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Legacy of Romulus - Bad Guys

rickysmith1rickysmith1 Member Posts: 610 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
New Post:
OK, now I have played LoR, I freely admit I was not only wrong but very wrong about who it was.
It is the enemies from the Star Trek Enterprise episode called; Elachi.
Other names include the 'Shroomies' and if you have played the missions you will notice the link with the mysterious species known as; Solangen based lifeforms.




Original Post:
Ok I'll keep it short and to the point.

I think this; New Bad Guy.
Is actually the future (2409) variant of this race (2150); Unknown Bad Guys.

Those 'Bad Guys' are from the Star Trek Enterprise episode; Fight or Flight.

I have three general reasons for this theory.

1) The obvious similaritys between the 22nd and 25th Century Variants like comparing a Galaxy class starship to a Constitution Class.

2) If you use your logic, you can more or less trace the NX-01's journey and sum it to be heading towards Romulan space; (Minefield).

3) *Spoiler* If you play the Demo on Tribble, you will witness your characters colony being attacked with the people being harvested. In the episode Fight or Flight, this unknown race harvested what is essentially the fat in the bodies of other races.

What do you think?


This is one Alternate yet connected theory worth noting:
abaddon653 wrote: »
Actually the most likely theory at this point is that the new baddies are the "Shroomies" from the Ent episode Silent Enemy. The new guys are also referred to in game as the "Silent Enemy" and respond to your hails in the same way the shroomies do.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_non-humanoids_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species Scroll on down to see the "Shroomies"

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Alpha_and_Beta_Quadrant_starships_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species aaaand again scroll down to see the shroomie ship.

Of course it is entirely possible that the Triglobulin and Shroomie aliens are one in the same but the ships don't look at all similar. Also the ship which descends over your colony and over a few others looks very much like the "Shroomie" ship.

I love that word "Shroomie"
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  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    rickysmith1 wrote: »
    Ok I'll keep it short and to the point.

    I think this; New Bad Guy.
    Is actually the future (2409) variant of this race (2150); Unknown Bad Guys.

    Those 'Bad Guys' are from the Star Trek Enterprise episode; Fight or Flight.

    I have three general reasons for this theory.

    1) The obvious similaritys between the 22nd and 25th Century Variants like comparing a Galaxy class starship to a Constitution Class.

    2) If you use your logic, you can more or less trace the NX-01's journey and sum it to be heading towards Romulan space; (Minefield).

    3) *Spoiler* If you play the Demo on Tribble, you will witness your characters colony being attacked with the people being harvested. In the episode Fight or Flight, this unknown race harvested what is essentially the fat in the bodies of other races.

    What do you think?

    I thought this also. got the feeling enterprise has been a heavy influence on the dev team so I think you could be right :)
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    got the feeling enterprise has been a heavy influence on the dev team
    That's some bad influence...

    As for the theory though, the aliens are supposedly canon in some way, so... could be.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Well it's not new that people pointed out these are the unknown aliens from Enterprise. But the way Cryptic added the greenish lights makes me think of them having somekind of Borg connection as well.

    Too bad they aren't the Fen Domar, they should be in the space somewhere between Romulan Territory and the Delta Quadrant border.
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Actually the most likely theory at this point is that the new baddies are the "Shroomies" from the Ent episode Silent Enemy. The new guys are also referred to in game as the "Silent Enemy" and respond to your hails in the same way the shroomies do.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_non-humanoids_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species Scroll on down to see the "Shroomies"

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Alpha_and_Beta_Quadrant_starships_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species aaaand again scroll down to see the shroomie ship.

    Of course it is entirely possible that the Triglobulin and Shroomie aliens are one in the same but the ships don't look at all similar. Also the ship which descends over your colony and over a few others looks very much like the "Shroomie" ship.

    I love that word "Shroomie"
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Actually the most likely theory at this point is that the new baddies are the "Shroomies" from the Ent episode Silent Enemy. The new guys are also referred to in game as the "Silent Enemy" and respond to your hails in the same way the shroomies do.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_non-humanoids_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species Scroll on down to see the "Shroomies"

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Alpha_and_Beta_Quadrant_starships_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species aaaand again scroll down to see the shroomie ship.

