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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    I know that and of course it's very user friendly... :rolleyes:
    You don't even have to finish the mission. Just start the last chapter of the Dominion FE series and proceed far enough to get the suit, then you can drop the mission and keep the suit.

    Currently, the Nukara suits are dirt cheap on exchange. I suspect their price will rise, not sure how much though. the scrap value of those items is pitiful....

    That's a good question...

    to Gorngonzolla: will there be a change to the scrap value of Nukara EV suits? Currently they have a list price of around 600 ec, this is much lower than Mk11 armors. Regular armor typically goes for a few thousand.
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    Wait, you're removing free gear AGAIN? :mad:

    Seriously, this is completely ridiculous. Why are you removing the tholian reward boxes with weapons and EV suit? Can't you build new content for once?

    If all you can do is revamping old content to remove free gear to put it behind paygates, don't call that an update.

    and it is not like those Antiproton pistols with [SONIC] mods would be worth a damn outside of Nukara itself... just as obsolete as the [BORG] mod if you ask me. If we would get revamped Antiproton Gear... with new visuals like they did with the Fleet and Romulan weapons... and get rid of that SONIC Mod and add equivalents to the Elite Fleet Gear... then... ok that would be kind of worth it since there are only Advanced Fleet Weapons for Antiproton otherwise...
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  • voxinvictusvoxinvictus Member Posts: 261
    edited April 2013
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    coupaholic wrote: »
    Well the idea sounds great. Looks like plenty of kit to buy, even though most of it is recycled stuff we can get now, but this doesn't bother me.

    What does is that I see a distinct lack of explanation as to how we earn these marks outside Nukara and certain Romulan Mark missions like Azura - which means I get the impression that content wise there will be no new missions.

    I am disappointed, I was hoping for STF style Tholian missions to go along with the rep system.

    It doesn't sound like they plan to do any new stfs before season 8 and maybe not even then. For some reason they like ground zones more than players do and stfs less.
  • polie05polie05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Cut the TRIBBLE Cryptic. We spent REAL F'ing money here for that gear. Give us 500 marks per piece that mk 12.
  • guriphuguriphu Member Posts: 494 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I agree, either give us the option to turn our mk12 stuff back into Lobi or give us something significant for having paid money for them.

    You gave people the option to refund their Andorian phasers, why not let us refund our mk12 Nukara stuff?
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The Lobi Store reward ?Tholian Ground Set ? Crystalline Nanofiber Augmentations? will no longer be available. This upgrade pack would convert the levelless Tholian Ground set into a Mk XII version.
    Players who purchased this upgrade pack can ?register? each piece for 50 Nukara Marks and will also receive the item back.

    Just wanna be sure. This "item" we are getting back will still be the mk xii version, right?
  • captainmal3captainmal3 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    polie05 wrote: »
    Cut the TRIBBLE Cryptic. We spent REAL F'ing money here for that gear. Give us 500 marks per piece that mk 12.

    Yeah, so did I, and we both get to keep it. Seriously, people don't seem to be getting this.

    YOU ARE GETTING FREE STUFF.

    Get it now?


    I'm sorry if that seems a bit harsh, but the ridiculous sense of entitlement in this thread baffles me.
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    I know that and of course it's very user friendly... :rolleyes:

    I wouldn't know anything about "user friendly", but the suits there are only good to survive the enviromental conditions. If you find yourself in a situation where you NEED armor, you can't wear it because it'll mean you can't survive the temperature.

    So yeah, time to get Nukara EV suits on any character that doesn't have them...

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  • picardcrusherpicardcrusher Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Why is everything bind on acquire? Why create so many problems for people with multiple characters?

    Surely the fact the game has so many interesting combinations should be encouraged as a way to counterbalance the demand for more content. Is the time I spend grinding worth less than what other people put in? If I earn an item with one character, why can't I give it to another if I discover it suits that one better, like for example when the devs change the rules yet again.

    Another reputation system... all it means is that my characters are doomed to permanent obsolescence. So why have more than one faction if you are going to force me to play only one character? Introducing another reputation system along with another faction is pointless. :mad:

    Nerfing is Fraud...
  • polie05polie05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yeah, so did I, and we both get to keep it. Seriously, people don't seem to be getting this.

