I am fine with it... STO needs this... It needs attention to the other factions.
AND I don't think we will be entirely without additions, since there seems to be at least one new rep system, and several nice upgrades that are system wide.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
It's not really that hard of a concept to understand.
(especially, if one hangs around MMO Forums)
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It's not really that hard of a concept to understand.
(especially, if one hangs around MMO Forums)
In a nutshell.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
yes there is a major focus on romulans, and a smaller focus on klingons but fed players will get something to do as well even if its just a FE series or an adventure zone.
yes there is a major focus on romulans, and a smaller focus on klingons but fed players will get something to do as well even if its just a FE series or an adventure zone.
Not to mention the new reputation system becuase honestly who really thinks only one or two of the factions would be the only ones to get it?
There is also the fact that new enemies are being introduced and depending on who they are and what their doing the feds may also have to deal with them.
Plus I don't see how the federation would be left out of the story of Sela's return.
yes there is a major focus on romulans, and a smaller focus on klingons but fed players will get something to do as well even if its just a FE series or a boring grind zone.
There, fixed that for you.
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Pah, good riddance to constant breast feeding of Federation content in public.
Only thing those illiterate youths deserve is half a pound of gravel from Boothby's shovel!
And don't even get me started on those ridiculous looking blue moon people.
I am fine with it... STO needs this... It needs attention to the other factions.
AND I don't think we will be entirely without additions, since there seems to be at least one new rep system, and several nice upgrades that are system wide.
Agreed, I see no reason to be upset about anything in the new expansion. It's good for everyone not just Romulans.
LOL I haven't seen any complaints personally about Fed complaining, but what I've seen in the past year, it wouldn't surprise me. PWE/Cryptic could fix ALL the bugs, provide everything everyone wanted, made equal amount of content and ships for all factions, and there will still be a bunch of people complaining.
Quote I found:
?Complaining does not work as a strategy. We all have finite time and energy. Any time we spend whining is unlikely to help us achieve our goals. And it won't make us happier.?
I am happy for the KDF people if they do in fact get a long, overdue, addition of content. I personally have one KDF character, but I stopped when I had to start going through the same missions from the FED side, that I have already done 7 times lol. I'm not a hardcore KDF person, but I truly do feel for you guys. That is some dedication to stay with a game that for the longest time, ignored an entire fan base while constantly expanding on the other.
That is some dedication to stay with a game that for the longest time, ignored an entire fan base while constantly expanding on the other.
Outside of shiny ships, which add nothing new to PvE game-play, what exactly is "constantly expanding" for the Fed players? As I have said before, doing an STF for the 100th time in a Kumari is not any more exciting than doing it in a free Escort you received at RA. All the new Ships and Uniforms in the world do not make up for the fact that there is very little new Mission Content to do - and every new piece of Mission Content the Feds get the KDF also get. So from a Mission perspective it is "constantly expanding" equally.
I would gladly give up ever new Fed ship from the last 2 years if it meant we would got a handful of new STFs or other end-game Missions.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Yea I'm pretty much talking about all the shiny stuff. From what I read when the Andorian ship was released, there was alot of upset KDF players, pretty much saying wtf.
But yea, your right, I should've been more specific instead of saying "constantly expanding".
I just hope that all three factions will get same amount of content in the future. That is the only way to balance it.
Well, that would be considerably easier than trying to give all factions the same amount of content now - that would require stopping any expansions of Fed content for what, about a year?, while creating much, much content for the KDF (preferably more missions that don't revolve around attacking Feddy outposts at low levels - are the Feds the only enemies the Klingons have? What about the Romulans or the Undine? The Feds see Undine a lot in their lower levels), and of course all the content for our new Rihannsu friends.
I've seen a couple of posts here and there in which players (Federation players) have been commenting / complaining that this latest update doesn't bring anything nice and new to the table for Federation players.
Could you link to these supposed posts, or better yet, just respond to them directly instead of creating a new thread to address a phantom audience?
Cryptic could make things real easy for themselves...
Simply take all current FED and KDF missions, and create <faction> angle on them.
As i see it, you could easily make 3 variants, or at least add pre-story and aftermath stories to each mission they currently have.
This would also motivate playing the missions on each faction, since you'd have to do it to get all angles on they story / get the entire story.
Maybe one of the best thoughts I've heard in a long time. Think about it minimal effort big payoff. More content for all though some missions would have to be moved as fed/klink/rom lower lvls couldn't get to the appropriate maps.
As far as I am aware, the main objective with the May Update is to focus on the Romulan Faction. That's obvious to everyone with half a brain now. There are also some updates to the Klingon faction that are underway too.
I've seen a couple of posts here and there in which players (Federation players) have been commenting / complaining that this latest update doesn't bring anything nice and new to the table for Federation players. To that, I'd say that you're right, though I'd also ask that you quit being so damned selfish.
