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musicformoviesmusicformovies Member Posts: 9 Arc User
Last Year, it was fun just trying to stay up, and if you made it to the end you got points.. now you have to beat a guy? Really? I thought that is what the PVP version is for (which is cool so there is a choice)..

Thanks for making what should have been a relaxing lark.. into another frusterating experience.... sigh. :(
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    what's that about? the guy, is that the NPC that can be beaten if you get a disconnect? (yeah happened)

    no srsly if this post is about the race against the NPC for the 40 Q pictures, and it is a complain about the difficulty (which is kind of not really clear, even after reading the post 3 times) then you should probably google a guide for the race instead of complaining about it.
    The NPC race is porbably the easiest thing there is, there is really nothing that easy in sto as the race.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    ...Didn't you have to beat a guy last year too?
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    For the "Fastest Race on Ice",

    I've been disqualified for sliding off the track plenty, but only "lost" once. I've had other people on the track with me who got ahead of me and I still "won".

    All I can say is, every time I've run it successfully I'm the only one signaling the race official to start.

    I came in 3rd on "Fast and Flurrious" once. Every other time I either slid off the track and disqualified, or just plain came in after. Now that you can get something for just completing it, I might run it more often.

    Oh, and don't forget that the "lemming plunge" over the cliff doesn't work anymore; the loophole has been closed according to the Devs.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bluegeek wrote: »
    I've been disqualified for sliding off the track plenty, but only "lost" once. I've had other people on the track with me who got ahead of me and I still "won".


    Yeah, the only times I've lost were from falling outside the bounds the first couple tries.


    OP: Have you tried doing a dodge/roll on the sharp turns, to stop your sliding and change your direction? It's incredibly handy. With that technique, I've been able to keep sprinting most of the rest of the time, which lets you gain lots of distance on the NPC. Even if you only do it on the longer straights. Hope this helps. :)

    (also, you are in "shooter" mode, right?)
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Last Year, it was fun just trying to stay up, and if you made it to the end you got points.. now you have to beat a guy? Really? I thought that is what the PVP version is for (which is cool so there is a choice)..

    Thanks for making what should have been a relaxing lark.. into another frusterating experience.... sigh. :(

    Have Q turn you into a Devidian and fly around the corners and sprint through the straight-aways. You should win everytime as long as you do not make a mistake.
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  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    kiralyn wrote: »
    Yeah, the only times I've lost were from falling outside the bounds the first couple tries.


    OP: Have you tried doing a dodge/roll on the sharp turns, to stop your sliding and change your direction? It's incredibly handy. With that technique, I've been able to keep sprinting most of the rest of the time, which lets you gain lots of distance on the NPC. Even if you only do it on the longer straights. Hope this helps. :)

    (also, you are in "shooter" mode, right?)

    I have been learning more about ground movement in this race than nearly any other mission or event in the game. I wish more missions integrated this varied movement environment.

    I use "jump" and take my finger off the forward direction key to control direction, speed and how much I slide. Sometimes I stop completely before sprinting. All done in shooter mode.

    I won my first race easily and the next few days I ran it 6 times each day or more to win. Lately I'm winning on the first or second try.
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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Have Q turn you into a Devidian and fly around the corners and sprint through the straight-aways. You should win everytime as long as you do not make a mistake.

    I think they killed the ability to race in one of the alternate forms Q changes you into with the last patch. No idea why. I guess people were having too much fun with it. :rolleyes:
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    hypl wrote: »
    ...Didn't you have to beat a guy last year too?

    Yes. its exactly the same.
  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I think some of us take for granted how difficult the race is for those who have just started as we ran it countless times last year, and have run it over a hundred times so far this year!

    You do get used to it and in fact the only real way to have problems this year is to run while the snowman event is on as those pesky snowmen seem to take immense glee at keeping you frozen on the start line :(

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  • aredoubleyouaredoubleyou Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    dirlettia wrote: »
    I think some of us take for granted how difficult the race is for those who have just started as we ran it countless times last year, and have run it over a hundred times so far this year!

    You do get used to it and in fact the only real way to have problems this year is to run while the snowman event is on as those pesky snowmen seem to take immense glee at keeping you frozen on the start line :(

    That's fixed as well.
  • rdm1958rdm1958 Member Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    i think the winter wonderland is a lot of fun and a nice break from STFs, bases and the rep system.

    the races are good too imho and i am glad they fixed the "shortcut" on the fastest race. i think it is more fun now.

    racing for Q's portraits seemed incredibly hard at first, but jump now and then in the right places and it is an easy win everytime once you get the hang of it.

    i also like the snowmen fight and getting some good drops from that.

    the boots are great for ice skating. just mindless fun.

    you can also pick up several accolades in winter wonderland.

    i think they did a good job on this.
  • lancemeszaroslancemeszaros Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    dirlettia wrote: »
    I think some of us take for granted how difficult the race is for those who have just started as we ran it countless times last year, and have run it over a hundred times so far this year!

