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cdrgadley
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In my opinion.
I know this thread isn't at all constructive...but I feel the need to give my thanks.
This is easily the best MMO I've ever played...and this is coming from someone who wasn't even a Star Trek fan before playing the game.
The mix of space and ground combat is great...and makes it so that you (I) never get bored of either.
The ability to create your own crew. This is by far...one of the best feature of the game.
The Doff system. It's something that I am not always completely focused on while playing actual missions...but it's just another piece to a great game. Being able to start up a nice list of missions right when I log in and/or before loggin out for the night for extra rewards is definitely nice. The rewards isn't even the best part...I really like the involvement of your Bridge Officers. Sure it's something off-hand...but I like being able to set up your department heads.
There is just so much involved to keep my interest.
In short...thank you for what is definitely my favorite MMO.
I know this thread isn't at all constructive...but I feel the need to give my thanks.
This is easily the best MMO I've ever played...and this is coming from someone who wasn't even a Star Trek fan before playing the game.
The mix of space and ground combat is great...and makes it so that you (I) never get bored of either.
The ability to create your own crew. This is by far...one of the best feature of the game.
The Doff system. It's something that I am not always completely focused on while playing actual missions...but it's just another piece to a great game. Being able to start up a nice list of missions right when I log in and/or before loggin out for the night for extra rewards is definitely nice. The rewards isn't even the best part...I really like the involvement of your Bridge Officers. Sure it's something off-hand...but I like being able to set up your department heads.
There is just so much involved to keep my interest.
In short...thank you for what is definitely my favorite MMO.
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(UFP) Ragnar
But, for sake of debate, I shall contest that you have not brought forth a single convincing argument as to what set this MMO apart from other MMOs (which you may or may not have played) as to warrant its crowning as the best MMO ever.
You say it is the best MMO, I say to you: In what manner?
Does it has the best combat? The best graphics? The best gameplay? The most interesting lore? The highest quality of code execution? (hello memory leaks and incessant intermittent crashes) The best of customer support? (there is any?)
As follows, you may see that all your points are all hollow and that you have failed to present any substantial merits as to what distinguishes STO to deserve such praise.
It is a nice perk, but nothing that is new, to be honest.
That statement is very false. A mix of ground and space (or different combat modes/features) is not the recepie for preventing bordom of a game. That has been proven.
The methodology required for a non-bordom is creating a gameplay which pace is flowing and repetitive without feeling stressful, imposed or treadmilling rather interesting and wanting.
And by far the most lacking and minimalistic one.
The customization of crew is quite basic - namely, mainly, clothing and some actionable "skills". Beyond that you have very limited or no control over them at all.
You can "promote" them, but that is a very empty gesture which serves no true function and could've been removed from the game all the same without the least bit of impact.
Nor can you demote them, or do with them anything beyond some minimalistic Small Unit Tactics in some ground missions.
Beyond that they are of zero use and in the end game there are indeed of nill use.
It is a nice card trading game. And a Dilithium money-sink mechanic. But not much more than that.
Again, a highly superficial feature.
In summary, STO is a decent game with a fine promising core that was never fleshed out (and probably never will).
What is available, while largely broken, is catering nicely to a niche that is otherwise unavailable (also, Star Trek; Enterprise; Klingons; yada-yada we love that ****).
But the best MMO? It is not.
And to tell the truth, if I wasn't burnt out on fantasy/D&D I'd probably be elsewhere.
Also, I've got a fleet to run, invested (so to speak) lots of money in STO, got a few friends still play that I like seeing and talking to, so...yeah, I'm somewhat rooted until they shutdown (although StarCitizen is likely to steal me away heavily, already dropped a nice $grand in the kickstart).
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Expended $1,961 USD on this game - regretting it all. This game and some of its staff disappointed me, time and again, per every single cent spent!!!
I guess you skipped over my very first line where I said "In my opinion".
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Since when does an opinion require proof or even a convincing argument?
Since the OP threat title was "Best MMO Ever". I do not see "IN my opinion, Best MMO Ever" there in there title sir.
This is easily not the best MMO ever, especially imo. lol
My apologies...I thought that my very first line of the thread saying "In my opinion" would be enough for people to understand that this thread is all about my opinion.
I would change the title if I could.
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So , yeah , Dude did say it was his OPINION.
HIS opinion.