    Of course it is entirely possible that the Triglobulin and Shroomie aliens are one in the same but the ships don't look at all similar. Also the ship which descends over your colony and over a few others looks very much like the "Shroomie" ship.

    I love that word "Shroomie"

    The Aliens mentioned in the post quoted also seem alot more likely to me... Design and behavior are all pretty much the same.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You're all wrong clearly it's Martians with Tripod technology.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    suaveks wrote: »
    That's some bad influence...

    As for the theory though, the aliens are supposedly canon in some way, so... could be.

    Not in the slightest. I'm very happy that the devs are getting some ideas and designs from ENT. I hope we see much more from ENT, there's a whole lot of potential.
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    You're all wrong clearly it's Martians with Tripod technology.

    Well if its Martians we already have the ultimate weapon to defeat them.....BEHOLD!!!!

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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Damnabits. I was hoping they would be the Hur'q. :(
  • rickysmith1rickysmith1 Member Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Actually the most likely theory at this point is that the new baddies are the "Shroomies" from the Ent episode Silent Enemy. The new guys are also referred to in game as the "Silent Enemy" and respond to your hails in the same way the shroomies do.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_non-humanoids_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species Scroll on down to see the "Shroomies"

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Alpha_and_Beta_Quadrant_starships_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species aaaand again scroll down to see the shroomie ship.

    Of course it is entirely possible that the Triglobulin and Shroomie aliens are one in the same but the ships don't look at all similar. Also the ship which descends over your colony and over a few others looks very much like the "Shroomie" ship.

    I love that word "Shroomie"

    Very true, I will add that point to the Blog Entry :)
    centersolace wrote: »
    Damnabits. I was hoping they would be the Hur'q. :(

    I think they are saving that for the Klingons and the Iconians for the Federation.
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  • morkargh117morkargh117 Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    abaddon653 wrote: »
    Actually the most likely theory at this point is that the new baddies are the "Shroomies" from the Ent episode Silent Enemy. The new guys are also referred to in game as the "Silent Enemy" and respond to your hails in the same way the shroomies do.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_non-humanoids_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species Scroll on down to see the "Shroomies"

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Unnamed_Alpha_and_Beta_Quadrant_starships_%2822nd_century%29#Unnamed_Species aaaand again scroll down to see the shroomie ship.

    Of course it is entirely possible that the Triglobulin and Shroomie aliens are one in the same but the ships don't look at all similar. Also the ship which descends over your colony and over a few others looks very much like the "Shroomie" ship.

    I love that word "Shroomie"

    I hope that is the case, they look interesting. And I would like an excuse to use the word Shroomie lol.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    romulans are pretty similar to vulcans as vulcans are similar to other humanoids, requiring something similar to lymphatic fluid or triglobulin or something similar to both, thats what the unknown aliens are after, not the fat content in romulan bodies :D. based in part of what phlox stated when enterprise was scanned by these unknowns that "we have all been scanned" suggesting that denobulans, humans and vulcans are all likely candidates for this, so romulans are not far off and since klingons share a genetic history with the romulans, they also possess this as well.
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    morkargh117 wrote: »
    I hope that is the case, they look interesting. And I would like an excuse to use the word Shroomie lol.

    See everyone likes the word Shroomie.
  • voxialicvoxialic Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    rickysmith1 wrote: »
    Ok I'll keep it short and to the point.

    I think this; New Bad Guy.
    Is actually the future (2409) variant of this race (2150); Unknown Bad Guys.

    Those 'Bad Guys' are from the Star Trek Enterprise episode; Fight or Flight.

    I have three general reasons for this theory.

    1) The obvious similaritys between the 22nd and 25th Century Variants like comparing a Galaxy class starship to a Constitution Class.

    2) If you use your logic, you can more or less trace the NX-01's journey and sum it to be heading towards Romulan space; (Minefield).

    3) *Spoiler* If you play the Demo on Tribble, you will witness your characters colony being attacked with the people being harvested. In the episode Fight or Flight, this unknown race harvested what is essentially the fat in the bodies of other races.