    This year is my first time running it and I found it to be rather easy once I got used to the slippery track. Just need to know how to drift, roll to stop your momentum, and line yourself up to make a straight line through the curvy parts.
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yes. its exactly the same.

    Agreed. I did it last year and was exactly the same format and same NPCs. You just need to practice a bit more...dont give up just because you dont know how. Read some more about it or ask around. People around there who do it daily will be glad to help you or show you how. I have fun with both the dailies and the fast and the flurrios...just wish that cool down timer would be less than 20hr :D
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I like it and a change from my normal gaming I do on STO. The race is still a challenge even though I'm racing the comp. I gone off course a couple of time. Here lately I won it on the first try.

    Want a challenge? Try to beat your time from the day before. That is what I usually do. See how fast I can do it. I created my own challenge for the race.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    First couple of tries at this race it was frustrating and lost a bunch in a row. Once you get the tricks though, you'll leave the NPC far behind. Its kind of a 'ya get it or ya don't' sort of thing.

    Hit 'R' as soon as the countdown starts so you don't waste any fraction of a second. Sprint on the longer straightaways and near-straightaways, hugging the minor turns close enough that it may as well be a straight shot. Start turning early so you'll have momentum in the direction you want to go prior to getting to the actual turns. If you start losing control of your footing and need to move in the opposite direction, especially in the 90-or-tighter turns, use the Kirk Roll in the direction you want to go. Rolling costs you a little speed and time on the recovery, but its worth it to maintain control. If you're sliding off the track, again the Kirk Roll will save you.

    Once it clicks, you'll be like 'damn how did I ever let this get to me?' G'luck!
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I still fail at the race a couple of times a day, mostly because i get out of the track or because "server not responding" froze me like an idiot (and it's happening more and more these days). It's not that "easy", it's tricky and definitely not designed to handle the horrible servers the game has.

    It's far from being as interesting as the new STFs but into the hive doesn't give a ship and the race does, so my game times goes here first. I'm still wondering why the devs always add the poorest rewards to the best content in game and the best incentives to the lamest one, but i guess it's a part of their evil plan to make us play the boring content addictively while we carefully step away from funny instances. :D
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I have been learning more about ground movement in this race than nearly any other mission or event in the game. I wish more missions integrated this varied movement environment.

    I use "jump" and take my finger off the forward direction key to control direction, speed and how much I slide. Sometimes I stop completely before sprinting. All done in shooter mode.

    I won my first race easily and the next few days I ran it 6 times each day or more to win. Lately I'm winning on the first or second try.
    Yeah, I've run it soooo many times I can drift most of the corners. that and I memorized which sections of snow count as part of the track. It's much easier when you can avoid sliding entirely. It takes a lot of precision, but you can sprint on the edges for most of the track if you do it just right, thus avoiding most of the sliding.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited December 2012
    Guy, guy, guys, mutigendered clones and the occasional gal... ;)

    STOP SLIDING. Here's how to win. Hop. Yes, I said 'hop'. Go to your inner Epohh.

    Run fast (shift-run). Release the keys, and hop (spacebar). you will come to a complete, non-sliding stop. Realign, repeat. You won't slide. You will stay reasonably ahead of your competition.

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  • januhulljanuhull Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I have been learning more about ground movement in this race than nearly any other mission or event in the game. I wish more missions integrated this varied movement environment.

    One of the Romulan chain of missions has a low gravity environment. It's pretty wild hopping around like a rabbit. :)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Guy, guy, guys, mutigendered clones and the occasional gal... ;)

    STOP SLIDING. Here's how to win. Hop. Yes, I said 'hop'. Go to your inner Epohh.

    Run fast (shift-run). Release the keys, and hop (spacebar). you will come to a complete, non-sliding stop. Realign, repeat. You won't slide. You will stay reasonably ahead of your competition.

    Admiral 'Hoppity' Thrax

    Sometimes I'll still do it without this, just to add some fun...

    ...but yeah, I thought this thread was going to be about how it's not fun because of how easy it is.

    Run in a straight line to a turn. Hop. You stop. Realign for the next straight line. Run. Hop. Stop. Realign. It's basically a series of straight lines, hopping to stop, turning, and running in another straight line. The NPC you're racing won't get anywhere near you. You'll even pass the NPC from the guy racing in front of you. You can actually stop to reply to something you've been reading in chat because you're that far ahead of the guy you're racing.

