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Jack Emmert: STO "much bigger than City of Heroes ever was at its peak!"

betawatcherbetawatcher Member Posts: 2 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Ten Forward
Cryptic CEO Jack Emmert recently stated that STO is "much bigger than City of Heroes ever was at its peak!"

http://stonewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/jack-emmert-says-sto-is-much-bigger-than-city-of-heroes-ever-was-at-its-peak/

Apparently the game is doing pretty well :D
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Coming from a guy who claimed that (if memory served) something wasn't in a game on its launch, it does not make sense to introduce it, cause people won't use it anyways, I guess thats good.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Is it the same Jack Emmert that once said that microtransactions makes him want to die ? :o he looks pretty healthy to me :o
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Direct link without the self-promoting blogspam:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/634/feature/7129/Neverwinter-Get-Everything-You-Want-By-Playing.html
    Former moderator of these forums. Lifetime sub since before launch. Been here since before public betas. Foundry author of "Franklin Drake Must Die".
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    1) If anyone actually believes a word coming out of that guy's mouth, I have a bridge to sell them.

    2) Redirecting to a blog posting instead of the actual interview isn't going to win you any fans.
    syberghost wrote: »
    Direct link without the self-promoting blogspam:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/634/feature/7129/Neverwinter-Get-Everything-You-Want-By-Playing.html

    Thank you.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Jack's man enough to admit when he's wrong:
    Believe me, I was a subscription die-hard who had choice words for F2P, but the methodology behind quality free gaming design totally converted me.
    Former moderator of these forums. Lifetime sub since before launch. Been here since before public betas. Foundry author of "Franklin Drake Must Die".
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    Jack's man enough to admit when he's wrong:

    OR... He got a bonus for saying that... Somehow he seems to me like a man that would do that.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • betawatcherbetawatcher Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    valoreah wrote: »
    Why would that come as a surprise to him? Star Trek's IP has an enormous fan base compared to the CoH IP. This is like being surprised the sky is blue.

    It's good to hear the game is doing well though. :)

    I think you are forgetting the fact that COH was the first major superhero MMORPG. So regardless of the specific IP it was based on, it attracted all types superhero fans(DC, Marvel, etc). While the Trek IP has a large fanbase, I wouldnt say its larger than all the fanbases attracted by the first superhero MMO.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    anazonda wrote: »
    OR... He got a bonus for saying that... Somehow he seems to me like a man that would do that.

    Considering they're apparently selling LTS'es for Neverwinter without giving them any sort of currency consideration...
  • generator88generator88 Member Posts: 698 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    If I could have saved COH by shoving this game into a warp core breach, that would be a done deed and I'd never lose a minute's sleep.

    The lengths Jack seems to occasionally go to so that he can dump on his own previous work really perplex me sometimes.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    Considering they're apparently selling LTS'es for Neverwinter without giving them any sort of currency consideration...

    I am not sure I know what that means... Elaborate please?
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    anazonda wrote: »
    I am not sure I know what that means... Elaborate please?

    No stipend. Pony up your hundreds of bucks and get just as screwed by the equivalent of their dilith market as everyone else.

    Basically, a lifetime sub without the benefits of a sub (unless I'm grossly misreading things).
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    No stipend. Pony up your hundreds of bucks and get just as screwed by the equivalent of their dilith market as everyone else.

    Basically, a lifetime sub without the benefits of a sub (unless I'm grossly misreading things).

    Well i guess that confirms my theory that Subs are now unwanted by Cryptic.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Hell, I've known that for over a year now.

    Also: That's great, Jack. For what it's worth, those of us who stuck with CoH until the end - and saw it become, IMO, a much better game after you moved on - don't miss you either.
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    Considering they're apparently selling LTS'es for Neverwinter without giving them any sort of currency consideration...

    That isn't happening. You cannot purchase a subscription, lifetime or otherwise, to Neverwinter. No such subscription exists, and as the linked article reiterates, none is expected to ever exist.

