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zarxidejacko
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In MAY
Romulans will need
All romulan ships from curret game and...
1000 day veteran ship
3 Temporal ships from lockbox
2 year anniversary ship (Bort\Ody equivalent)
3 year anniversary ship ( T3 )
Captain's Yacht type shuttle reward
Species:
Romulan
Reman
Libirated borg
Alien
Caitian\Ferasan Z-Store equivalent (maybe non cat race)
Uniform for all of them.
Fleet system
Fully functional starbase with all T1-T5 construction models.
Embassy ( this is universal so no problem)
Both will take about year for fresh started fleets to complete full T5 if faction released in May
Doff system
Faction based assigments, remeber kdf and fed have many different from each other themed missions.
Capital city\starbase.
Romulan Academy like zone.
All FE dialogs rewrite.
If faction will start even from lvl 30-40:
Faction specific missions. Loads of them, and i am talking about copy\paste ones not even about rsomething really new, imagine work with all those texts, contact npcs etc...
PvP
It will be slaughter first months at level 50 without damage done\recieved accolades, fleet ships\gear\weapons, stf rep gear, funky consoles. Looks pretty onesided for me and Romies not on winning side.
I think i forgot something but question is...Do you really think Cryptic can do it even for end of May while adding more things for fed\kdf(lol) those 3 months ? All i can imagine for may is faction divied for KDF and FED sides.
But if Cryptic can pull out Real faction it will be miracle like event!
Romulans will need
All romulan ships from curret game and...
1000 day veteran ship
3 Temporal ships from lockbox
2 year anniversary ship (Bort\Ody equivalent)
3 year anniversary ship ( T3 )
Captain's Yacht type shuttle reward
Species:
Romulan
Reman
Libirated borg
Alien
Caitian\Ferasan Z-Store equivalent (maybe non cat race)
Uniform for all of them.
Fleet system
Fully functional starbase with all T1-T5 construction models.
Embassy ( this is universal so no problem)
Both will take about year for fresh started fleets to complete full T5 if faction released in May
Doff system
Faction based assigments, remeber kdf and fed have many different from each other themed missions.
Capital city\starbase.
Romulan Academy like zone.
All FE dialogs rewrite.
If faction will start even from lvl 30-40:
Faction specific missions. Loads of them, and i am talking about copy\paste ones not even about rsomething really new, imagine work with all those texts, contact npcs etc...
PvP
It will be slaughter first months at level 50 without damage done\recieved accolades, fleet ships\gear\weapons, stf rep gear, funky consoles. Looks pretty onesided for me and Romies not on winning side.
I think i forgot something but question is...Do you really think Cryptic can do it even for end of May while adding more things for fed\kdf(lol) those 3 months ? All i can imagine for may is faction divied for KDF and FED sides.
But if Cryptic can pull out Real faction it will be miracle like event!
2010 is my join date.
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old lockboxes wouldnt be redone for a new faction until a re-release of it happens, so no need to worry about the temporal ships at the start.
2 year anniversary ship would be Cstore only since the 2nd anniversary event cant be replayed like the 3rd can. so again, that one likely wont happen at launch.
anything planned for the Cstore would likely be released AFTEr the faction is released and see how it fairs.
unless this faction is what a lot of the staff has been working on since the bulk of Season 7 was released. if only a small handful have been the ones doing the events/lockboxes, that would still leave a decent number of the 50+ current employees to work on a new faction.
- "Romulan Academy" for Doffing and Events like Anniversaries
- Romulan Mirror Event
- complete Revamp of DS9 / Defera / Nukura and even New Romulus to inculde Romulans in STFs/Reputation etc
True but how exactly :
FE 1 : that's the one that actually could make sense ...
FE 2 : What are Romulans doing in the FED/KDF "Neutral Zone" (they might have to revamp the whole Sector Map for this)
FE 3 : Well if it's gonna be Mol Rihan Romulans, it could make sense ... if you're gonna play "evil" Tal Shiar Romulans ... you probably might have to fight against yourself here
FE 4 : Again Romulans on a FED Spacestation, ok KDF is there too, but thats because of "Omega Force" ...
... FE4 might make sense if Romulans are gonna be in the Omega Force as well, so they gonna need unique STF Gear ... again only IF they're not gonna be Tal Shiar
not mentioning how PVP should work at all ...
1. FED vs FED
2. FED vs KDF
3. KDF vs KDF
4. ROM vs KDF
5. ROM vs ROM
6. FED vs ROM
PvP already sucks, but this is gonna kill it completely
I knew i forgot something xD
Fixing OP
I speak for myself when i say I want a Romulan faction I spent 2 years in this game happy before starbeses, I just want the faction the vet ship I could careless I want a Warbird lock box ships don't care I want a warbird. Doffs I don't think would be hard
That leaves STFs well....Let the Federation, and Klingons fight the Borg and then when they are exhausted I will wipe them out with my Warbird.:D
Consider they had three years to release a real kdf faction and still have not done it. Not going to happen.
Some of the stuff you mentioned is already in game, really. For example,
Some changes would need to be made to incorporate Romulans into STFs and Fleet Events. As for PvP, well, since the whole thing needs a revamp, I wouldn't hold out any hopes for it being made better for the release of a Romulan faction.
It's still a lot of work, but consider that this is arguably the most requested thing by the STO fanbase, and that there's perhaps not quite as much work as it first might seem.
