If you read my message, you will see that the main problem is the licence... not the ship.
As I said, since the Kelvin was build before Nero joined the alternate timeline, it's technically canon, and not an issue on that point...
But yes... it was a very bad movie.
I agree with you on the part of the ship being canon. Even if Nero did not show up the Kelvin would have still been there. I do not agree that the movie was bad. I liked it a lot.
I agree with you on the part of the ship being canon. Even if Nero did not show up the Kelvin would have still been there. I do not agree that the movie was bad. I liked it a lot.
You don't have to agree with me... I can't force you to be right ^^ :P xD
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
At the end of the day, any Trekkies that give a care about Trek-Law will notice that Kelvin makes no logical sense. The Crew number and massive size asside!
This ship disobeys all Trek-Law in design; The most obvious one being that the ONE nacelle as opposed to Two+ has exaust/thrust coming out the back of it!
The more hardcore Trekkie you are, the less that ship or ANY of the Abram-Ships make sense.
It's on this basis that I think JJ made a great movie-Worst Trek... You can't respect a franchise by chucking out all of its Law!.. especailly a Science Fiction no less!
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Wait? A canon or soft canon one? I don't seem to remember that one...
If we count the Saladin the I am cool with it, but I don't remember a on-screen example of a single nacelle Starfleet ship, pre TNG.
If you can, please re-direct me there... I would like to add it to my memory banks.
(This was a serious, non-trolling request btw).
Technically it would be the Hermes since I don't believe you get a front-on schema of the Saladin like you do with the Hermes (to confirm that the ship in fact had only one nacelle).
You are correct in that there is no "On Screen" moment where one appears, but the sensor readouts are unambiguous as far as I'm concerned, even if it is only a bit appearance.
Technically it would be the Hermes since I don't believe you get a front-on schema of the Saladin like you do with the Hermes (to confirm that the ship in fact had only one nacelle).
You are correct in that there is no "On Screen" moment where one appears, but the sensor readouts are unambiguous as far as I'm concerned, even if it is only a bit appearance.
Schematic, sensor reading or battle scene... If it's been onscreen, its defined as hard canon.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
Of course that ship makes no sense either since without a engineering hull there is no deflector and it would mean the reactor would be in the saucer section.
Not a TOS/TMP era ship however.
The deflector would have been on the front end of the saucer (deflectors don't need to be round), akin to how the Constellation is designed, and a saucer mounted warp core makes perfect sense in the absence of a secondary hull.
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I agree with you on the part of the ship being canon. Even if Nero did not show up the Kelvin would have still been there. I do not agree that the movie was bad. I liked it a lot.
You don't have to agree with me... I can't force you to be right ^^ :P xD
This ship disobeys all Trek-Law in design; The most obvious one being that the ONE nacelle as opposed to Two+ has exaust/thrust coming out the back of it!
The more hardcore Trekkie you are, the less that ship or ANY of the Abram-Ships make sense.
It's on this basis that I think JJ made a great movie-Worst Trek... You can't respect a franchise by chucking out all of its Law!.. especailly a Science Fiction no less!
Episode Four - Head Of A Needle Episode Five: The Duality of Men Episode Six - Redemption Earned
Episode Seven - Shattered Universe Episode Eight - The Gepetto Condition Episode Nine - One Room, Two Officers
Episode Ten - Beyond The Farthest Star Episode Eleven - It's OK, It Won't Hurt Episode Twelve - A Protracted Officer
Episode Thirteen - Somewhen Episode Fourteen - The Boy Who Lived Episode Fifthteen - Empathy
Wait? A canon or soft canon one? I don't seem to remember that one...
If we count the Saladin the I am cool with it, but I don't remember a on-screen example of a single nacelle Starfleet ship, pre TNG.
If you can, please re-direct me there... I would like to add it to my memory banks.
(This was a serious, non-trolling request btw).
Technically it would be the Hermes since I don't believe you get a front-on schema of the Saladin like you do with the Hermes (to confirm that the ship in fact had only one nacelle).
You are correct in that there is no "On Screen" moment where one appears, but the sensor readouts are unambiguous as far as I'm concerned, even if it is only a bit appearance.
Schematic, sensor reading or battle scene... If it's been onscreen, its defined as hard canon.
Not a TOS/TMP era ship however.
The deflector would have been on the front end of the saucer (deflectors don't need to be round), akin to how the Constellation is designed, and a saucer mounted warp core makes perfect sense in the absence of a secondary hull.