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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ahh, gotcha :) I have to admit, the specific event itself didn't really matter, as the sense of impending dread was certainly more than enough to carry the story

    I agree about the sense of foreboding. In some ways I would say hfmudd and I went into similar emotional territory, though with the huge difference that in my case the subject of my writing had already happened.

    It's interesting, though...I considered writing the opening of World War III as well, when I started getting nervous about my initial idea. It was only when I realized I could get away with an extremely minimalist storytelling strategy that I decided to go forward with my own idea.

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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    And I liked your story, gulberat. It was very well written and definitely had an influence on mine.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    hfmudd wrote: »
    Not in my entries, but in past Trek. grylak already identified Rain ; a little research on Memory Alpha and/or Beta (with particular attention to "Assignment: Earth", "City on the Edge of Forever", and "Future's End") should fill in the rest of the context for you. (You'd probably have to watch the episode to get why she misses Saturn. :( )

    I had to think for a while on what the crew would be doing there before I came up with "Project Alexandria." There are other teams, of course, doing much the same all over the world. The coolest part, to my mind, is that they know exactly what they can safely take - everything that history records as being lost. :)

    Ahh, Rain Robinson was an awesome character, I just wondered if that had been some kind of codename, but awesome to see that she's doing useful things :)

    I think it's a fantastic idea, and can't think of anything more tragic than lost knowledge, or intentional book burnings (as a student, I hated even making notes on pages) I kept my entry pretty much in line with the LC guideline, I think for the next challenge, I might see if I can simply write something 'inspired by' part of the guidelines, like this entry :)
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gulberat wrote: »
    I agree about the sense of foreboding. In some ways I would say hfmudd and I went into similar emotional territory, though with the huge difference that in my case the subject of my writing had already happened.

    It's interesting, though...I considered writing the opening of World War III as well, when I started getting nervous about my initial idea. It was only when I realized I could get away with an extremely minimalist storytelling strategy that I decided to go forward with my own idea.
    Definitely, and you both handled it fantastically, two thoroughly enjoyable reads :)
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    HA! VICTORY IS MINE!!!! well... not yet any way... but soon maybe?

    I've been having a hard time trying to think of something for this one when suddenly out of no where an idea hit me and stuck. Needless to say bad timing as it's 1:14 am, but i'm going to go get a drink and start working in this right now. Hopefully i'll have it up sooner than later.
  • squatsaucesquatsauce Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    HA! VICTORY IS MINE!!!! well... not yet any way... but soon maybe?

    Confirming ownership of Victory.
  • bereggaberegga Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Notes on my entry: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8000031&postcount=15

    I'm blatantly taking multiple historical liberties with Warhol's Factory here. Klaus Nomi was a countertenor and early New Wave performance artist of the 70s and early 80s who used post-apocalyptic science fiction utopianism in his stage shows before he was "discovered." I've always wanted to do a fic based on the premise that Nomi, George Clinton, the B52s, Sun Ra, and/or David Bowie are/were aliens or had alien contacts. However, Nomi arrived in NYC after Warhol was shot and became a bit more reclusive, so the dates don't quite match up for this scene.

    A liberty I took with Star Trek lore is the existence of cognates for "captain" that a person with a passing familiarity in multiple 20th century languages might recognize.

    The ship is named for Joan Slonczewski, biologist and science fiction author.

    Patrick is, unfortunately, taking his cues from David Bowie's 1979 SNL appearance, which featured Klaus Nomi on background vocals. Since his "history" is mostly derived from holodeck reconstructions of 20th-century television, his recommendations are laughably incorrect.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    beregga wrote: »
    Notes on my entry: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8000031&postcount=15

    I'm blatantly taking multiple historical liberties with Warhol's Factory here. Klaus Nomi was a countertenor and early New Wave performance artist of the 70s and early 80s who used post-apocalyptic science fiction utopianism in his stage shows before he was "discovered." I've always wanted to do a fic based on the premise that Nomi, George Clinton, the B52s, Sun Ra, and/or David Bowie are/were aliens or had alien contacts. However, Nomi arrived in NYC after Warhol was shot and became a bit more reclusive, so the dates don't quite match up for this scene.

