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PvP Boot Camp Update - 12/17/2012
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Community Member Sargon checks in to provide an important update for PvP Boot Camp registrants, including the registration end date for session #1 and information on how you will be contacted by your coach.
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Best of luck to everyone! Learn! Have fun!
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its not just for pvp help too, i will make you better at everything there is to do in game. if all you have done is play pve and never pvp'ed, its likely your ship only operates at about 10% of its potential. but thats ok, theres no were to go from there but up!
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Lol arrogant much? :rolleyes: I never pvp and my ship operates at about 95% of its potential with the other 5% sacrificed for pve specialisation.
This game is so simple there is no excuse for you to have your ship perform well in one area and poorly in the other unless you are deliberately penalising yourself by using plasma weapons (which I am, even then I often top damage done in pugs).
A properly fit PVE ship is damn similar to a properly built PVP ship the only difference between the 2 environments is that PVP REQUIRES teamwork.
It is not that simple. In my experience, PvE simply doesn't require a lot of crowd control abilities or debuffs. You're really best of with a high damage build, having your basic heals. The STFs and the No Win scenario seem to be the only modes where many science abilities even become relevant.
For example:
One of the most important powers in PvP has always been Subnucleonic Beam. SNB removes buffs, and a ship that is buffed with an EPtS, Hazard Emitters, Transfer Shield Strength, Auxillary Power to Structural Integrity Field, ATtack PAttern Apha and Omega, and Cannon Rapid FIre is basically neutralized with a single SNB. (A good pilot can survive it in many circumstances, and a team may carry him throught he worse cases). But NPCs? They use 2-3 buffs at best usually. You get much, much more out of an Attack Pattern Alpha.
Not all games have such extreme differences between PvE and PvP. But STO definitely has a big difference.
PvP isn't like that.
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He said PVEers only fly their ships at 10% effectiveness which is bull. Your post revolves around a skill that is a CAPTAIN ability and there fore has nothing to do with ships at all.
What were you responding to again?
Except that when the captains in the ship he uses his powers... It's completely related to the ship.
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Do you even Science Bro?
No it isnt. A Science captain can use Subnucleonic beam regardless of weather he is in a best fit escort, TRIBBLE fit science vessel or even a damn runabout.
If you want to discuss the necessity of having access to subnuc do it separately to discussions about ship fits.
lol, the person who has never pvped (im assuming) saying his ship is at 95% of its potential is calling me arrogant. not even i would say any of my ships are at 95%, and not just because i don't have all mkXII purple items, but also because i lack near perfect pilot skill. npcs don't have STF shields, plasma in pve isn't gimping yourself.
go ahead mister 95%, que up and show us how its done. if you really are that good you will enjoy the hell out of pvp. or you will learn a hard lesson about just how good you are.
but thats what the boot camp is for, to gain a more room temperature ship potential.
Ok I think this is my fault for not being very clear. My ship is optimised for PVE because that is what I do. Thats why I don't mind running plasma weapons or a scrub ship.
It is also about 95% optimised for PVP. Other than swapping the weapon damage type and replacing AP:B with AP:O there are no changes that would make it more effective.
If you actually want to contribute some useful information and begin a discussion about the differences between a PVE skill tree and a PVP skill tree i'll return and take part.
For ship fits there is very little real difference.
They said they will offer a reward for joining so it will be very encouraging when people will do that without a reward :rolleyes:
Well then, I'd like to take on your 95% optimized pvp ship
Do you even Science Bro?
I'm sorry but there is a huge difference in what you use in pvp and pve. I really hope you do the pvp bootcamp and I'm your coach. I don't mean this in any bad way at all ill be the first to say that I'm not perfect in pve. But the difference in pve and pvp is the difference between the enterprise 1701 and the enterprise 1701-J. Now mind you a pvp build will be petter off then a pve build in a pvp game. For cruisers it's not that big of a difference, escorts have a little bit more of a change, a science ship is completely different.
Or people actually want to get better at the game. :rolleyes:
And there's nothing wrong with giving incentive to participate in things.
No offense, but a "few" matches don't give you an accurate picture of the game at all.
Losing is a part of life in any PvP game. You can't possibly expect to be as good as people that have been PvPing for the life of the game in a short amount of time.
You will see after this bootcamp thingy how many will continue playing :rolleyes:
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Here I sit in game today....and still nothing.
Very disappointing.
Sorry to hear, OLS
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Sorry to hear about the miscommunication, Skully. You certainly wernt the only person not notified via ingame PM.
However, the dates and times for todays sessions were postsd on these forums, and all over the PVP BootCamp website that all attendants are duggested to join.
However however, there will be a makeup session on i think January 5th so you still have a chance. That will then lead on to Session #2 times that will take place on Jan 26th, i believe.
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I get warm fuzzies at the thought of more people becoming PvPers.
Will the PvP Boot Camp enforce the use of TeamSpeak in all PvP events?
How will this new training camp promote tolerance between elite pvp players and pick up groups?
Since this is being considered as a 'boot camp', will there be new guidelines established for all PvP players?
Is the PvP Boot Camp a temporary or permanent fixture to "Star Trek: Online"?
Will the PvP Boot Camp be used to coverup Cryptic's inability to flesh out PvP battlegrounds and environments? PvP Boot Camp = Cryptic's inability to create a new PvP environment? Foundry Spotlight = Cryptic's inability to create a new set of featured episodes? Players doing the work in which Cryptic employees are responsible for?
If players are doing all the work, why are people paying Cryptic for their lack of services?
And to people saying PvE and PvP gameplay is the same, no friends it is not. In PvE you can dps the heck out of any npcs. In PvP, teamwork is king. If you don't read your team and your enemies good enough, you will fail and fail hard.
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