    YOU ARE GETTING FREE STUFF.

    Get it now?


    I'm sorry if that seems a bit harsh, but the ridiculous sense of entitlement in this thread baffles me.

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    We paid ACTUAL money for it and YOU receive it for nothing basically. We demand better compensation.

    Cryptic DOES owe us more than the 150 marks for 150 lobi we spent. Heck lets us trade it in for just the lobi back so I can buy something else.
  • captainmal3captainmal3 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You do realise I paid the 150 lobi too, right? And yet, somehow, I'm not whining and moaning that suddenly I'm not a special snowflake and demanding compensation that I have no right to. You paid the 150 lobi, you got the gear, end of story. Now they're giving you free stuff for nothing and you're demanding more.
  • lyanaarlyanaar Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I would like to know if we can use our Boffs like on new Romulus? Defera would be the same question...

    cheers
  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    As I saved Nukeria Prime for a rainny day, this reputation will fire me up to go there ! :)
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  • captaind3captaind3 Member Posts: 2,449 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    reximuz wrote: »
    The only thing that could make this better would be a equipment slot for Captains and their BOFFs for the environment suits so I don't have to carry them around.
    YES.

    Swapping them out constantly is annoying and robs the other sets of their abilities.

    Though I can see reasons why they wouldn't ;)
    diogene0 wrote: »
    Any plans to give an easy access to very cheap ev suits (like 1 dil or 100 ec like the ones from the current boxes we can find on the exchange)? We need 4 to play the T4/T5 romulan reputation mission, and I don't want to spend like 20k dil to play episodes... I think many players will also need new EV suits for their romulan chars, so cheap EV suits are really important just to play your content.
    That's a good point. And storing five EV suits is a little bit of a pain. I keep them in my account bank myself. At least then they're never further away than my Ready Room.

    But an EV suit is standard equipment on every single starship since Archer left dock.

    It's weird that we have to purchase them from other vendors. I can understand a top notch Very Rare one, but there should be a standard mk1 that we can slot over armor at least.
    zerobang wrote: »
    and it is not like those Antiproton pistols with [SONIC] mods would be worth a damn outside of Nukara itself... just as obsolete as the [BORG] mod if you ask me. If we would get revamped Antiproton Gear... with new visuals like they did with the Fleet and Romulan weapons... and get rid of that SONIC Mod and add equivalents to the Elite Fleet Gear... then... ok that would be kind of worth it since there are only Advanced Fleet Weapons for Antiproton otherwise...

    You know. It would be highly logical if the sonic weapons inflicted disorientation or something to humanoids, or outright stunned Romulans and Vulcans with their super sensitive hearing.
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  • mattimeo97mattimeo97 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    polie05 wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~syberghost
    We paid ACTUAL money for it and YOU receive it for nothing basically. We demand better compensation.

    Cryptic DOES owe us more than the 150 marks for 150 lobi we spent. Heck lets us trade it in for just the lobi back so I can buy something else.

    So... You (and the mysterious 'we') let Cryptic sucker you into paying real money for keys so you could get Lobi, and now you're under the impression that you're owed something more?

    Gotcha.

    Here's a thought: Quit paying real money for keys. Go grind some Dils or some EC, and get your keys that way. It will significantly reduce your butthurt, since you won't have paid real money for virtual items.

    A fool and his money are soon parted, as everyone can see here.
  • polie05polie05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    $40 in keys is nothing to me, but the fact is the exchange rate of 150 marks to 150 lobi in not right, it should be 10 to 1 conversion.
  • exa12exa12 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    Any plans to give an easy access to very cheap ev suits (like 1 dil or 100 ec like the ones from the current boxes we can find on the exchange)? We need 4 to play the T4/T5 romulan reputation mission, and I don't want to spend like 20k dil to play episodes... I think many players will also need new EV suits for their romulan chars, so cheap EV suits are really important just to play your content.

    there are 100 dil ones in the special items bit of the dil store, same as the ones from Boldly They Rode, just named 'pre-owned'


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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    zerobang wrote: »
    and it is not like those Antiproton pistols with [SONIC] mods would be worth a damn outside of Nukara itself... just as obsolete as the [BORG] mod if you ask me. If we would get revamped Antiproton Gear... with new visuals like they did with the Fleet and Romulan weapons... and get rid of that SONIC Mod and add equivalents to the Elite Fleet Gear... then... ok that would be kind of worth it since there are only Advanced Fleet Weapons for Antiproton otherwise...