    A liberty I took with Star Trek lore is the existence of cognates for "captain" that a person with a passing familiarity in multiple 20th century languages might recognize.

    The ship is named for Joan Slonczewski, biologist and science fiction author.

    Patrick is, unfortunately, taking his cues from David Bowie's 1979 SNL appearance, which featured Klaus Nomi on background vocals. Since his "history" is mostly derived from holodeck reconstructions of 20th-century television, his recommendations are laughably incorrect.
    Welcome, and thanks for sharing your entry :) I had wondered if the albino tribble was referring to Andy Warhol, but the other references I did not twig (which is equally good, as it means the reader is not beaten over the head with them :D ) Ironically, I very nearly had the crew contact World Enterprises and Thomas Newton, but I felt that his company was not quite as focused on engineering as Stark Industries :) (I also want David Bowie to play the 12th Doctor :cool: )
  • jocelyn2jocelyn2 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2013
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    @ hfmudd - Brilliant piece! Very well done :)

    @beregga - With your explination above, the piece was made more clear. I enjoyed it and look forward to more from you :)

    I'm still doing a little catch up and rereading here.
  • ironphoenix113ironphoenix113 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    FINALLY finished mine, after more hours than I care to admit of typing, editing, and near-rage-quitting :D. And the ending was just in time for Valentines too.

    A couple explanations: Yes, Ibalei is both a Trill and a Telepath. She has the telepathy trait in-game, so I figured I might as well make it part of my story here. Second, the Athena has four duty shifts: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. I wrote it this way primarily so that Bryan's crew always well rested and ready for duty. Although they don't survive long when the ship take a single hit for some reason :rolleyes:.

    For a general idea of the mood I want to convey in certain sections the following is the soundtrack I would use:

    Arriving in the Nebula: Thomas Bergersen; Color the Sky (Dreams and Imaginations)
    Crash landing: Jack Wall; The Collector Base (Mass Effect 2 OST)
    The Takeoff: Jack Wall; The Normandy Reborn (Mass Effect 2 OST)
    Back to the Future (no pun intended:rolleyes:): Jack Wall; Jump Drive (Mass Effect 2 OST) Have I mentioned that I like the music the guys at Bioware use?)
    Bryan's Proposal: Thomas Bergersen & Merethe Soltvedt; In Your Arms (Album Unknown)
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    FINALLY finished mine, after more hours than I care to admit of typing, editing, and near-rage-quitting :D. And the ending was just in time for Valentines too.

    A couple explanations: Yes, Ibalei is both a Trill and a Telepath. She has the telepathy trait in-game, so I figured I might as well make it part of my story here. Second, the Athena has four duty shifts: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. I wrote it this way primarily so that Bryan's crew always well rested and ready for duty. Although they don't survive long when the ship take a single hit for some reason :rolleyes:.

    For a general idea of the mood I want to convey in certain sections the following is the soundtrack I would use:

    Arriving in the Nebula: Thomas Bergersen; Color the Sky (Dreams and Imaginations)
    Crash landing: Jack Wall; The Collector Base (Mass Effect 2 OST)
    The Takeoff: Jack Wall; The Normandy Reborn (Mass Effect 2 OST)
    Back to the Future (no pun intended:rolleyes:): Jack Wall; Jump Drive (Mass Effect 2 OST) Have I mentioned that I like the music the guys at Bioware use?)
    Bryan's Proposal: Thomas Bergersen & Merethe Soltvedt; In Your Arms (Album Unknown)
    Fantastic entry, only one thing seemed incongruous... As Bryan and Ibalei had been renting the apartment for a few weeks, pushing the crew to get the job done 50 minutes quicker didn't quite seem right, as there hadn't been any previous time contraints. Maybe having the submarine arriving before giving the order to get all hands on the pump, might make Bryan's urgency make more sense :)
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Marcusdkane said it right. ;)

