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JJ gone ? Good Trek coming?

jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Ten Forward
With JJ directing Star Wars, all I can say is that the way he made Star Trek bad, he is going to make star wars bad (It is already not a good show, but I do want it being ruined like Trek was). Although, it may be the right style for it. With JJ gone, we may finally have some proper Trek. And a new series would be cooler, because there would be more to watch.
Star Trek has 727 episodes (inc. films)
Star Wars has ... 6? Pitiful

I am going to send Paramount Studios a HAND WRITTEN letter, begging them for some proper Trek, and I am sure you guys would not mind me doing that.
But this is not going to work if one kid sends one letter
I need you guys to pressurise them too
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Considering that CBS is staunchly blocking any attempt to bring the Ent-J into our game, and that the tradition is that the next Star Trek cameos in the last few seasons of the previous one...

    ...someone is making a new Star Trek, and it is about the J. And NOT the JJ. :D


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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    Considering that CBS is staunchly blocking any attempt to bring the Ent-J into our game, and that the tradition is that the next Star Trek cameos in the last few seasons of the previous one...

    ...someone is making a new Star Trek, and it is about the J. And NOT the JJ. :D

    I'm not sure I follow your logic here...the reason the J isn't and will not be in game isn't CBS. dStahl already told us the reason, and the reason is because the ship is friggin massive. Seriously, that ship is bigger than earth space dock.
  • rachel1018rachel1018 Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Your math is actually off on Star Wars, pretty severely. You didn't count the Clone Wars stuff and that horrible holiday special. 141 total Star Wars Episodes still pales in comparison to Star Trek, just want your count accurate on both sides is all.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    hravik wrote: »
    I'm not sure I follow your logic here...the reason the J isn't and will not be in game isn't CBS. dStahl already told us the reason, and the reason is because the ship is friggin massive. Seriously, that ship is bigger than earth space dock.
    Stahl confirmed on Tribble today that CBS has nixed the J, we're already on a different path anyway as our Enterprise - F looks nothing like the one the studio proposed, it's just as well, the J is too big and too fragile looking, I wouldn't want one, it's turn rate and maneuvering would make the Odyssey's look like that of a Ferrari, that and the fact it looks like a giant crystal pancake griddle.
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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Stahl confirmed on Tribble today that CBS has nixed the J

    Well then, he changed his story. Up until now he's been telling us that it was just too big for the game, even in his last interview just a few days ago.
  • mingtran2mingtran2 Member Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Seeing how most fans hate JJ Star Trek because it's too much like Star Wars, going to guess he won't mess up Star Wars as badly, after seeing the Prequals can safly assume it can't get any worse. Tho, if he wants to TRIBBLE off Star Wars Fans too, he could make his Star Wars more like Star Trek.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I thought that I saw a statement from Paramount that JJ was still under contract for at least one more movie that has not changed. So don't get you hopes up too much.

    PS: I personally liked the new Star Trek.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    hravik wrote: »
    Well then, he changed his story. Up until now he's been telling us that it was just too big for the game, even in his last interview just a few days ago.

    I think its a combination of Both. even if CBS said yes, the logistics of making it to its corrst size stops the idea anyway.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    Star Trek has 727 episodes (inc. films)
    Star Wars has ... 6? Pitiful

    Clone Wars: 25 episodes
    The Clone Wars: 104 (with more coming)
    Ewoks: 39 episodes
    Droids: 15 episodes
    +
    The Clone Wars Film
    Caravan of Courage Film
    The Battle for Endor Film
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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  • lordagamemnonb5lordagamemnonb5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Don't know wht OP was talking about, ST2009 was good Trek.
    How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
    Star Trek: The Original Grind
    Star Trek: The Next Grind
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    Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
  • captnurntumbercaptnurntumber Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    hravik wrote: »
    I'm not sure I follow your logic here...the reason the J isn't and will not be in game isn't CBS. dStahl already told us the reason, and the reason is because the ship is friggin massive. Seriously, that ship is bigger than earth space dock.

    I think theres a better reason for that, one that the powers that be probably won't admit.....(bear in mind, I know this is going to make people upset).....

    The Enterprise-J is kinda stupid. If its from the future it would technically be "god-mode" in the game. Theres already enough incredible magic-tech in trek. On paper it might sound cool, but in a dramatic series I don't see it being very interesting.

    Granted, this is my personal opinion, but I am sick to death of trek time travel. If I could go back in time I'd erase any reference of the temporal cold war in Trek history....it was the dumbest part of Enterprise ever concieved.

    (sorry Enterprise-J fans, but I really have a deep hatred for the very idea of that ship)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    the J was a cool idea as to what might be... beyond that, it's a bit.... meh.

    Anyways.... the 2009 movie was not a bad movie. I thought it was a worthy modernization myself. But anyways, it got a sequel. :) YESSS!!!! more STAR TREK! :p

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  • captnurntumbercaptnurntumber Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    the J was a cool idea as to what might be... beyond that, it's a bit.... meh.

    Anyways.... the 2009 movie was not a bad movie. I thought it was a worthy modernization myself. But anyways, it got a sequel. :) YESSS!!!! more STAR TREK! :p

    You will watch it. Resistance is Futile.
    There are plenty of things I didn't like about the 2009 movie, but I'd watch it before I watch the one where the original crew gores to look for god.
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  • user839020189287user839020189287 Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    the fact that JJ inserted droids from Star Wars into the film blows all that out of the water.