    It's kind of gotten tedious.

    So like I said, sometimes I'll just run it normally because it can be funny with some of the sliding... or running back to let the NPC take the lead and then passing them again.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited December 2012
    I totally agree on the sliding part - it's fun. The devs added a few more different stumbles and 'whoops' - or I missed them last year. In any case - it's a lot of fun.

    Skating with a Klingon.... 'KLINGONS ON ICE' is a LOT of fun. Maybe next year they will let us play hockey!
  • tragamitestragamites Member Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Last Year, it was fun just trying to stay up, and if you made it to the end you got points.. now you have to beat a guy? Really? I thought that is what the PVP version is for (which is cool so there is a choice)..

    Thanks for making what should have been a relaxing lark.. into another frusterating experience.... sigh. :(

    The individual race is exactly the same as last year except the reward is different. Last year we got boxes that had the decorations now we get that from the snow fights. I don't know what you were playing last year but if you feel like this year is different then you didn't play STO last year.
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  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    dirlettia wrote: »
    I think some of us take for granted how difficult the race is for those who have just started as we ran it countless times last year, and have run it over a hundred times so far this year!

    You do get used to it and in fact the only real way to have problems this year is to run while the snowman event is on as those pesky snowmen seem to take immense glee at keeping you frozen on the start line :(

    This year was my first time and I've never come close to losing. OP is just terrible at video games. Hell, I've even lapped the people in front of me who were winning their races. I don't think they could possibly make it easier.
  • fallenhawkfallenhawk Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    How in hell can you NOT "win" the solo race? I haven't "lost" yet, you know you don't have to sprint at all. Now PVP race you going need to and do some tricks to win that one.

    BTW I wasn't here last year .
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  • luxchristianluxchristian Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The race against the NSC is so easy that it isn't even fun anymore -.-
    I hope next year we get faster NSC to race against!!! Because the race itself is a cool idea :-)

    The race against players is kind boring. Probably because most of the other players are just useless at any game that is faster than solitaire :-P

    The track is very interesting but a little bit short. Pepping it up with obstacles which you have to dodge under them would be fun :-) Nice to see that everyone gets a reward, keeps the motivation up.

    If you have problems at the races, just try to hop and/or dodge. Get some boots. They make you faster but beware you slide even more :-)

    Good luck and have fun :-)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    xantris wrote: »
    This year was my first time and I've never come close to losing. OP is just terrible at video games. Hell, I've even lapped the people in front of me who were winning their races. I don't think they could possibly make it easier.
    Now THAT is a fun challenge! I've done it and it takes SKILL to pass a human player who started before you did.
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Here is an idea. Sometimes an NPC opponent won't show up at all in the solo race. It may take a few tries, but as soon as the race starts go off the track and back up to the gazebo to restart it. Then you can just take your sweet time to complete it with no worries.
  • mkilczewskimkilczewski Member Posts: 284
    edited December 2012
    Your best bet is to run the track, until you're familiar with it. Get used to "drifting" as another poster put it. I've never tried the hopping thing, and I'm not sure if the Devedian thing still works. I have 9 toons to do each day, and most of the time, I'm not racing an opponent. You can jog the entire track, if you're the only racer, and even if you do have an opponent, the only time he ever gets near you, is after the far side hairpin, just before the bridge, where you'll slide onto the lake if you're not careful. Opponents start after you and, for the most part, are alot slower, except for the humpback, beaver lookin' thing. As another poster said, you can also just keep porkin' the race at the start, until you get a solo race. The only time I ever have to restart is when the game gets laggy, and rubber banding sets in, which blows. Once you know the track it's pretty easy.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Your best bet is to run the track, until you're familiar with it. Get used to "drifting" as another poster put it. I've never tried the hopping thing, and I'm not sure if the Devedian thing still works. I have 9 toons to do each day, and most of the time, I'm not racing an opponent. You can jog the entire track, if you're the only racer, and even if you do have an opponent, the only time he ever gets near you, is after the far side hairpin, just before the bridge, where you'll slide onto the lake if you're not careful. Opponents start after you and, for the most part, are alot slower, except for the humpback, beaver lookin' thing. As another poster said, you can also just keep porkin' the race at the start, until you get a solo race. The only time I ever have to restart is when the game gets laggy, and rubber banding sets in, which blows. Once you know the track it's pretty easy.
    The fastest three I've noticed: that furry critter you mentioned, the small Breen, and the ice spider.
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