    Still, its a great entry :) I think it is very cool you are advancing the characters both in-game and in fluff.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    hfmudd: Not sure what you had in mind for the soundtrack of your story, but I took the liberty of choosing a song that in my opinion really captures the foreboding and the sadness of your story. (It also seems to fit New York City itself.) Trust me...just listen to the whole thing. There are only a few lyrics, but when they hit...wow. :(

    That song is Porcupine Tree, "3." ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GytDHQtVTXw )


    For my entry, I have a few songs that influenced me as I wrote.

    "Valtari" by Sigur Ros. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DnPtTzUb9s (An instrumental that says everything, emotionally, that needs to be said. The song doesn't go anywhere, to speak of. It simply is a place and a time.)

    "Svyati" by John Tavener: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P4UwGNdOT4 (I can imagine Alyosha listening to this in his quarters back on board his ship, as he tries to narrate this log, constantly backing up, deleting his work, and trying again until he is finally able to say something that he feels does at least some justice--or at least doesn't do an injustice--to the hallowed place where he stood.)

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  • hfmuddhfmudd Member Posts: 881 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gulberat wrote: »
    hfmudd: Not sure what you had in mind for the soundtrack of your story
    I hadn't considered it, and I'm flattered that you took the time to. I also think you chose well. Thanks!
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  • ironphoenix113ironphoenix113 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    @ marcus

    As usual, ty For the suggestion :D Looking back over my story, I would definatly have to agree with you that it doesn't quite flow right. Of course I was usually writing these late at night, so that was probably not conducive to my writing :rolleyes:.

    EDIT: Adding some links for the music I used:

    Color the Sky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CveV2gkTj64
    The Collector Base: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFf60ECWpzU
    The Normandy Reborn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXCM0lZxh4U
    Jump Drive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWYQY-EEnw
    In Your Arms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQCXPXL4Os
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  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Hey everyone. I just want to say that I love the idea of a regular literary challenge, and I'll try to write/post my own bit shortly. Just as soon as I (1) think of what time period to land in New York in (other than the WW2 era), and (2) what I could use as the explanation for the time travel other than a random subspace anomaly.

    By the way, when's the closing date for this literary challenge?
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  • ironphoenix113ironphoenix113 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    @ambassadormolari

    First of all, let me say welcome! It's always nice to get another new face around here :) Second, I believe this LC ends on this Tuesday. You can, however, still post your own entry even after it does get taken down. Thirdly, your forum name is awesome :D
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  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    @ambassadormolari

    First of all, let me say welcome! It's always nice to get another new face around here :) Second, I believe this LC ends on this Tuesday. You can, however, still post your own entry even after it does get taken down. Thirdly, your forum name is awesome :D

    Excellent! I'd better get writing, then!
    And by all means, from now on, feel free to mentally read all of my posts in Londo's voice. :D
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Excellent! I'd better get writing, then!
    And by all means, from now on, feel free to mentally read all of my posts in Londo's voice. :D

    Yes, you should and welcome!

    As for Londo's voice ... awesomesauce :)
  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Right, I've gone ahead and posted the first part of my entry. I'll probably go back and add to it, either in the original post or a successive one, whichever is allowed. Criticism and comments are always welcome.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Right, I've gone ahead and posted the first part of my entry. I'll probably go back and add to it, either in the original post or a successive one, whichever is allowed. Criticism and comments are always welcome.
    Loved it :D Of course, I'm curious as to Nair's species, and the class of the DaVinci but other than that, no other critique beyond it finished too damn soon :D

    PS Welcome to the party :)
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I look forward to seeing the rest, and I am also interested in knowing about Nair's species.

    In addition, I wanted to point out that from the start, he comes off as someone with a good head on his shoulders and sound command/management training, which I do not always see in fanfics (in any venue). That definitely caught my attention about him.