Also noted that he knew it wasn't constructive, just wanted to say a nice thing or two.
Honestly, did you just come in the thread to be disagreeable ?
And hey , Commader Gadley. I couldn't agree with you more.
Not just your opinion.
I am sure that many others share it.
My favorite MMO as well.
Good Luck out in space.
And I've played WoW, Everquest I&II, Saga of Ryzom, Vanguard, Horizons, Asheron's Call, EVE Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Lord of the Rings Online, The Secret World, Guild Wars 1&2 (GW1 may not count as a mmo), Rift, Star Wars: Galaxies, Knights of the Old Republic, and probably a few I'm forgetting.
I like STO best because of Foundry, the graphics, ship combat, the way gameplay meshes with the style of Star Trek, and the diversity of things to do.
It could use big improvements, but I'm saying 'best,' not 'perfect.'
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
You thought wrong, lol. Still, I salute you for posting this thread. It is admirable in the same sort of way as a blade of grass growing through a crack in the asphalt.
Never forget that on the internet there exist people who like to be disagreeable, argumentative jerks, just because they can do so without looking you in the eye.
No need to change your thread title.
You are very clear in your original post, and it's always nice to see a thread just saying something nice for a change. Just because a couple of malcontents who like to attack happiness wandered into your thread doesn't mean you need to change it.
Stay Happy.
Stay cheerful.
Ignore Jerks.
Good Luck in Space.
dude, dont worry. it obvious what you meant by reading your post. some just want to argue over semantics and pour water on your fun as they have nothing better to do.
i agree with you. its the best MMO i personally have played. i cant quantify why my fun is higher in this game than others, it just is, but i get where you are coming fun.
keep having fun.
I'm a lifer and agree with the OP. It's human nature to be critical and there are lots who like to whine and gripe about anything (all of us have done it to some degree..we are not perfect after all). Overall compared to other MMOs...STO rocks with only a few others...it's also my own personal opinion even though I have seen my share of people complaining about STO for the past 7 seasons....I'm still here...seen the rest an played them as well...IMO there are not much greener pastures than what the DEVs have tried to do with this game despite all those who might disagree :cool:
By that criteria, it's certainly the "best". :P
In CO, CoH, WoW, SWTOR LotRO ect... Once I hit level cap I always started another character and would break out my level cap ones only for special events, or to try out new content.
STO I found it a relief to hit 50 and have almost zero desire to roll an alt, because I'm enjoying the end game and Foundry stuff a great deal. I don't know if that makes this the greatest MMO ever, but it's the one I'm playing right now so it's the best one for me.
Came back with F2P to see what had changed, rapidly hit level cap, and got bored. The recent changes haven't all been great, but it's got me playing again.
I've been playing most every day at least an hour or two, mostly doing the dailies, winter event, and lots of DOFF stuff.
That being said, it still feels like too much of a grind. The reputation system is interesting, but "grindy", though I think it has potential once they add more to it.
I play it because I love Trek, and it's free, so sort of a "fix". I think it's certainly the "best free MMO" out there, but overall, doesn't come close to being the best overall MMO in my opinion.
Glad people love it, I hope it gets better and better as the years go by!
Just one post later for the Hateosaur to appear. It's like you have your own Pokemon.
As for the people that think he has to give arguments, well, no. He doesn't. Firstly, this isn't an argument. He just wanted to say something nice. Good on him for doing that. Secondly, my favourite colour is blue. Do I need to give you arguments as to why? Nope. Neither should the OP have to validate his opinion. It's his and he has every right to it.
BTW the best one I have ever played was my first MMO EQ1 it keeps drawing me back lol
However, it is my opinion that an opinion not grounded in factual base (in particular ones concerning "this thing is the best of its kind" type of an opinion) are without merit and need be judged as such prior to the bandwagon fans jumping aboard and defacto turning mud onto gold.
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Joined April 2008. Lifetime Subscriber. Original member of the original 2nd Fleet.
Expended $1,961 USD on this game - regretting it all. This game and some of its staff disappointed me, time and again, per every single cent spent!!!
Grilling them like this is a high court will, surprisingly, Not Be Received Well (tm).
There are ways to ask someone to defend their opinion without being antagonistic.
I mean, what terrible horrible outcome is going to arise from people saying nice things about a game?