    What you can purchase is a bundle of account unlocks for a discounted price. Discounted off of what they're expected to cost, or what equivalent items in the case of the exclusives, are expected to cost in the store after launch.
    Former moderator of these forums. Lifetime sub since before launch. Been here since before public betas. Foundry author of "Franklin Drake Must Die".
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    Direct link without the self-promoting blogspam:

    ROTFL !!!
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    valoreah wrote: »
    So? I would bet Trek has a larger fanbase internationally than US comic superheros do. CoH wasn't based on anything from Marvel or DC, so you didn't see any of the signature characters like Batman and Superman in it. Were that true, CoH would've had subs counted in the millions. It didn't have anything even close to that number.

    The Avengers alone has very nearly taken in as much money, adjusted for inflation, as all the Star Trek movies combined, including 2009.

    If you don't adjust for inflation, it's blown them out of the water.
    Former moderator of these forums. Lifetime sub since before launch. Been here since before public betas. Foundry author of "Franklin Drake Must Die".
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  • cptvanorcptvanor Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    valoreah wrote: »
    Were that true, CoH would've had subs counted in the millions.

    No it wouldn't, DCU is plenty of proof of that. Not to mention that Marvel has scrapped 2 different concepts for MMO's.
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    That isn't happening. You cannot purchase a subscription, lifetime or otherwise, to Neverwinter. No such subscription exists, and as the linked article reiterates, none is expected to ever exist.

    What you can purchase is a bundle of account unlocks for a discounted price. Discounted off of what they're expected to cost, or what equivalent items in the case of the exclusives, are expected to cost in the store after launch.

    It's a sub by another name, except this time they don't have to actually give the buyer anything after the initial purchase. Everyone here knows Neverwinter is going to be nothing but a parade of cash-shop catastrophes, and Cryptic is positioning themselves in such a way so that they can suck money from everyone in equal measure, instead of paying lip service to the idea that subscribers (lifetime or otherwise) get something extra.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Of course Star Trek Online is much bigger than City of Heroes. We have to travel thousands of light years to get anywhere. City of Heroes is pretty much confined to a couple of Cities, a bunch of islands, and a few cities in other realities where we only have access to a few blocks. I wouldn't be surprised if all of City of Heroes was confined to the size of a State. In fact Star Trek Online is even bigger than most MMOs. Eve might be bigger than Star Trek Online, but I don't play that game so I am not sure. The Old Republic is close to this game in terms of size, but its effective travel size is much smaller since everything is automated.
  • kyuui13kyuui13 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    IF anyone has any Questions on Jack, I have one thing to say

    "Two full factions......"

    I do believe, we're STILL, waiting on this.

    Jack, is not a reliable source.
    Next time you log in, ask yourself this.
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  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    In fact Star Trek Online is even bigger than most MMOs.

    Errrr... No?
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    The Avengers alone has very nearly taken in as much money, adjusted for inflation, as all the Star Trek movies combined, including 2009.

    If you don't adjust for inflation, it's blown them out of the water.
    Is that some of that new maths?

    http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm

    http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=avengers.htm
  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Heh, right. I doubt the fanbase of this game would fight as tooth and nail as the one from CoH did (and still is) if it died.
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    captsol wrote: »
    Heh, right. I doubt the fanbase of this game would fight as tooth and nail as the one from CoH did (and still is) if it died.

    They'd be stepping over each other's corpses to be the first one to say, "I told you so! This is what happens when you don't stick to Gene's vision. Narf!"
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  • pompoulusspompouluss Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Errrr... No?

    Far as I can tell he's measuring the size of the game world in make-believe light years.

    Which.

    I don't know. I just don't know sometimes.
  • lordxenitelordxenite Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    betawatcher wrote: »
    Cryptic CEO Jack Emmert recently stated that STO is "much bigger than City of Heroes ever was at its peak!"
    How could it not? You put STAR TREK and FREE together and you think people won't come? :rolleyes:

    Another point to consider, what does "BIGGER" mean exactly? :o
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