If Cryptic are smart, they can add Romulans 1-20 and Finish off the KDF in one;
Doing this would allow them to;
Yes, players will speed through levels 1-20, then complain they have nothing to do, but that's nothing new, it happens in every MMO, every game. They'll just have longer to wait 'til the next expansion.
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Those 2 things would be 100% worthy of an expansion price tag.
Season 7 not so much.
I'm hoping for at least a few introductory missions setting the stage and story for some minor leveling missions across maybe ten to twenty levels from the 30/40 to 50 range.
Homeworld to be Rator with the appropriate starbase and maybe even some sort of Advanced College of Tactics to serve as an academy of sorts.
Doff missions would not really be all that difficult to do but would be a nice-to-have.
I wouldn't mind some sort of 1000 day vet ship for Rommies but that would be a nice-to-have.
Rommies can get a 4th anniversary ship NEXT year.
I really just want the green faction and for it to be separate from the red and blue factions.
Once the groundwork is laid and Commanders are cloaking their way across the Alpha quadrant in their Warbirds, then other things can be added or expanded.
I've been waiting over 3yrs for the Romulans to become a playable faction in STO.
For myself and those of my fellow Romulan fans that have been waiting so long, it's high time we were allowed to "March Beneath the Raptor's Wings".
Oh boy ... this Thread started promising ... and now is already back to "I'm just gonna ignore reality, including the whole point of this Thread, because i want to play Rommies ..." ... amazing
20 Levels of Gameplay would be like 20times of what we got in previous Season ...
Guess I'll be back for May to tell you "I told you so ... stop raging" :P
The only thing I'll be raging about is not having my very own blonde human woman as a concubine on my ship.
The key thing I said about the KDF/Rom missions was "on par with Fed missions levels 1-20".
Go back and play Fed missions levels 1-20. With a few exceptions (Stranded in Space, Diplomatic Orders, Doomsday Machine) most of those missions are very basic, nothing like the FEs. You can now create similar (if not better) missions in the foundry.
In fact, it could actually be quicker to do just that. Assets needed would have to be made first, but making them for the foundry first (or at the same time) would save having to convert them for community authors use.
It would also mean that more Cryptic staff could make the missions, not relying on those trained in their 'full-fat' toolset. Once made as foundry missions, they'd just need feeding through the 'spotlighter' and plugging into a mission tree.
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I'd be content to see the ships/races/and costumes we already have in-game. Anything extra will be icing on the cake from my perspective.
As far as leveling and missions go...it would be tough for them to come up with a full-fledged levelling arc in a short span of time (or at least an interesting one), but there are plenty of avenues for acquiring XP already out there that could be made accessible to any future faction. I think that an excellerated XP reward for doing New Romulus missions would work as well for the new faction.
The KDF crowd (of which I count myself among) has elements within it that will rail against whatever is done with the Rommies if they think they haven't gotten their proppers beforehand. There's not much we can do about that other than try not to let them ruin our enjoyment of the new treats that come out of the Dev-Zone.
Join our cause now!
My Warbird will have a few words with you then in May. :P
Either way I win....We get KDF content...i win...we get more FED content I win, we get Romulans I Win, if we get awesome new stuff...I win...no matter what happens in May i win....Because it's new
A romulan faction would take a tremendous amount of work, I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
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Actually, in an interesting, if indirect way, this'd actually be very fitting in with their story. The Romulans are re-building, so it actually makes a lot of honest sense for them to not have all the top-of-the-line stuff.
Just wanted to mention that.
It's totally an FE. Everyone is off their rockers with this faction talk.
Admiral Level D'Deridex class warbird with a Tactical based layout.
Don't want Cryptic to turn the D'Deridex into a new Galaxy Retro. A ship everyone wants. But ultimately unplayable or difficult to play.
I also don't see why a cat race is a necessity at all. Caitians are canon and the Ferasan are a Kzinti homage. There's nothing even remotely close to that for Romulans. But I guess some people just really like being cats. *shrug*
OP did forget to mention Hirogen as a race, but I suppose they wouldn't be necessary on release day either, so long as they find their way to the C-Store eventually.
Otherwise it's a fairly solid list of concerns. I could see it being doable in six to nine months if they halted just about everything else and put all 50-something employees to work on it. But that would mean another drought like in 2011 when they revamped every mission to scale with the player (and myriad other F2P alterations), which they did with something like 23(?) people. Incidentally, if they've been planning this since S7 came out, the May launch window would be around seven months, which is inside the timetable...
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We ll rebuild Romulan Star Empire for romulan nation only !!!!
any other solution had to be TRIBBLE!
Please cryptic don't ruin romulans as you ruined Federation & Klingon Empire.
A vet ship early on would be nice, and the fleet stuff should be easy enough to do. The vet ship would have a plasma lotus I would assume?
Romulans and KDF should be available at the beginning of the game though.
FED vs KDF vs RSE vs Enemy ~ 4 players per faction, fighting in a scenario where there is only one team win. The losing teams would still get rewards, though not as much. If such were for Omega Marks (example) then the winning team would get 100 marks, and the losing teams get 50 marks each. Just for an example mind...
I don't get either why people want only a pure-romulan faction. Klingons should be pure, but they're not. Factions need some variety, and there is variety to be had. If people don't want to play with anything other than Romulan or Reman, then that's great, for them. They can create a pure Romulan (or Reman) crew. I still believe though that the option for other races should be there for those of us that want them. Species such as the Suliban, Hirogen, Vulcan, Vaudwaar, Fen Domar, Son'a, Cardassian etc.