    What do you think?


    This is one Alternate yet connected theory worth noting:


    I believe it's already been established that you're fighting the Silent Enemy from the Enterprise episode "Silent Enemy." The original preview for LoR referred to fighting a "silent enemy" and the way they communicate is by looping back audio of the person they're communicating, same as in the TV series.

    As to WHY you're fighting them, or they're fighting you, that doesn't get established until later on.
  • aeolusdallasaeolusdallas Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    romulans are pretty similar to vulcans as vulcans are similar to other humanoids, requiring something similar to lymphatic fluid or triglobulin or something similar to both, thats what the unknown aliens are after, not the fat content in romulan bodies :D. based in part of what phlox stated when enterprise was scanned by these unknowns that "we have all been scanned" suggesting that denobulans, humans and vulcans are all likely candidates for this, so romulans are not far off and since klingons share a genetic history with the romulans, they also possess this as well.

    Romulans are not just similar to Vulcans. They are Vulcan's. Just a different nation of them....
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Who says the Shrooms can't be the Hur'Q who says the fek'lar horde the KDF faced were modified Romulans Sent by the Hur'Q. Think outside the box.
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Who says the Shrooms can't be the Hur'Q who says the fek'lar horde the KDF faced we're not modified Romulans Sent by the Hur'Q. Think outside the box.

    Arrghh my brain!!!!
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited April 2013
    Aliens!!!!
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    rickysmith1 wrote: »
    I think they are saving that for the Klingons and the Iconians for the Federation.

    Why do you think I was hoping for the Hur'q? (Klingon focused content that everyone can enjoy~)

    But seriously. I really want something like their ships in ST: Invasion when they get put in.
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Aliens!!!!

    Helpful. Isn't everyone an Alien in Star Trek? :P
  • rickysmith1rickysmith1 Member Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OK, now I have played LoR, I freely admit I was not only wrong but very wrong about who it was.
    It is the enemies from the Star Trek Enterprise episode called; Elachi.
    Other names include the 'Shroomies' and if you have played the missions you will notice the link with the mysterious species known as; Solangen based lifeforms.
    STAR TREK CONTINUES
    Episode One - A Single Moment Episode Two - Infancy Episode Three - Unto the Breach
    Episode Four - Head Of A Needle Episode Five: The Duality of Men Episode Six - Redemption Earned
    Episode Seven - Shattered Universe Episode Eight - The Gepetto Condition Episode Nine - One Room, Two Officers
    Episode Ten - Beyond The Farthest Star Episode Eleven - It's OK, It Won't Hurt Episode Twelve - A Protracted Officer
    Episode Thirteen - Somewhen Episode Fourteen - The Boy Who Lived Episode Fifthteen - Empathy
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,236 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    rickysmith1 wrote: »
    OK, now I have played LoR, I freely admit I was not only wrong but very wrong about who it was.
    It is the enemies from the Star Trek Enterprise episode called; Elachi.
    Other names include the 'Shroomies' and if you have played the missions you will notice the link with the mysterious species known as; Solangen based lifeforms.

    episode was called : "Silent Enemy"

    Sto named them as the "Elachi"
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  • pompoulusspompouluss Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I was skeptical but they're pretty much a dead ringer.

    Good catch!
  • rickysmith1rickysmith1 Member Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thay8472 wrote: »
    episode was called : "Silent Enemy"

    Sto named them as the "Elachi"

    Thats what I meant :rolleyes:
    STAR TREK CONTINUES
    Episode One - A Single Moment Episode Two - Infancy Episode Three - Unto the Breach
    Episode Four - Head Of A Needle Episode Five: The Duality of Men Episode Six - Redemption Earned
    Episode Seven - Shattered Universe Episode Eight - The Gepetto Condition Episode Nine - One Room, Two Officers
    Episode Ten - Beyond The Farthest Star Episode Eleven - It's OK, It Won't Hurt Episode Twelve - A Protracted Officer
    Episode Thirteen - Somewhen Episode Fourteen - The Boy Who Lived Episode Fifthteen - Empathy
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