The only difference is the png file for the Cardassian one is a fairly blank 8x8 pixel image and the Romulan has a Romulan image.
So does that mean we get a Cardie faction in the future, is it all a red hoax or are they simply future-proofing the Gateway / game for stuff that may or may not become features in the future? Who knows.
Yes, you are missing the point. The complaint is that the fed has all of these so-called "boring" missions.
Yet most of you players skip that boring stuff and get right to the meat and potatoes of this game:
Mindless grinding.
Because that's so much more engaging.
I was just saying the fed have a lot of boring mission, to answer people who say the KDF are neglected because they have less missions. Nothing about people skipping storyline to grind. And BTW, KDF have the same amount of grind missions than feds.
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Flexible and open to new ideas, our community structure is unique, to give us the maximum possibility to remain active and thriving until STO ends, if ever it does. I invite all players who want a stable, rewarding home to join us. I know there is fierce competition among fleets for players, we appreciate very much good players who choose to make a home with us.
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Nah, you guys aren't the first to do that. And this is not the right topic for your post. Not even the right forum.
You know, I wanted to make a couple of constructive points to the discussion here, but after reading through this tread I came to the conclusion that it would only lead to waste of my valuable time.
So, I'll just say that after reading the kind of opinions that dominate the Romulan fanbase I am even more glad and happy to be a KDF fan. If the people posting here represent what the majority of the Romulan fans are like, I would never want to have anything to do with that faction.
And no, regardless if your wishes are that the KDF ceases to exist, I won't wish that Cryptic slaps a Romulan lockbox in your faces (although from what I've read more than enough people would be very happy exactly with that), because unlike most of you I'm not that shortsighted and I care for the state of the game as a whole. I like playing STO and I want it to be around for many years to come. So I'll wish you to get your faction for the good of STO, although from what I read here many people that call them selves Romulan fans don't deserve one.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be leaving this pathetic display of Romulan desparation to join some fellow warriors in annoying the Feds. at Ker'rat.
There's also a "mission" for scanning particle traces..... and "missions" for getting a requisition for a new ship in the shipyard.... so?
Euphemistically speaking, of course.
When some of us talk about "story" missions, we are not talking about generic patrols and random exploration. We're tallking about mission arcs that have more immersive and complex content. The fun stuff.
When some of us talk about "story" missions, we are not talking about generic patrols and random exploration. We're tallking about mission arcs that have more immersive and complex content. The fun stuff.
That's the thing. Folks like markhawkman have given up on that and fully embraced the grind. They do STFs ad nauseum, mine dilithium on asteroids, tag bunny rabits, send DOFFs off to do the same DOFF mission they did 8 hours prior, and call that a day.
And then other posters say that the low level fed story missions are just boring and shallow. Even when the game most people are playing like hamsters on a wheel is that much more shallow.
It's been entertaining watching this discussion evolve.
Romulan fans want a Romulan experience. But KDF vets keep pointing out that Cryptic can't produce that because for three years they've ... not produced that.
So desperation kicks in and people say "well we don't want those boring low level story missions, this is all about the endgame and nobody cares about going to a space station to scan a cargo bay."
Round and round it goes.
But really, at the end of the day, it's just more desperation. People WILL complain if an equally incomplete and ignored Romulan faction happens. Once they get tired of doing the same STF 62 times with their D'Deridex and want a little something more Romulan.
And then we're right back where started. 12% of the population simply isn't going to get Cryptic's resources.
I was just saying the fed have a lot of boring mission, to answer people who say the KDF are neglected because they have less missions. Nothing about people skipping storyline to grind. And BTW, KDF have the same amount of grind missions than feds.
Yes, you are missing the point. The complaint is that the fed has all of these so-called "boring" missions.
Yet most of you players skip that boring stuff and get right to the meat and potatoes of this game:
Mindless grinding.
Because that's so much more engaging.
What Erei said.... Comparing bad story missions to non-story missions is a waste of time. The previous discussion was about the relative quality of the missions and how the KDF currently has a generally higher mission quality than Feds. That point still stands. Sure, Feds do have many good story missions, but they have more lame and boring story missions than good story missions.
That's the thing. Folks like markhawkman have given up on that and fully embraced the grind. They do STFs ad nauseum, mine dilithium on asteroids, tag bunny rabits, send DOFFs off to do the same DOFF mission they did 8 hours prior, and call that a day.
And then other posters say that the low level fed story missions are just boring and shallow. Even when the game most people are playing like hamsters on a wheel is that much more shallow.
It's been entertaining watching this discussion evolve.
Romulan fans want a Romulan experience. But KDF vets keep pointing out that Cryptic can't produce that because for three years they've ... not produced that.
So desperation kicks in and people say "well we don't want those boring low level story missions, this is all about the endgame and nobody cares about going to a space station to scan a cargo bay."
Round and round it goes.
But really, at the end of the day, it's just more desperation. People WILL complain if an equally incomplete and ignored Romulan faction happens. Once they get tired of doing the same STF 62 times with their D'Deridex and want a little something more Romulan.
And then we're right back where started. 12% of the population simply isn't going to get Cryptic's resources.
"Desperation"? Really? How does it require desperation to want the game to continue to move forwards?
Going "We want this before that gets added" is a waste of breath. 1: your opinion doesn't count(neither does mine), 2: the game MUST move forwards or die. If part of the playerbase doesn't like it... too bad. I remember a particularly silly thread where a poster tried to convince Cryptic that they should revert season 7.... hehe.... yeah right.... Not gonna happen.
You do know that this is an MMO right? It's not an RPG where the story IS the game.... Sure it's focussed on story more than most MMOs, but MMOs can't be entirely story based. Why? Games that are have too little replayability.
Players looking for a Romulan team, your wait is over. I am pleased to say my quest to find good founders succeeded besides overwhelming odds. Founded over the weekend, XTERNITY is the first guild dedicated to the coming Romulan faction and Romulan players everywhere, as well as longterm players of any species and play style. We are an originally designed team and critically need the support of good players who can work together to build something special.
Flexible and open to new ideas, our community structure is unique, to give us the maximum possibility to remain active and thriving until STO ends, if ever it does. I invite all players who want a stable, rewarding home to join us. I know there is fierce competition among fleets for players, we appreciate very much good players who choose to make a home with us.
Please contact me in game for more details: xean@xtern1ty
Thank you.
Xean
Founder of XTERNITY
When I say people really need top temper their optimism to avoid disappointment, this is exactly the kind of person I'm talking about. Talk about jumping the gun.
[...]Founded over the weekend, XTERNITY is the first guild dedicated to the coming Romulan faction and Romulan players everywhere, as well as longterm players of any species and play style. [...]
Xean
Founder of XTERNITY
Hmmmm..... Not so. We are the original Romulan community in STO and our community at large as been around since 1990. A community dedicated to Romulan culture and lore in all iterations of the ST franchise. Moreover our fleet was established within minutes of being able to do so in STO and has been functional ever since.
If you are looking for an excellent PvE fleet consider: Omega Combat Division today.
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The previous discussion was about the relative quality of the missions and how the KDF currently has a generally higher mission quality than Feds. That point still stands.
The point doesn't stand. The point the KDF vets keep making is that they don't have enough mission content to level from 1 to 50. So your counterpoint is that there's a group of story missions you find boring. But the KDF has 8 to 9 missions written for them back in season 2. Period.
Sure, Feds do have many good story missions, but they have more lame and boring story missions than good story missions.
More than the KDF. Because they have so many more missions overall. The KDF has a handful of missions. The Feds have more quality missions. More missions. More story.
In a game based on Star Trek, story is a key part of the attraction. The KDF aren't a complete faction.
Haven't been a complete faction.
And will not be a complete faction.
To think it's "good enough" to get an incomplete romulan faction isn't moving the game forward. And it is desperation.
The point doesn't stand. The point the KDF vets keep making is that they don't have enough mission content to level from 1 to 50. So your counterpoint is that there's a group of story missions you find boring. But the KDF has 8 to 9 missions written for them back in season 2. Period.
More than the KDF. Because they have so many more missions overall. The KDF has a handful of missions. The Feds have more quality missions. More missions. More story.
In a game based on Star Trek, story is a key part of the attraction. The KDF aren't a complete faction.
Haven't been a complete faction.
And will not be a complete faction.
To think it's "good enough" to get an incomplete romulan faction isn't moving the game forward. And it is desperation.
The missions you talk about where made back when the game was released, or close to it. Feds may also complain it was done a very long time.
If you really want those boring missions, I'm sure we can include them with the Foundry, it shouldn't take more than 1 hour to add a station and several fed spawn inside.
I for one, prefer quality over quantity, but that's just me, I understand some others want the opposite.
If they add a romulan faction with the same quality as the KDF are now, I'll be happy. But I may be desperate.
The point doesn't stand. The point the KDF vets keep making is that they don't have enough mission content to level from 1 to 50. So your counterpoint is that there's a group of story missions you find boring. But the KDF has 8 to 9 missions written for them back in season 2. Period.
More than the KDF. Because they have so many more missions overall. The KDF has a handful of missions. The Feds have more quality missions. More missions. More story.
In a game based on Star Trek, story is a key part of the attraction. The KDF aren't a complete faction.
Haven't been a complete faction.
And will not be a complete faction.
To think it's "good enough" to get an incomplete romulan faction isn't moving the game forward. And it is desperation.
How would adding another playable faction NOT move the game forwards? Explain that please...