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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    @ marcus

    As usual, ty For the suggestion :D Looking back over my story, I would definatly have to agree with you that it doesn't quite flow right. Of course I was usually writing these late at night, so that was probably not conducive to my writing.

    EDIT: Adding some links for the music I used:

    Color the Sky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CveV2gkTj64
    The Collector Base: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFf60ECWpzU
    The Normandy Reborn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXCM0lZxh4U
    Jump Drive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGWYQY-EEnw
    In Your Arms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQCXPXL4Os

    You're very welcome, it was the one thing which didn't quite flow, but other than that, a fine entry :) I know what you mean though, I've lost count of the amount of times I've written something, then re-read it and seen something that needed revision :D

    On another note, I was wondering if you saw the Academy Days addition I posted last week, and had any thoughts on it? CmdrScarlet had asked about Captain Palmer's near expulsion from the Academy, so I decided to write it up :)
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    On another note, I was wondering if you saw the Academy Days addition I posted last week, and had any thoughts on it? CmdrScarlet had asked about Captain Palmer's near expulsion from the Academy, so I decided to write it up :)

    I missed this and just finished - Nice! And that explains that. :)

    Hmm. I had not thought to go back and add an entry to the previous LCs ...

    Hmmmmmm!
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I missed this and just finished - Nice! And that explains that. :)

    Hmm. I had not thought to go back and add an entry to the previous LCs ...

    Hmmmmmm!
    Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it, and that it hopefully showed another side to Amanda Palmer than just a seasoned captain :)

    I was just looking back through the LCs, and saw that while the challenge had passed, people were still invited to add entries, and thought that was the ideal way to address your comment about the unpublished story :)
  • ironphoenix113ironphoenix113 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    You're very welcome, it was the one thing which didn't quite flow, but other than that, a fine entry :) I know what you mean though, I've lost count of the amount of times I've written something, then re-read it and seen something that needed revision :D

    On another note, I was wondering if you saw the Academy Days addition I posted last week, and had any thoughts on it? CmdrScarlet had asked about Captain Palmer's near expulsion from the Academy, so I decided to write it up :)

    Yea, I did see it actually. Quite a good read, as usual ;) Which gives me an idea to write an entry on how Bryan and Ibalei met at the academy...
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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    This one seemed to be more than a pain in the butt than i'd prefer it to be, and if i could have done it longer i would have tried to fill in more. It's not quite what i wanted it to be, so sadly not as victorious as i'd originally thought. I did it in a different style as a first attempt at dialog which i admit was a great suggestion because it kind of switched things up a little more for me. It's not as good as i wanted it to be, but they can't all be winners. I would have loved to add in more good cop bad cop as well as add more to the event in question, but it was already running long.


    As a side note, i always write these on writing app then copy them over and i'm still having the question marks pop up although this time it was erratic and didn't replace all of the " and ' but just some here and there. It was a bit weird.


    Any ways, as always questions, comments, and feedback are always welcome.
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Well, Wraith, you definitely took my challenge to write dialogue and ran with it! :D

    I could hear the tone of everybody in that room just perfectly (and as individual, distinct personalities), and I think my favorite moment was Wraith finally asking what I'm sure every reader must've had on their mind: how that virulently racist, maladjusted Johnson actually had a job.

    I wonder if the evidence of this stunt will get Johnson fired? Which will then lead to his going rogue, which will set up the whole causality loop... ;)

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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Yea, I did see it actually. Quite a good read, as usual ;) Which gives me an idea to write an entry on how Bryan and Ibalei met at the academy...
    I'm glad you enjoyed it :) It was quite fun to show Amanda's less than perfect past, and some of the events which helped mould her into the officer she became, as well as better defining her relationship to Marcus, as maybe not quite a father-figure, but more like an older brother, as she reacts to his physical appearance, rather than chronological age. If you do write that entry, be sure to post up a link to it :cool:
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