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
So you feel the need to point out how wrong his opinion is then? Thankfully since that is your opinion, it's not one the rest of us need to abide by, or even give credence to.
First off, an opinion can rarely be grounded in any sort of factual base. An opinion is by it's very nature subjective and not subject to facts.
People claim that item X is the best all the time, and there's no way to use facts to refute or prove that claim. The statement inherently subjective in nature.
So basically your whole post is nothing more then haters hating and you trying to claim you have some reason why it's necessary to post your hate. Because nothing you posted is in any way proof or fact... All you have is your own subjective opinion on things.
Of coursed based on your whole 8 posts... 2 of which in this tread being highly negative, and at least one other I remember being the same... I think it's fairly safe to say that your opinion is not one that I or many other people will give much weight to, because you are clearly one of those.
Like 'I like sushi because I find the taste of raw tuna to have a pleasantly smooth, almost buttery texture and taste, with an iron tang and the bite of wasabi.'
That doesn't change the fact that somebody else finds the idea and taste of raw fish to be utterly vomit-inducing, but I can explain some of why I enjoy it.
But 'you like sushi? What about it? I find it weird.' is a better opener than 'raw fish? are you f'in kidding me?? That's bait! All disgusting, makes me want to hurl. What's wrong with you?'
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
If you look at the first page, you'd see.
Mediocrity being passed as an acceptable status quo (just look at real life and how politicians/corporations/banks manipulate their human farms) and curtail ambition and right to demand for more.
Opinions are subjective. However, they may be proved or disproved.
It was an opinion that the world is round. It was an opinion that the Earth is not the center of the universe. It was an opinion that there is a force pulling everything "downwards".
Those opinions are nowadays regarded as axioms.
Opinions are VERY important, and it is of equal importance to strengthen them with fact or disprove them where required, as eventually they set the tone for what becomes fact. Dangerous facts.
It is a most destructive path you are setting upon. Void critique and you risk of becoming lost.
You are also being highly defensive, you need separate a questioning of an argument from a personal attack.
There is a way. You define in what manner it is best. You examine it under specific conditions and situations.
You perform mathematical analysis of cost and benefit. You compare it to other items of its kind/use.
You then examine all the results and conclude its scope of reliability.
Lets take your argument in supporting the OP view as an example:
All the MMOs you've mentioned are following similar treadmill patterns that were refined in WoW and derivative of EverQuest which in itself was derivative of DikuMUD and others; whereas the focus of the experience is on the treadmill itself rather than on actual gameplay in a hanged-out-carrot fashion as a mean of retaining the player. Later on they would add upon this with so-called "end game content" ala raids, RvR, level cap expansions and so forth.
As such it is no surprise that all of them yielded the same result.
STO has a particular odd situation whereas the levels are just barrier from fully enjoying the whole game content and could be just as easily removed from the game and their lack of existence would matter nothing.
It is like binding chains, limiting your freedom of movement until you unshackle them at the maximum level of 50 and serve neither retention nor any feasible desirable design element.
All it does is segment content availability and create temporarily gated content as the vast majority of content lies in the level cap.
As such I would argue that it is not so much that you enjoyed the playtime after the cap while not enjoying leveling, so much that after reaching the level cap you were able to actually play the game and thoroughly enjoy the entirety of the content that is available whereas leveling up was not fun because you were simply whacking away at the guards and bars that were preventing you from accessing that content.
Basically, until level 50 you're not playing the game, you're playing a confined tutorial. At level 50 you're playing the game.
The STO actual "end-game content" has always been the STFs. And that has not changed in a long, long, time (well, they added that Hive ground/space thing recently). Most veterans are quite bored of this as such (but gotta grind for dilithium - the new "end game" treadmill).
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Joined April 2008. Lifetime Subscriber. Original member of the original 2nd Fleet.
Expended $1,961 USD on this game - regretting it all. This game and some of its staff disappointed me, time and again, per every single cent spent!!!
but seriously, ive played DCUO, GW2, LOTRO, SWTOR...
this one hits the spot for me and is my main.
Interested in Role Playing? Join the 12th Fleet Science division!
Come back whence you're capable of intelligent debate please, mr. pot.
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Joined April 2008. Lifetime Subscriber. Original member of the original 2nd Fleet.
Expended $1,961 USD on this game - regretting it all. This game and some of its staff disappointed me, time and again, per every single cent spent!!!