The way things stand now, Fed players don't have any need to play more than a handful of story missions to level. As soon as Feds hit level 8, getting to VA becomes an inevitability and story missions typically get played for one of 2 reasons: either they're really good, or the player wants the mission reward. The devs could replicate that experience with the number of missions the KDF has now.....
How would adding another playable faction NOT move the game forwards? Explain that please...
When was the last time you did anything in Pelia sector? When was the last time you did a first contact mission? When was the last time you levelled a crafter up to max crafting level?
Just because they implement something new doesn't mean it moved the game forward.
When was the last time you did anything in Pelia sector? When was the last time you did a first contact mission? When was the last time you levelled a crafter up to max crafting level?
Just because they implement something new doesn't mean it moved the game forward.
I actually had to think about the Pelia sector before I knew what it was.....
When was the last time you did anything in Pelia sector? When was the last time you did a first contact mission? When was the last time you levelled a crafter up to max crafting level?
Just because they implement something new doesn't mean it moved the game forward.
lol! I'll take your Pelia Sector and raise you a DS9 - y'know - that place an entire fricking series was based around.
Outside of the Cardassian arc (and for KDF, the five 2800 episodes) there's simply no reason to go there any more.
Maybe they know people will be looking for such a logo, so they "hid" one on the gateway.. thing. As a bluff, a decoy. To fool you and make you speculate even more.
Not that I'm saying there isn't going to be a faction, or that there will be, but it could just be a joke on the players by the team! The graphic isn't that high quality against the KDF and FED logos, but it looks awesome nevertheless.
:P~
Edit:
Lovely little bits of references in these teasers, unsure if intentional or not.
"In Star Trek canon, this phrase which appears in Enterprise season 4, episode 7 - The Forge, is used to describe those who rejected Surak's teachings of logic and emotional control, left Vulcan, and formed the Romulan Empire."
Extra funny since there are already robes and hoodies in the game SO on the outside chance we actually are getting a romulan faction I hope they bring out the RIGHT clothes this time.
well other then being the best Doffing Hub in the game
Well if there were some DS9-exclusive Doff missions then maybe it'd be worth heading there but they're the same as the rest of the Beta Ursae block missions.
And besides, any smuggler knows the best run for Contraband is Eta Eridani, Regulus and the Romulan sectors why else would you Doff??
*grabs pop-corn and watches this thread closing* If it is taken as data mining like someone said, this is against the TOS. But interesting find anyway.
Yep, still trying to figure out why this thread has been allowed to go on for 24+ pages, when a similar thread with sound files that were data mined was quickly deleted, and the individual was banned.
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That's probably just a blank page. I get the same thing with http://gateway.startrekonline.com/tex/Choose_Faction_Marshmallow.wtex
I don't know abut anyone else, but I want a Marshmallow faction with sailor uniforms now.
Yet most of you players skip that boring stuff and get right to the meat and potatoes of this game:
Mindless grinding.
Because that's so much more engaging.
or upcoming mission klingons betray romulans and you need choose what side to be on.
Jolan tru,
Players looking for a Romulan team, your wait is over. I am pleased to say my quest to find good founders succeeded besides overwhelming odds. Founded over the weekend, XTERNITY is the first guild dedicated to the coming Romulan faction and Romulan players everywhere, as well as longterm players of any species and play style. We are an originally designed team and critically need the support of good players who can work together to build something special.
Flexible and open to new ideas, our community structure is unique, to give us the maximum possibility to remain active and thriving until STO ends, if ever it does. I invite all players who want a stable, rewarding home to join us. I know there is fierce competition among fleets for players, we appreciate very much good players who choose to make a home with us.
Please contact me in game for more details: xean@xtern1ty
Thank you.
Xean
Founder of XTERNITY
So, I'll just say that after reading the kind of opinions that dominate the Romulan fanbase I am even more glad and happy to be a KDF fan. If the people posting here represent what the majority of the Romulan fans are like, I would never want to have anything to do with that faction.
And no, regardless if your wishes are that the KDF ceases to exist, I won't wish that Cryptic slaps a Romulan lockbox in your faces (although from what I've read more than enough people would be very happy exactly with that), because unlike most of you I'm not that shortsighted and I care for the state of the game as a whole. I like playing STO and I want it to be around for many years to come. So I'll wish you to get your faction for the good of STO, although from what I read here many people that call them selves Romulan fans don't deserve one.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be leaving this pathetic display of Romulan desparation to join some fellow warriors in annoying the Feds. at Ker'rat.
Good enough for Romulan Fans who just want to simply exist?
Euphemistically speaking, of course.
When some of us talk about "story" missions, we are not talking about generic patrols and random exploration. We're tallking about mission arcs that have more immersive and complex content. The fun stuff.
And then other posters say that the low level fed story missions are just boring and shallow. Even when the game most people are playing like hamsters on a wheel is that much more shallow.
