Due to the recent revelation of the Romulan faction and 1-50 Klingons, I propose a Tier 1 Klingon D7 ship to be comparable to the TOS Constitution class and the inevitable Tier 1 TOS Romulan BOP.
This D7 would only have the D7 skin, and perhaps a 2 Fore 1 Aft weapon layout, akin to the TOS Constitution.
Furthermore, this ship would be made IN ADDITION to the existing Tier 2 K'tinga/D7 refit. Not replacing.
I think it's more likely Cryptic will (if they ever add any lower tier Klingon ships) add the D5.
Otherwise it would be D7 overkill, because we'd have it a T1,3,5 and Fleet Level.:)
I think it's more likely Cryptic will (if they ever add any lower tier Klingon ships) add the D5.
Otherwise it would be D7 overkill, because we'd have it a T1,3,5 and Fleet Level.:)
Heh, I might have to roll a Rom toon, to get the KR cruiser.
<edit> Just occurred to me the KR isn't canon, my bad.
LOL
I just find it a bit silly that they would include the D7 Skin on the Tier THREE K'tinga. Since Cryptic won't likely give the TOS Connie a 4/2 Layout, that is possible with the D7 skin, I tried to think of a way where you can have a classic ship and make it comparable to the existing TOS Connie.
Yes, it was a B'rel. I'm simply asking for some variety. The FEDs have a light cruiser, a light escort, as well as the C Store TOS Connie and Oberth classes to round out the first tier.
Due to the recent revelation of the Romulan faction and 1-50 Klingons, I propose a Tier 1 Klingon D7 ship to be comparable to the TOS Constitution class and the inevitable Tier 1 TOS Romulan BOP.
This D7 would only have the D7 skin, and perhaps a 2 Fore 1 Aft weapon layout, akin to the TOS Constitution.
Furthermore, this ship would be made IN ADDITION to the existing Tier 2 K'tinga/D7 refit. Not replacing.
Back in the old days when Klingons actually started from Level 1, people did talk about having a D7 as one of the starter ships (instead of just the B'rel). But instead, they just made the D7 and K'T'inga one in the same (except different skins).
If Cryptic really wanted to, they could easily could have the B'rel, D4, D5, and D7 as all Starter ships for KDF. (D4 is already in game as the Koro'Tinga, and would be counter to the NX / Utopia), the D7 counter to the TOS Consitution.
For Romulans the TOS R-BoP counter for the TOS D7 and Consitution.
Nope, the D5 should be T2 ship at least, so I can eventually get a fleet version of the ship - cause they don't make fleet variants of Tier 1 ships.
And I reaaaaaly want that one to use at end-game!
It's a Rom D7, aka "K-R". The ship itself is canon, the label is just there to distinguish it from the Kli D7. I doubt it will qualify for T-5ness, but it'll briefly be a battlecruiser the Rommies can use with Klingon-level agility, something other canonical Rom cruisers would probably lack: You never see a D'Deridex move, and it gets outmaneuvered by even Galaxies.
It's a Rom D7, aka "K-R". The ship itself is canon, the label is just there to distinguish it from the Kli D7
KR does not stand for anything related to "Romulan".
It stands for "Kestrel" and actually applies to the transferred D6, while the D7s were called K7R.
In FASA's material they were called V-11 "Stormbird".
In recent novels Romulan versions of the D7 are called "Ventarix", but what they're called in canon is unknown.
*EDIT: I see your edited your post while I wrote my response*
KR is a designation from the old Star Fleet Battles game. It doesn't represent any name (not even Kestrel, though that may have become the accepted interpretation).
The game suggested the Romulans recieved several classes of ships from the Klingons in exchange for the Cloak. The KR was based on the D6 cruiser. The K5R was another example of this naming convention. Basically, it amounted to K-lingon R-efit or K-lingon R-omluan refit. I don't recall it ever being officially designated one way or another, it was largely left to individual interpretation.
To me, I just say "Romulan D7", because that's what it is.
Besides, there is nothing in canon that stated that the Klingons traded any other type of ship. All we know Romulans exchanged their Cloaking Devices for Klingon D7s, which had the power reserves to power the new Cloaking Devices.
actually I would love to have a old D5 battlecruiser as a tier 1 ship. that's my favorite Klingon ship of all time. but of course if they did this I would want a tier 5 fleet version as well.
You're surprised that they haven't added some sort of customizable ship skin, ship, uniform or item for the KDF? Really?
Who said I was surprised? :rolleyes:
I mean, KDF players actually wanting actual canonical KDF content, go figure! :rolleyes:
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,582Community Moderator
edited March 2013
In regards to the K-R debate... The K-Rs also appeared in Star Trek: Starfleet Command and Star Trek: Starfleet Command vol 2 Empires at War. Although the SFC games were based on the old SFB games.
In regards to the K-R debate... The K-Rs also appeared in Star Trek: Starfleet Command and Star Trek: Starfleet Command vol 2 Empires at War. Although the SFC games were based on the old SFB games.
Well, the K7R is the only one we've ever actually seen on screen. That's the canonical member of the KR-type that should probably be in the game.
People give it the Designation of K7R or K-R, but it's not offically called that.
Besides, I seriously doubt the Romulans would even use that designation. Partly, out of pride.
A good example in the real world would be Chinese military equipment that was purchased from the Russians, they didn't keep the Russian or NATO designations and instead renamed it according to their own designations.
That's why Cryptic should just refer to the Romulan D7, as the Romulan D7. Just like the majority of Star Trek fans do.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,582Community Moderator
edited March 2013
I know SFC isn't canon. I was just pointing out that the K-Rs were also in those. :cool:
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I think it's more likely Cryptic will (if they ever add any lower tier Klingon ships) add the D5.
Otherwise it would be D7 overkill, because we'd have it a T1,3,5 and Fleet Level.:)
Heh, I might have to roll a Rom toon, to get the KR cruiser.
<edit> Just occurred to me the KR isn't canon, my bad.
LOL
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Let's hope they'll get one.
At least then they'll have a ship with style.:P
I just find it a bit silly that they would include the D7 Skin on the Tier THREE K'tinga. Since Cryptic won't likely give the TOS Connie a 4/2 Layout, that is possible with the D7 skin, I tried to think of a way where you can have a classic ship and make it comparable to the existing TOS Connie.
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Back in the old days when Klingons actually started from Level 1, people did talk about having a D7 as one of the starter ships (instead of just the B'rel). But instead, they just made the D7 and K'T'inga one in the same (except different skins).
If Cryptic really wanted to, they could easily could have the B'rel, D4, D5, and D7 as all Starter ships for KDF. (D4 is already in game as the Koro'Tinga, and would be counter to the NX / Utopia), the D7 counter to the TOS Consitution.
For Romulans the TOS R-BoP counter for the TOS D7 and Consitution.
Nope, the D5 should be T2 ship at least, so I can eventually get a fleet version of the ship - cause they don't make fleet variants of Tier 1 ships.
And I reaaaaaly want that one to use at end-game!
The ship yes, but the name comes from a less-than-non-canon source:
"Star Fleet Battles", which is not even Star Trek.
KR does not stand for anything related to "Romulan".
It stands for "Kestrel" and actually applies to the transferred D6, while the D7s were called K7R.
In FASA's material they were called V-11 "Stormbird".
In recent novels Romulan versions of the D7 are called "Ventarix", but what they're called in canon is unknown.
*EDIT: I see your edited your post while I wrote my response*
There is a Fleet D7 at tier 5
having another D7 as a tier 1 +1 ship makes little sense.
The tier 1 +1 ship should be the D5
To me, I just say "Romulan D7", because that's what it is.
Besides, there is nothing in canon that stated that the Klingons traded any other type of ship. All we know Romulans exchanged their Cloaking Devices for Klingon D7s, which had the power reserves to power the new Cloaking Devices.
They really should add the D5, surprised they havn't.
But with the D7 and K'T'inga, it's a good proof that Cryptic should revise the ship system so you have the option of leveling with it.
Who said I was surprised? :rolleyes:
I mean, KDF players actually wanting actual canonical KDF content, go figure! :rolleyes:
Sorry, not canon.
People give it the Designation of K7R or K-R, but it's not offically called that.
Besides, I seriously doubt the Romulans would even use that designation. Partly, out of pride.
A good example in the real world would be Chinese military equipment that was purchased from the Russians, they didn't keep the Russian or NATO designations and instead renamed it according to their own designations.
That's why Cryptic should just refer to the Romulan D7, as the Romulan D7. Just like the majority of Star Trek fans do.