    You know what Easter Eggs are, right? ;)

    As an exercise in the art of the compromise, I will agree that it was odd to see that droid. Was really not expecting that.

    Perhaps artists need to stick to inserting genitalia into their work instead of cross-referencing other pop culture icons? Blame them imo.

    JJTrek brought me back to the IP. I was at a remote location at the time and had a copy to entertain me. Was one of the reasons I pre-ordered STO, tbh. Got some crappy point defense console instead of the red matter one... grrrr... but I digress.

    The new movie looks to be recycling more of the first and appears to be not too original. Ooo, Earth is threatened again by a certain individual and this time it's different! LOL

    Funny how Star trek has turned into a license to print money instead of promoting better sci-fi and intelligent entertainment for thinking people.

    Will wait for the pirate copy. Arrggh. Argggh. *slaps a cabin boy just for fun*
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  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The original Star Wars with Mark Hamill was pretty good. But I don't like the new one with Jar Jar Binks.

    I don't know. J.J. might do a good Star Wars. He seems to like action and special effects and that means more lightsaber battles and ship combat sequences. So it would be more of an action movie Star Wars. That might appeal to people, heck I would probably watch it just to see who the new Sith Lords are. Haha one should be Luke Skywalker's kid, and Luke doesn't find out until the 3rd movie (hopefully they do 3 in a row, like they have done before)

    What I don't like about him is he seems to really rush the story along. Do any of you watch Fringe? The last episode of Fringe could easily have been broken up into 3 or 4 full-sized episodes. He squished it all together that bad. I almost felt dizzy how fast some of the conversation sequences went. One moment they are standing around talking at one place, the next moment they are somewhere else being shot at. He needs to slow down and flesh out his stories some more.

    However as a Trek fan I have to say: YAY JJ IS GONE!
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I thought ST2009 was a good popcorn film and I'm glad it was successful in reviving the franchise, but I do hope the next official series and/or movies will be more like what we saw in DS9 and ENT. They had great formulas that would work for modern audiences today.
    the fact that JJ inserted droids from Star Wars into the film blows all that out of the water.

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    Darth Vader's grave was seen in "Sub Rosa". (pic)

    Just because he put an Easter Egg in the movie doesn't de-canonize it.
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  • nikkyvixnikkyvix Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    scififan78 wrote: »
    I thought that I saw a statement from Paramount that JJ was still under contract for at least one more movie that has not changed. So don't get you hopes up too much.

    PS: I personally liked the new Star Trek.

    I was thinking on this myself. It seemed the OP was making the assumption that just because Abrams has been tapped to helm Episode 7, this somehow means he can't make any more Star Trek films.

    Which is a wholly fan-centric view of how movies are made.

    Abrams will make Star Wars Episode 7 and is still under contract for Star Trek, and I'm okay with that. On a personal note: I grew up with Prime Trek, TMP onward. I'm in STO because I love and cherish Prime Trek. I also was able to enjoy Abrams Trek when I saw it and I bought the DVD and watch it from time to time. Abrams Trek isn't threatening my beloved Prime Trek, not if the books and other media still released on Prime has anything to suggest about it. Oh, and there's that silly little game called Star Trek Online which is 99.9% Prime Trek and has established the idea that Abrams Trek is one of the many alternate realities from Prime Trek.

    Methinks the bigger quandary is the animosity towards Abrams I see but don't understand. Maybe it's because I wasn't familiar with Abrams' material prior to Abrams Trek? I didn't get to see how he apparently butchered Lost or other television shows, thus coloring his name in fecal chocolate for all eternity with others?

    To the OP: Let's try'n be a bit more inclusive about our idea for what Star Trek can be. Abrams has his vision, that's fine. Especially when more people than you think are in STO and learning about Prime Trek because of Abrams. And for the future survival and relevance of all things Star Trek, I find that good. :)
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    you DO know some films use barely visible stock photage because of time and budget constraints right? :rolleyes:

    If it were a time or budget constraint there were plenty of models they could have used, including ones designed specifically for that movie (Akira, Norway, Steamrunner, etc). They chose to use the Millenium Falcon as a joke.
    that's a far cry from putting in a stupid DROID

    If it were clearly visible and easy to notice on-screen I might agree. But the way it is, it's really no different than the aforementioned Millenium Falcon and Vader's grave. I personally never noticed it until it was pointed out on Memory Alpha.


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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2013
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    "Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2013
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    you DO know some films use barely visible stock photage because of time and budget constraints right? :rolleyes:

    that's a far cry from putting in a stupid DROID
    You really think those were stock footage? No. The scene with the MFalcon was new work done by ILM for the movie. Vader's grave was a prop created specifically for that episode.

    Seriously.... NO ONE agrees with your stance that the 2009 trek movie isn't canon. Give it a rest, or provide proof.
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  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I love lone fans who claim to represent the majority or even all Trekkies.

    I've known several of them.

    And based on the fact that STO is still here, that Trek '09 did very well and going by the amount of buzz Everything Blows Up I MEAN INTO DARKNESS is generating...

    ...they are wrong.

    To those special snowflakes: You are not some Trek-ical Messiah with legions of fans behind you, nor are people flocking to your view daily. You are loud, you are obnoxious and you are wrong.

    Sadly forums like this, and others allow them to preach into an empty oil-drum while the rest of us judge the new stuff based on it's own merits... not based on some near-autistic self-centered personal canon that can't be reasoned with.
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