It's been entertaining watching this discussion evolve.
Romulan fans want a Romulan experience. But KDF vets keep pointing out that Cryptic can't produce that because for three years they've ... not produced that.
So desperation kicks in and people say "well we don't want those boring low level story missions, this is all about the endgame and nobody cares about going to a space station to scan a cargo bay."
Round and round it goes.
But really, at the end of the day, it's just more desperation. People WILL complain if an equally incomplete and ignored Romulan faction happens. Once they get tired of doing the same STF 62 times with their D'Deridex and want a little something more Romulan.
And then we're right back where started. 12% of the population simply isn't going to get Cryptic's resources.
My character Tsin'xing
Going "We want this before that gets added" is a waste of breath. 1: your opinion doesn't count(neither does mine), 2: the game MUST move forwards or die. If part of the playerbase doesn't like it... too bad. I remember a particularly silly thread where a poster tried to convince Cryptic that they should revert season 7.... hehe.... yeah right.... Not gonna happen.
You do know that this is an MMO right? It's not an RPG where the story IS the game.... Sure it's focussed on story more than most MMOs, but MMOs can't be entirely story based. Why? Games that are have too little replayability.
My character Tsin'xing
When I say people really need top temper their optimism to avoid disappointment, this is exactly the kind of person I'm talking about. Talk about jumping the gun.
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Hmmmm..... Not so. We are the original Romulan community in STO and our community at large as been around since 1990. A community dedicated to Romulan culture and lore in all iterations of the ST franchise. Moreover our fleet was established within minutes of being able to do so in STO and has been functional ever since.
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The point doesn't stand. The point the KDF vets keep making is that they don't have enough mission content to level from 1 to 50. So your counterpoint is that there's a group of story missions you find boring. But the KDF has 8 to 9 missions written for them back in season 2. Period.
More than the KDF. Because they have so many more missions overall. The KDF has a handful of missions. The Feds have more quality missions. More missions. More story.
In a game based on Star Trek, story is a key part of the attraction. The KDF aren't a complete faction.
Haven't been a complete faction.
And will not be a complete faction.
To think it's "good enough" to get an incomplete romulan faction isn't moving the game forward. And it is desperation.
If you really want those boring missions, I'm sure we can include them with the Foundry, it shouldn't take more than 1 hour to add a station and several fed spawn inside.
I for one, prefer quality over quantity, but that's just me, I understand some others want the opposite.
If they add a romulan faction with the same quality as the KDF are now, I'll be happy. But I may be desperate.
The way things stand now, Fed players don't have any need to play more than a handful of story missions to level. As soon as Feds hit level 8, getting to VA becomes an inevitability and story missions typically get played for one of 2 reasons: either they're really good, or the player wants the mission reward. The devs could replicate that experience with the number of missions the KDF has now.....
My character Tsin'xing
It's going to get ugly... Good thing I stocked up on red bull, popcorn, and My Seth Macfarlane Jokes about the 80's.
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When was the last time you did anything in Pelia sector? When was the last time you did a first contact mission? When was the last time you levelled a crafter up to max crafting level?
Just because they implement something new doesn't mean it moved the game forward.
I actually had to think about the Pelia sector before I knew what it was.....
lol! I'll take your Pelia Sector and raise you a DS9 - y'know - that place an entire fricking series was based around.
Outside of the Cardassian arc (and for KDF, the five 2800 episodes) there's simply no reason to go there any more.
Unless you like Gorn jokes.
Not that I'm saying there isn't going to be a faction, or that there will be, but it could just be a joke on the players by the team! The graphic isn't that high quality against the KDF and FED logos, but it looks awesome nevertheless.
:P~
Edit:
Lovely little bits of references in these teasers, unsure if intentional or not.
- http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/romulans-coming-to-star-trek-online-may/
well other then being the best Doffing Hub in the game
If Cryptic did this, they would get all the money.
Just count the number of klingon costumes in the c-store, albeit I will admit the klings by far have the nicest outfits.
And speaking of nice outfits, I really hoped to see the romulan embassy be exactly that.
You know a robe or hoodie or even both would have made a lot of sense for an ambassador
http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tng-208-picard-sees-his-close/320x240.jpg
Extra funny since there are already robes and hoodies in the game SO on the outside chance we actually are getting a romulan faction I hope they bring out the RIGHT clothes this time.
Well if there were some DS9-exclusive Doff missions then maybe it'd be worth heading there but they're the same as the rest of the Beta Ursae block missions.
And besides, any smuggler knows the best run for Contraband is Eta Eridani, Regulus and the Romulan sectors
Yep, still trying to figure out why this thread has been allowed to go on for 24+ pages, when a similar thread with sound files that were data mined was quickly deleted, and the individual was banned.
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