Practically every release since launch has been Federation-focused. They've had more missions, more playable-species, more stories and many more ships than the Klingon faction has done. Now, for May, Cryptic (rightly so) are going to focus on the Romulans and Klingons, and you Federation players moan about it? Need I list exactly how much more you're already gotten over those playing as Klingon?
How about you guys take a step back and allow for the expansion of other factions for other players? You've had your toys, now it's time for everyone else to get theirs.
That is all.
Note: I say this primarily as a Federation player myself.
And the Federation will have the Tholian reputation and the STFS/missions that give Tholian marks too.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
The fact you are unwilling ti put up evidence the moment its requested is what troubles me, then again one thing I learned is many of KDF only posters do nothing but lie and exaggerate ... when they are not trying to steal from the Feds (like the Mirror uniform).
I'm sorry that you feel troubled, but as I've stated, I haven't got the time to go chasing through countless threads looking for some evidence to prove my post to you and a few select others.
Do you believe me? Probably not. Am I going to lose any sleep over it? Definitely not.
It's not really that hard of a concept to understand.
(especially, if one hangs around MMO Forums)
I agree...this is waste of a thread and this is STO not KDF online. I like KDF as well but whining gets nowhere. Be happy for the majority of the playerbase or is it the needs of the ONE outweight the needs of the many?
I feel that the Fed side is somewhat bloated with content, so I'm not actually unhappy about the Romulan update. In fact, I think I might replace my Fed sci with a Romulan one. It's not like I'm getting any mileage out of anyways. My only concern at this point has to do with the same old issues of balancing and all that...
I'm sorry that you feel troubled, but as I've stated, I haven't got the time to go chasing through countless threads looking for some evidence to prove my post to you and a few select others.
But certainly you have encountered some of those posts in the past couple of days right? Care to point some out?
What I find most disturbing about your assertion is, a thread like this ... the thread you created ... should have attracted these fed whiners. They should have pounced on the bait and fallen into your trap. Yet the feds seem mostly to not be unhappy about the Romulan faction or the So Big It's Not Season 8 Season.
I'm starting to worry that your assertion was incorrect. If only there were some anti-Romulan feds to show up and really tear into Romulan fans. Where are they when we need them most?
Look at how disappointing Eraserfish's post was:
I feel that the Fed side is somewhat bloated with content, so I'm not actually unhappy about the Romulan update.
Look at that fail! It's epic! He's not actually unhappy! What's wrong with these feds?
As far as I am aware, the main objective with the May Update is to focus on the Romulan Faction. That's obvious to everyone with half a brain now. There are also some updates to the Klingon faction that are underway too.
I've seen a couple of posts here and there in which players (Federation players) have been commenting / complaining that this latest update doesn't bring anything nice and new to the table for Federation players. To that, I'd say that you're right, though I'd also ask that you quit being so damned selfish.
Practically every release since launch has been Federation-focused. They've had more missions, more playable-species, more stories and many more ships than the Klingon faction has done. Now, for May, Cryptic (rightly so) are going to focus on the Romulans and Klingons, and you Federation players moan about it? Need I list exactly how much more you're already gotten over those playing as Klingon?
How about you guys take a step back and allow for the expansion of other factions for other players? You've had your toys, now it's time for everyone else to get theirs.
That is all.
Note: I say this primarily as a Federation player myself.
I know, man. Because, Kirk forbid, that STO becomes a well rounded game :cool:
I'm pretty sure Kirk made his feelings clear on the Klingons and wanted them all dead. So if Kirk got his hands on the game it would probably just be the Feds. Which wouldn't stop it from being well rounded mind you. If the devs weren't worrying about other factions we might have things like bugs being fixed or even real exploration.
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I'm a Fed player, and I'm happy with the May addition. I see new missions for my Fed guy to do. So I'm good to see that. I also play KDF, so I see new stuff for them as well. Plus I have plans on making a Romulan as well. Why just focus on 1 Faction on the game when it offers others. I like doing different play styles.
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Real exploration? What is that? If you're talking about a static map that is uncovered by players, that would last two days before there was nothing left to explore. The system Cryptic has in now is the best they could possibly do. It could use a wider variety of missions, but still.
I've seen a couple of posts here and there in which players (Federation players) have been commenting / complaining that this latest update doesn't bring anything nice and new to the table for Federation players. To that, I'd say that you're right, though I'd also ask that you quit being so damned selfish.
Note: I say this primarily as a Federation player myself.
The big question is: Where?
I'm a somewhat avid follower of these forums and I haven't seen any threads of fed players complaining they're getting the short end in the may update....
I play 90% FED and I'm still very much looking forward to the update. Why wouldn't I? New missions to play, new ships to fly, new builds to try, new events to play. I don't care if it's FED, KDF or RSE content, I'll play it. Will I continue playing the new RSE toon after I plowed through the new content? Maybe, maybe not. Either way it doesn't hinder the enjoyment of playing my FED toons afterwards. This is the first time I have anyone seen complaints about FEDs not getting enough content. News-flash: Most people just don't care that much about factions as the 2% but extremely obnoxious KDF die-hards want to make you believe. Most people just want to enjoy the game and play ships they enjoy. Often this happens to be FED ships as they were the stars of the shows. Still, might as well be KDF ships, might be new RSE ships. More choices are better for the game, always.
