"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Its been my experience that evil can be quite sexy... this screams teenage pubescence, zits and all! :rolleyes:
"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa (2006)
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
Something I wrote to the reaction of the Vengeance:
I look at it this way. The prime universe got along fine with Starfleet and the Federation basically being the top dog in terms of ship design and technology up until the Dominion War. In this alternate universe, the introduction of the Narada changed Starfleet'ss main principal of being just the military branch of the federation to a full on peace keeping force always on the lookout for any potential threats. Thus the increase in size and armaments of their vessels. After the destruction of 7 ships along with one of the core worlds of the Federation, more resources were put into the development of dreadnaught size ships that could handle the threat of the Narada or any other similar vessel to enter federation space.
The more I look at this ship, the more I like it. It looks exactly like what would happen if 23rd-Century Starfleet tried to build a Borg ship, which is perfect for this timeline.
It doesn't really look ugly. It just looks mean.
The neck area is a little busy, being packed full of exotic weaponry (besides the aforementioned rotary phaser cannons *squeee* I think I see a spinal phaser lance in there as well) but the saucer and nacelles look simply awesome.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
I like it, there'll be no mistaking that ship for one of the good guys.
I'm inclined to think this is a Klingon/Federation hybrid design, it has a lot of elements that look Klingon.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
Guys, there is no 'one' mold for how evil looks. There's ugly evil, sexy evil, and so on...
Now, what kind of evil it looks like to you is your own business. I personally think it looks cool, as I like a wide variety of different ship aesthetics Including this one
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
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That ship's almost as ugly the the Odyssey.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-- Spock
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
-- Sulu
Probably would sell out to the people who want a drednaught that works like an actual drednaught.
[geek mode] SQUEEEEEEE!!! Do want! [/geek mode]
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
It's like someone blended the Envoy, the Legoprise, and the Imperial into one sucktacular combo, and then decided they needed to make it uglier.
Yep! Looks like what would happen if someone try to equip Hillbilly Armor on a Federation Starship.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Its been my experience that evil can be quite sexy... this screams teenage pubescence, zits and all! :rolleyes:
Feh. Evil is much more fun when it's sexy-evil.
But there are always silver linings. At least it makes the Odyssey look less horrible by comparison.
http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/23/exclusive-hi-res-image-of-uss-vengeance-from-star-trek-into-darkness/
Especially when Benedict Cumberbatch is in command.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
in Kingdom Hearts. Using gummi blocks. Eeesh.
I look at it this way. The prime universe got along fine with Starfleet and the Federation basically being the top dog in terms of ship design and technology up until the Dominion War. In this alternate universe, the introduction of the Narada changed Starfleet'ss main principal of being just the military branch of the federation to a full on peace keeping force always on the lookout for any potential threats. Thus the increase in size and armaments of their vessels. After the destruction of 7 ships along with one of the core worlds of the Federation, more resources were put into the development of dreadnaught size ships that could handle the threat of the Narada or any other similar vessel to enter federation space.
It doesn't really look ugly. It just looks mean.
The neck area is a little busy, being packed full of exotic weaponry (besides the aforementioned rotary phaser cannons *squeee* I think I see a spinal phaser lance in there as well) but the saucer and nacelles look simply awesome.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
I'm inclined to think this is a Klingon/Federation hybrid design, it has a lot of elements that look Klingon.
Now, what kind of evil it looks like to you is your own business. I personally think it looks cool, as I like a wide variety of different ship aesthetics Including this one
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
pardon me while I geek out :cool: