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With the Romulan Faction practically confirmed, I'd like to see that faction with more than just the Romulan and Reman playable species. Sure we'd likely get an Alien option, along with the option of Liberated Borg, but neither of those are what I'd call actual species. That and the Suliban (who I'm holding out hope for).
The Federation have the Caitian, the Klingons have the Ferasan. I think it would be a safe bet to think the Romulans would need some pet love too, though I don't feel the need for a third cat race. Thus, I got thinking about Dogs (but a normal, two-legged poodle just didn't cut it).
Then I thought about Werewolves; specifically the sort from the Underworld Films (those than stand on their two hind legs). The Werewolves from Twilight simply wouldn't work cause they're always running around on all fours. Suffice to say, would anyone else join me in wishing for a Werewolve Species as the Caitian/Ferasan counterpart? They could also serve as a counterpart to the Gorn (being generally well-built and strong).
Obviously we'd not call these guys Werewolves (a species name would be up to Cryptic) ~ maybe just go with Lycan?
References:
- http://werewolf-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gladiators-v-werewolves-poster.jpg
- http://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gladiators-v-werewolves-longscar.jpg
- http://www.clickthecity.com/img2/articles/CTC-4344-image4.jpg
- http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/186/e/6/werewolf_drawing_7_by_tribalwolfie.jpg
- http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SIUL8EbikTs/SwssAsdPZgI/AAAAAAAAAgA/fmr2yOV_-gk/s1600/werewolf-vanhelsing.jpg
What say you?
The Federation have the Caitian, the Klingons have the Ferasan. I think it would be a safe bet to think the Romulans would need some pet love too, though I don't feel the need for a third cat race. Thus, I got thinking about Dogs (but a normal, two-legged poodle just didn't cut it).
Then I thought about Werewolves; specifically the sort from the Underworld Films (those than stand on their two hind legs). The Werewolves from Twilight simply wouldn't work cause they're always running around on all fours. Suffice to say, would anyone else join me in wishing for a Werewolve Species as the Caitian/Ferasan counterpart? They could also serve as a counterpart to the Gorn (being generally well-built and strong).
Obviously we'd not call these guys Werewolves (a species name would be up to Cryptic) ~ maybe just go with Lycan?
References:
- http://werewolf-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gladiators-v-werewolves-poster.jpg
- http://scifimafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gladiators-v-werewolves-longscar.jpg
- http://www.clickthecity.com/img2/articles/CTC-4344-image4.jpg
- http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/186/e/6/werewolf_drawing_7_by_tribalwolfie.jpg
- http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SIUL8EbikTs/SwssAsdPZgI/AAAAAAAAAgA/fmr2yOV_-gk/s1600/werewolf-vanhelsing.jpg
What say you?
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No thanks.
I think Star Wars has enough anthropomorphised animals: Togorians (cat-people) Calibops (bird-people) Bothans (goat-people) we don't need the same bogus in Star Trek or STO.
The Ferasans have never been in canon Trek either, nor has an actual Icionian. We've never seen Starfleet and Klingon captains flying around in Ferengi Marauders or Cardassian Cruisers either (in canon). In order for this game to survive, it needs to adapt. It's not like I'm asking for space elves and fairies, just a canine species for the Romulans to play with.
They would be exclusive to the Romulan Faction thus there wouldn't be a single furry wolf on Earth Space Dock.
Infinitely more agreeable than wolfaboos clogging up my screen.
Reskin of Caitians is not too much of a stretch.
But we've seen their planet and technology. It's just up to Cryptic to give them a face.
But those ships do exist in Trek canon. That's the point, not who's commanding them.
The game doesn't need to take on your awful idea to survive. Anthropomorphic wolves are not necessary. They have never been a part of Trek. Although I wouldn't mind if the Romulans did get an Antican subspecies that was ugly and bald with white eyebrows and beards that eerily resemble a certain dog breed, just to upset the wolfaboos who want furry anthro wolf characters. Because you and I both know this is exactly the kind of awful TRIBBLE you want to foul up the game with.
And thus you'd have the Romulan faction ruined by wolfaboos. Not a good plan.
If memory serves, just getting Caitans in the game was a challenge. They had to be redesigned to fit Trek's modern style and STO own look, they needed new tech and animation, etc. That's not going to happen again on a whim, especially a non-canonical whim. Even if Cryptic wanted to do it CBS would drop the veto hammer anyway.
But since Anticans were mentioned, may as well toss them in somewhere. Their lizard friends, too. Give one race to the KDF (probably the Anticans) and the other to the Feds (the lizard dudes, just 'cause the KDF already have the Gorn.)
Keep in mind that any more races with fur and tails will just become targets for Starfleet Dental. Now, I personally find that hilarious, but I'm probably in the minority. Probably.
They were applying.
I don't get every job I apply for automatically either.
And they were not supposed to eat the other delegate on their way to the conference.
And I'm pretty sure you know by now that the reason the Ferasans were added was because of the Kzinti debacle.
Yes this game needs to adapt, but is this they only direction open to it, to us?
The Gorn were not anthropomorphised animals, they were humanoids that evoloved from something other than mokeys.
It's not really possible to point to animal X and say "yet, that was adapted".
With that you propose there'd be more species along the lines of "I can see which animal was used".
It would also be, as you yourself put it, a bit of a rehash of something done a thousand times over in another genre.
Isn't that what Trek is NOT about, rehashing old ideas?
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why allow an inferior race into the Empires forces??
Remans are used as shock troops (mostly)
Everyone else should be Romulan (in official uniforms without variation)
People rag on furries and say they don't want them in the game; news flash they're already all over. They are also notable for having loose purse-strings when it comes to things they like and want, so offering more anthro race options would actually be a good move by Cryptic to tap into those easy-flowing funds.
between the fed and kdf player.. and the loss of roulas we've destroyed over "200" (a lot more) ships each.. so its possible their suffering from a shortage of man power.. thus needing to recruit "lesser" races.. even if in the long terms they are slaves.
As for werewolves, im split between either that or the Xindi-Insectiods... anything but another cat race.
Uh what. That's one hell of an assumption you've got there. Until the Dev team says what NS8 is, we should assume it's not a Rom faction. That way, we can pleasently surprised if it is.
In any case - No. Cryptic should make a new race with some original thought rather than "lol dog-people". Also, STO does not need New Romulus full of yiff.
BTW, if you add the werewolves, I want the duck people someone else mentioned.
Yes I vote for the canines (i.e Anticans). To balance the game...since those cats could be nasty at times. Someone at Cryptic might be biased in favor of cats not dog people...I want to see how an Antican can tear apart one of those cats for lunch....:cool:
Um, no. I mean...I think werewolves are cool and all, and I'm definitely a dog person, but...really that kinda stuff isn't "harmonious" with Star Trek lore in any way. Pet-wise, sure, bring on the caninoids. Race-wise? I don't much care.
When Romulans are playable, I will play as a Romulan.
We've heard of a whole number of other species that we've never seen before. There is nothing to stop Cryptic turning them into Wolves.
On the contrary, it is the point. The argument above was that such a species wouldn't be "canon". I've extended that to cover other things that wouldn't be considered "canon" either. You're picking at points you're willing to accept over those you're not.
If they had to redesign the game for fur, then they've already achieved part of the problem. Such a species wouldn't be true to canon, no, but there is nothing to stop a new species from being encountered / discovered. I'd expect CBS would be all for something new. Sure, I can't say for sure, I can only speculate.
No, it isn't the only direction, but it is a direction and I feel it's an appropriate one. A Romulan Faction would need some muscle, and a Wolf-like species would do the job just fine.
It is completely possible. This is Fictional.
On the contrary, you can watch a whole bunch of TV shows, films etc and you'll fine rehashed ideas. Trek is no different. Some (not me) would argue that DS9 was a rehash of Babylon 5.
Why would such a species be inferior?
I'm sure you're one of the people that wishes a Romulan Faction to be just Romulan and Reman, and that is an opinion you're entitled too. I however want more species to play around with. If other species are off putting to (what would be) your Romulan crew, you need not assign them to your bridge. I happen to want some variation in my crew however.
Exactly. Such a species would get a bucketload of cash from players. That much alone should be reason enough for Cryptic to at least contemplate adding them.
My problem with the Xindi is that they're suppose to join the Federation at one point, and (as a general rule of thumb) they tend to stick together (at the end of the day). Adding one species to one faction and another species to another faction would ruin them.
I don't believe Cryptic are allowed to use the Tkenkethi. I would however vote for them for use by Romulan players. The question is though, are the Cats, or Lizards?
All things considered, it'll be a Romulan faction. I'll put all my remaining zen on it.
1) I don't believe a Romulan faction would focus on D'Tan and New Romulus. It'll likely be Sela.
2) As people have complained already about the KDF having Gorn, Orion and Nausciaan walking around. It's happened, and some people like variation.
Romulans aren't accepting of other races, no. But Sela (giving that she'll likely be heading a Romulan faction) is more open minded that other Romulans. Need I mention the Hirogen?
I'll likely be playing as a Romulan too. That isn't to say I'll want only Romulan and Reman Bridge Officers though. Hell No! I want a mixed Bridge Crew that isn't made from the Alien Generator.
My preference would be:
Anticans join the KDF, Sehlat join the Romulans (the great irony there is that neither join the Feds) and Feds get Grazerites or Avians (vestigal wings but possibly good for gliding for control/reduced speed in falling as a cosmetic thing).
I'd take that bet, if the Andorian escorts hadn't already taken my Zen. And I disagree, because so much "work" has gone into "building" New Romulus (as it were) to just say "Well, we spent all that time and money building New Romulus and establishing characters and backstory. The Romulan faction won't have a damn thing to do with any of that."
Although this is Cryptic, so I have those words on a silver platter, ready to be eaten at a moment's notice.
As far as other species - Still don't thing a wolf/dog/canine species is the right way to go "just cuz" Klingons have Ferasans and Gorn and Starfleet gets Caitians. In fact, wouldn't be surprised if the Yridians are playable in a Romulan faction. They never seemed to be the Starfleet type, really, and they have always come across as a bit deceitful and wily, something which probably wouldn't sit well with the KDF either. But wily and deceptive? That sounds like the Romulans we know and love.
Space Elves are already in the game.
Selay.
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add hirogen
depending on whether the romulan faction is from a sela loyal point of view, or new romulus point of view ^^
I had hoped you, or someone else would bring this up.
The architecture and scenery of New Romulus is likely that of what Old Romulus was. There is nothing stopping Cryptic from re-using the architecture and scenery on a new Romulan Planet governed by Sela. We'd only need a handful of ground locations as it is.
Oddly enough, I swear an Ask Cryptic answer mentioned the Yridians.
That being said, under normal circumstances I can't see how the Lethean or Orion were merged with the Klingon Empire. They're hardly honorable species are they? They'd have both been better suited for Romulan Allies.
Vulcans are not Space Elves. They're core Trek.
And here is the hypocrisy.
People have commented that a Romulan faction should consist only of Romulan and Reman because of their xenophobia toward other species, yet Sela has already lured the Hirogen into the Star Empire. It's all or nothing, and Cryptic have decided that the Hirogen will play a part in a Romulan faction (playable or otherwise). Thus, the mere fact that the Hirogen are involved paves the way for other non-unique-romulan species to be implemented.
Only if Cryptic comes up with a decent story-related reason to add other species.
The Hirogen get a pass due to their involvement with Sela. There are other logical reasons to include them as well, but that right there is the linchpin. Presently there are no other races presented in the story with plot-related reasons to join or ally with the RSE.
So unless Cryptic decides to write more in, the only races that make sense are Romulan, Reman, Hirogen, Alien, Lib. Borg, and Joined Trill, and the latter two only because their method of acquisition has always implied being universally usable (Lib. Borg with the LTS and Joined Trill's main sales draw being usable in both existing factions).
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Okay, it's time to ask: Are you in fact, a member of the furry fandom?
And if OP is, why would it matter?
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1) Suliban; remnants of the Kabal (from Enterprise) joining with Romulan Intelligence initially for some ulterior motive. Now they're apart of the Romulan Empire. If the Suliban have the ability to shapeshift, then we could have seen a whole bunch of them throughout TOS, TNG, DS9 (etc). Besides, with their skills and tactics, they'd be the perfect spy.
2) Vaudwaar; they're small in number (at least now) and have subspace corridors reaching far out into the Galaxy. Why not have them pop up in Romulan Space? The Vaudwaar are looking to rebuild and regain strength, and are somewhat in the same situation as the Romulans (who have also lost a lot). Two species with the same... background (at least in terms of suffering) could coexist and help each other, thus forming a stronger, single power.
Simple.
No, I just think a Wolf-like species would be cool. That being said, a Lizard-like species that weren't sloth-like as the Gorn are would be equally as cool. I just want something fierce and menacing. We don't have that yet.
That's some wizards opinion. One I disagree with.