I also can't find any of those supposed fed whining threads... for the reasons I just gave I don't think they exist too.
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AND I don't think we will be entirely without additions, since there seems to be at least one new rep system, and several nice upgrades that are system wide.
It's not really that hard of a concept to understand.
(especially, if one hangs around MMO Forums)
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
yes there is a major focus on romulans, and a smaller focus on klingons but fed players will get something to do as well even if its just a FE series or an adventure zone.
Not to mention the new reputation system becuase honestly who really thinks only one or two of the factions would be the only ones to get it?
There is also the fact that new enemies are being introduced and depending on who they are and what their doing the feds may also have to deal with them.
Plus I don't see how the federation would be left out of the story of Sela's return.
There, fixed that for you.
Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
Only thing those illiterate youths deserve is half a pound of gravel from Boothby's shovel!
And don't even get me started on those ridiculous looking blue moon people.
:P
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Quote I found:
?Complaining does not work as a strategy. We all have finite time and energy. Any time we spend whining is unlikely to help us achieve our goals. And it won't make us happier.?
I am happy for the KDF people if they do in fact get a long, overdue, addition of content. I personally have one KDF character, but I stopped when I had to start going through the same missions from the FED side, that I have already done 7 times lol. I'm not a hardcore KDF person, but I truly do feel for you guys. That is some dedication to stay with a game that for the longest time, ignored an entire fan base while constantly expanding on the other.
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I would gladly give up ever new Fed ship from the last 2 years if it meant we would got a handful of new STFs or other end-game Missions.
But yea, your right, I should've been more specific instead of saying "constantly expanding".
My bad there lol
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Simply take all current FED and KDF missions, and create <faction> angle on them.
As i see it, you could easily make 3 variants, or at least add pre-story and aftermath stories to each mission they currently have.
This would also motivate playing the missions on each faction, since you'd have to do it to get all angles on they story / get the entire story.
Could you link to these supposed posts, or better yet, just respond to them directly instead of creating a new thread to address a phantom audience?
Maybe one of the best thoughts I've heard in a long time. Think about it minimal effort big payoff. More content for all though some missions would have to be moved as fed/klink/rom lower lvls couldn't get to the appropriate maps.
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And the Federation will have the Tholian reputation and the STFS/missions that give Tholian marks too.
:rolleyes:
I'm sorry that you feel troubled, but as I've stated, I haven't got the time to go chasing through countless threads looking for some evidence to prove my post to you and a few select others.
Do you believe me? Probably not. Am I going to lose any sleep over it? Definitely not.
Have a nice day now.
I agree...this is waste of a thread and this is STO not KDF online. I like KDF as well but whining gets nowhere. Be happy for the majority of the playerbase or is it the needs of the ONE outweight the needs of the many?
But certainly you have encountered some of those posts in the past couple of days right? Care to point some out?
What I find most disturbing about your assertion is, a thread like this ... the thread you created ... should have attracted these fed whiners. They should have pounced on the bait and fallen into your trap. Yet the feds seem mostly to not be unhappy about the Romulan faction or the So Big It's Not Season 8 Season.
I'm starting to worry that your assertion was incorrect. If only there were some anti-Romulan feds to show up and really tear into Romulan fans. Where are they when we need them most?
Look at how disappointing Eraserfish's post was:
Look at that fail! It's epic! He's not actually unhappy! What's wrong with these feds?
I know, man. Because, Kirk forbid, that STO becomes a well rounded game :cool:
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Real exploration? What is that? If you're talking about a static map that is uncovered by players, that would last two days before there was nothing left to explore. The system Cryptic has in now is the best they could possibly do. It could use a wider variety of missions, but still.
The big question is: Where?
I'm a somewhat avid follower of these forums and I haven't seen any threads of fed players complaining they're getting the short end in the may update....
Take a look at eve. Sorry to say so but you know you can fly into a system you saw 200 times before and never know what to expect.
Just like the player control the environment and story and market.
Not saying we need a complete replica just pointing out there are alternatives to.. well, explore.
One returning thing on the shows were space anomalies. Which are sort of already in there disabling ship systems or interrupting functions.
Honestly I watch tv on my other pc while playing sto because it requires so little concentration and is 900 % predictable.
Some small changes would go a long way toward creating dynanism and something unknown.
I also can't find any of those supposed fed whining threads... for the reasons I just gave I don't think they exist too.
In fact, I am now working like crazy to get my Klingon capped out in the DOff and Rep systems before the Romulans go live.
I'm a predominantly Federation player.
(Just doing my bit to help validate the thread)
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Well said. I got 12 Characters.
5 complete rep feds.
1 complete rep kdf, 4 kdf 4 projects away from tier 5 omega and rom rep.
2 fed alts at rear admiral.
I can get the 4 kdf ones done before the update.
I'm happy about the update so far.