    Yes those weapons weren't awesome at all. Just ok to equip boffs with. Armors were useful too, for the same reason. Now all this junk is going to be hidden behind unlocks and dilithium. And there is no EV suit drops. I wouldn't mind this change if such a feature existed but currently it's not the case, and this isn't alt friendly at all.

    I won't really miss the TRIBBLE from those boxes, even if i don't like seeing free gear going away (like the STF store just 6 months ago), I just think it's not alt friendly at all, because free gear helps alts a lot, especially if you don't intend to play it every day, and it makes the game even more painful for alts. With the upcoming expansion this isn't a good sign. Cryptic makes alts a pain but still wants us to level up some more in may. Stupid.
    exa12 wrote: »
    there are 100 dil ones in the special items bit of the dil store, same as the ones from Boldly They Rode, just named 'pre-owned'

    100 dil is still too much dil to equip boffs. And 100 dil for something we'd consider as vendor trash if there were EV suit drops is laughable. :rolleyes:
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  • tsurutafan01tsurutafan01 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This could be easily rectified by adding an EV Suit option to crafting. Even the worst kind available is sufficient for mining if that's all you want it for, or for that one New Romulus mission where the BOFFS need suits.


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  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    polie05 wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~syberghost

    We paid ACTUAL money for it and YOU receive it for nothing basically. We demand better compensation.

    Cryptic DOES owe us more than the 150 marks for 150 lobi we spent. Heck lets us trade it in for just the lobi back so I can buy something else.

    Your actual money let you have it earlier. Like a time gate privilage.
    Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
  • messahlamessahla Member Posts: 1,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Anyone know when its gonna be 2410?

    Or is this an STO version of groundhogs day :eek:
  • captpeacemakercaptpeacemaker Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    GREAT! More grinds, and more marks.

    Ok so now we have...

    1. Omega Marks
    2. Romulan Marks
    3. Fleet Marks
    4. Dilithium
    5. Energy Credits
    6. Latinum

    and now we have...

    8. Nukara Marks

    Didn't we just go through a major currency consolidation to get rid of badges and marks? Now we are going right back down the same road.
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  • messahlamessahla Member Posts: 1,160 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    GREAT! More grinds, and more marks.

    Ok so now we have...

    1. Omega Marks
    2. Romulan Marks
    3. Fleet Marks
    4. Dilithium
    5. Energy Credits
    6. Latinum

    and now we have...

    8. Nukara Marks

    Didn't we just go through a major currency consolidation to get rid of badges and marks? Now we are going right back down the same road.

    Well that would fit right in with STO never leaving 2409 adding more currency after consolidation will lead to another consolidation later and then they will add more after that then wash rinse and repeat.
    That way it will be like starting the year 2409 all over again......that gave me a headache lol :D
  • captpeacemakercaptpeacemaker Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Someone needs to break us out of this time loop we seem to be stuck in...

    lets not make the same mistake... once.

    I forgot to add to my list...

    Fleet Credits
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  • derrico1derrico1 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Energy Credits and Latinum should be only $$$$$$$ in game.. in star trek they only used gold pressed latinum or traided goods.... they didnt use marks on the shows or in the movies
  • whoami4whoami4 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    When I get a romulan account I have to get Donatra's ship.
  • whoami4whoami4 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Join the U.E.F. Dynasty we are a family - friendly fleet that cares for all. And if u have a question and just started the game we will help u
  • whoami4whoami4 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Can romulans be in the same fleet as fed:confused:
  • whoami4whoami4 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Engineers are awesome but I made a mistake and picked tactical :(
  • whoami4whoami4 Member Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Klingons are awesome?
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