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STO need a nemesis mode
jestersage
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I think I may have posted about this before, but anyway:
Kirk have Khan. Picard have Shinzon. Sisko have Dukat. Janeway have Borg Queen.
We seriously need to have them introduce a Nemesis mode into STO, aka "design your own villian". This may actually give us something interesting to play.
Kirk have Khan. Picard have Shinzon. Sisko have Dukat. Janeway have Borg Queen.
We seriously need to have them introduce a Nemesis mode into STO, aka "design your own villian". This may actually give us something interesting to play.
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Kirk had old age
The mechanic works in Champions.
The only problem is how do you keep it from becoming too generic? You can give people lots of options, but it still might become repetitive. IDK, I've never spend enough time in Champions to see it in action.
It's Star Trek, Villains are always generic.... they're always go crazy, or have an obsession in a crazy way.
If they did a Mirror Universe mission, then why not have the costume of the villain a modified version of your own? Copy head and body diameters, add some nasty scaring and a generic Mirror uniform and away you go!
They could use the same mechanic for a proper time travel story, only with the future you coming to assist! :O
Then have a humourous Klingon version in which the Mirror you is a woman! :]
Episode Four - Head Of A Needle Episode Five: The Duality of Men Episode Six - Redemption Earned
Episode Seven - Shattered Universe Episode Eight - The Gepetto Condition Episode Nine - One Room, Two Officers
Episode Ten - Beyond The Farthest Star Episode Eleven - It's OK, It Won't Hurt Episode Twelve - A Protracted Officer
Episode Thirteen - Somewhen Episode Fourteen - The Boy Who Lived Episode Fifthteen - Empathy
Picard also had Tomalak, one of my favorite nemesis.
Picard had Earl Grey tea
Sisko had...himself
and
Kirk had a beer belly
hehehe Not bad.
You forgot that Janeway had coffee! :P
DOH!!!! *Facepalm*
Besides; the Nemesis system in champions is only good in its basic idea. The undead archmage/lich type Nemesis and his horde of zombie minions I created for my hero ended up in a anticlimatic fight in a high tec villain base with plans to use nukes or orbital laser strikes or something like that.
Before something like that system gets converted to STO it need some serious additions/overhaul.
- Motivation: How did the Nemesis became the Nemesis? Revenge for somebody lost because of the hero? Obsession with the hero? Let the Nemesis act accordingly.
- Villainstyle = Missionstyle: Above example with the mage and the nukes is silly. Let this stlye dabble in all stuff arcane/mysterious. In STO terms I imagine this could be a tad easier because all are in a scifi enviorment already. But even there the Nemesis missions could differ between a brute force type and a brainy type.
Without these points worked out: No thanks to STO Nemesis.
As a Nemesis I would rather vote for the rebellious "Make it yourself" coffee replicator
Tho, would like to add Combining the Nem System with the Foundry would in theory work very well
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"******* challenges you to a battle!"
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Couple of things though. Firstly, the level of harassment would need toned down a little; I once made the mistake of making my Nemesis a low priority while I got on with some other stuff, and ended up getting jumped by goons every time I turned around (they really don't like being ignored). Secondly, as noted by others, there would really need to be stories that make sense for each type of Nemesis it possible to have.
We could also do with more generic NPC ships (and some customisation of those ships), so that a Nemesis that did not belong to one of the major powers could be made appropriately distinctive.
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Indeed, and sign me up for seeing mirror counterpart nemeses also. I wouldn't mind even seeing an entire feature series based around meeting and overcoming your mirror counterpart. A nemesis system would have to be much, much more story-focused than previous storyline or random-gen missions would have to be, though.
And, Kirk's nemesis was "bridge". The nemesis of Janeway and Archer both was Brannon Braga.
Spock's Brain.
But you get to pick their abilities and minions, and you create their look with the character creator.
The fights are fun, and the nemesis shows up in several big missions at key points.
It's personal, and it's different and I'd really love to see it here.
You could commission somebody else to make a nemesis mission for you in the Foundry, but mission slots are limited and this probably wouldn't be sustainable either.
So, yeah, I think it's a great idea that's been expressed before. Keep bringing it up every so often and maybe Cryptic will eventually get around to it.
I imagine that the parameters would have to be a bit more defined for STO, though.
1. Pick your Nemesis group (one of 12, per faction).
Feds/Fed Ally: Klingon, Orion Syndicate, Nausicaan Pirate, Tal Shiar, Hirogen, Dominion, Undine, Terran Empire, True Way, Maquis, Breen, Tholian
KDF/KDF Ally: Starfleet, Rival Klingon, Gorn Separatists, Nausicaan Pirate, Tal Shiar, Hirogen, Dominion, Undine, True Way, Fek'ihri, Breen, Tholian
Left Borg off the lists because, let's face it, most of them have no personality to speak of and don't hold grudges. Some of the enemy groups would be common to both sides.
2. Design Nemesis leader, leader's ship
You'd have to choose your options based on those available for that enemy group. Some races wouldn't be customizable (Breen, Tholian). You would not be able to set the name or appearance of any NPC or ship other than that of the leader. All "minions" would conform to the normal spawns of that group.
You could share your Nemesis designs with other players, so they could have the same Nemesis.
3. Nemesis appearance would be tied to missions where that enemy group might appear. Would require rework for some encounters to make possible.
I would envision it as an optional "pop up" encounter that happens at the end of certain missions where the nemesis appears to taunt the player and gives the player a chance to leave (beam out/warp out) or fight.
4. A set of generic Nemesis missions that would be tailored to that enemy group (though most of them would probably be quite similar) and available to run at level 40-ish and above.
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can think of it now, would be fun!
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
The devs could add a "nemesis encounter" spot into future storyline content, have them randomly pop up during exploration missions, etc.
Throw in Section 31 / Klingon Intelligence and you have yourself a deal.
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That would be fun having your own alts be the bad guy. the only problem would be they would come off generic sounding and not like how you would want them to act. For example my Gorn sci captain would never waste time on an evil master mind speech unless he was stalling for some reason.
I asked this as my question in several ask cryptic Q & A's. It never got a response. CO has a nemesis system. It would be a cool addition to the game. I mean, imagine flying through sector space and being surprise attacked by the forces of your nemesis. Imagine facing off with your nemesis one on one. How would any of that be bad for STO?