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Iconian End Plan Speculation
gavinruneblade
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So, I was playing a foundry mission, and that got me looking at some old voyager episodes, which got me thinking, if the Iconians tossed around a bunch of omega molecules, isn't that pretty much game over they win?
This assumption is based on how it appears other people can use their gates but no one else can make them.
Also, it assumes their gates don't use subspace, and that wherever they are they have enough infrastructure to do something when no one else can leave the systems they happen to be in.
This assumption is based on how it appears other people can use their gates but no one else can make them.
Also, it assumes their gates don't use subspace, and that wherever they are they have enough infrastructure to do something when no one else can leave the systems they happen to be in.
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Omega is not something to be taken lightly. It could easily backfire on the Iconians.
In regards to making the gates... its like the Stargates in... well... Stargate. The tech is currently beyond anything the Alpha Quadrant powers are capable of. Maybe in the 29th Century they're coming close, but early 25th? Its still too advanced to recreate without someone pulling the strings. And I believe current standing orders for the galaxy is to destroy Iconian gates to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, considering the track record of destroyed gates ala Starfleet.
No... the Iconians best bet is make everyone fight each other (which is basically what's happening already in game), then strike when the Alpha Quadrant powers are at their weakest. The only real hitch in the plan I see is the Borg. They're a wild card. The Iconians don't have a hand in their actions, and we have seen how Starfleet and the KDF are willing to set asside their differences to combat a common enemy. Unless the Iconians do something to try and counter that, Technological advantage or not, they will have a serious fight on thier hands.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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So no reason to assume slipstream would necessarily work either. Not counting the Voltaire solution.
I imagine assimilating one or two iconians would result in a big borg fleet heading off over to wherever they've been hiding. Would be interesting to see.
Both generate a deflector field in front of the ship which alters the curvature of space and creates a tunnel through subspace. Borg transwarp is generated by a tachyon pulse, where as the quantum slipstream actually alters the quantum structure of the vessel itself.
Both use subspace, so detonation of Omega molecules which destroys subspace would render both as well as conventional warp drive inert.
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I just figured out why the Tkon Empire disappeared 600,000 years ago! :eek:
Unify the galaxy and lets go brap up the Iconians.
Anyone want to take bets on where they hiding?
Dark Space?
Another Realm of existence?
Under water somewhere?
Earth....their leader is a computer program created by aliens, and use a child like avatar as their voice.
If the fans decide that the writing team will never resolve its plots, then they will probably stop following the work.
What would you like to do...
A) Destroy all Cybernetic lifeforms ? (might not even effect the Iconians)
c) Blow up the Iconians
d) reject the above three options and let the Iconians win.
Wouldn't that be called star effect.
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...and continue to grind ISE.
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ROFL, I was planning to make a mission where they did just that.
I guess it's true: I really don't have any original ideas. :P
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
I should write STO's plot! :P lol
Episode Four - Head Of A Needle Episode Five: The Duality of Men Episode Six - Redemption Earned
Episode Seven - Shattered Universe Episode Eight - The Gepetto Condition Episode Nine - One Room, Two Officers
Episode Ten - Beyond The Farthest Star Episode Eleven - It's OK, It Won't Hurt Episode Twelve - A Protracted Officer
Episode Thirteen - Somewhen Episode Fourteen - The Boy Who Lived Episode Fifthteen - Empathy
But that does not mean that they don't have a plan ... .
Sadly their plan seems to involve keeping us trapped in 2409 for ever and bore us to death via The Grind .
Perhaps they want to keep you alive so they can manipulate you further. Remember, Starfleet/the KDF considers your ship and crew valuable assets.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
The Iconians already made use of the Borg by sending them back in time onto the Saratoga during the batte of Wolf 359.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Non-canon. STO doesn't have to follow that story if the Devs don't want to.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
And... the Vesta and Luna classes were accepted into canon, and they only appeared in books.
No, you read it for entertainment. Which is really all the reason one should need.
They were?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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I give you: Unicron the chaos bringer!
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Don't forget how long it took Cryptic to get the Vesta in game.
common misconception is that we think as aliens do, but we cant even predict fully what a pet would do, so that assumption is faulty in the same way as to how the iconians lived and existed but we couldnt comprehend their actions. the gateways were speculated to be a "doorway" an instantaneous transporter device meant for war by placing thousand if not millions of troops on other worlds before anyone could react. but the iconians were wiped out by another race, probably more powerful then they were.
it stands to reason that if there is direct evidence that the iconians are fighting in this conflict on their ships and they intend to return to take their territory back, again as speculated, then predictably the plan would be to find more evidence of this other "power" that existed the same time and get them to join in the fight or locate technology that can deal with iconians ship technology or go on a galaxy wide quest to activate an ancient superweapon long abandoned, hook up a power source while fiighting off hordes of iconian ships and then set the damned thing off.
the current galactic powers are utterly hopeless in the technology department as it stands, so clearly these iconians if they return have their own plan, im sure cryptic will make it as interesting as possible with their shadow play on the romulans.
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It is a peculiar phenomenon that we can imagine events that defy the laws of the universe.
Granted, Omega didn't exist (as far as we know) until recently, at least there's no big widespread rips in subspace locking out chunks of the galaxy from warp travel. Which means there's a real possibility they've never heard of it and don't know it exists.
So far everything I've read says they were wiped out by a slave rebellion.
Yup, my biggest argument against my own thought is that it's too similar to stargate. But it would be suitably epic in scope by making a threat that could realistically end all inter-system civilization (individual planets would still be ok).