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Dear cryptic... Shame on you!!!

trueprom3theustrueprom3theus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2012 in PvP Gameplay
... Because you always mess things up, because there is no coordination and logic in what you develop and because there is nobody in your management that sees the big picture!

Why all this? I was in few games against some T4 rep passive ships. Shield proc heal is (as pax mentioned) the v2 of bugged reman shield. Placate is like you have 2 HG shields equipped in the same time. But guess what? If you want to take off the T4 rep, you can't... At least with your prior TRIBBLE-ups there was a work around and people could still have fun. Now we're stuck with what we have till you decide to fix your goof-ups. Honestly, I don't really give a damn if pvp is not the main bread winner in sto (pretty much you jacked up pvp and made it not so profitable not us, the players, so you should blame yourself not is for that), this poor judgement and decisions have no excuse. You know you're prone to mess things up, why, and again, oh why don't you put some capable people to analyze and study all those silly changes?

Don't mean to offend any of your capable decision factors from the staff you have, but really, and seriously, those repetitive goof ups should raise a ton of alarm signals. Please dear cryptic, just listen to us in the future, consult us when you need to do something crazy, you only need to analyze what we say, not do what we say. And also, please put some capable management in your team, that can foresee problems such as this a do something about them.

I hope you'll get my message and my concern. The point of this thread is to re-open your eyes on the issues you keep repeating, really, not trying to offend anybody from your staff.

Merry Christmas and smart decisions for 2013!

Sincerely,

The very dissapointed prom3theus
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Hear! Daughters too.
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  • pveheropvehero Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    heh, no wonder I haven't even bothered logging in the last month. I've been staying out waiting for it all to get better... but it only gets worse... :p
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    turned out the tier 4 passives were as bad, if not WORSE then we all thought. how many times do we have to be right about everything before we are taken seriously?
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    turned out the tier 4 passives were as bad, if not WORSE then we all thought. how many times do we have to be right about everything before we are taken seriously?

    it gets even better, when the fixes come the pvp community will be yelled at by the pve community for "nerfing" and "ruining" their fun -rolls eyes-


    i just want this fixed before boot camp.

    seriously... what were they thinking?
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  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    maicake716 wrote: »
    it gets even better, when the fixes come the pvp community will be yelled at by the pve community for "nerfing" and "ruining" their fun -rolls eyes-


    i just want this fixed before boot camp.

    seriously... what were they thinking?

    Give them another scarf, it'll all be fine ;)
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  • wolfpack12cwolfpack12c Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I've got 1better I took a page out of TSIs book for one game to see how bad it could get
    2pt Borg Maco shield
    T4 heal
    The romulan embassy shield heal console
    And a sci ship

    Took amost 0 damage.
    I went Afk came Back 4 min later getting pounded on by 2 escort and a cruser I was still alive after all that. I'm never doing that again and I'm invoking nerf
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  • glassguitarglassguitar Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I personally took the Kinetic Damage and Placate procs. A buddy of mine has the shield heal proc. He sat still while I shot at him with four fleet Phaser DHC, and two Fleet Phaser Turrets (all with ACC mod) powered by four Very Rare Mk XI Phaser Relays, along with the cutting beam and my six very rare quality peregrine fighters. Max skills in everything related in any way to energy damage output including Embassy consoles with the plasma proc and Omega Weapon Amplifier bonus. Had Tactical Fleet, Fire on my Mark, Attack Pattern Omega, Cannon Rapid Fire Two and Go Down Fighting active. I did not even nick him. (he flys an escort, so this is not a cruiser tanking an escort) We did not try adding a Subnuc beam or other non-tactical debuff.

    We decided to see just how long it would actually take of me constantly firing on him to finally wear down his shields. Ten minutes later we gave up.

    During the evening we participated in around a dozen PvP matches. There were matches we won handily and matches we lost as a team. We even had an EPIC 45 minute battle against NOVA-CORE (BTW thanks for that awesome match guys!!!) and through the entire evening he never died. He had as many as five people focus firing on him and still didn't die.

    He said later that he hasn't died in either PvP or PvE since he took the T4 Shield Heal passive.

    This skill definitely needs a fix.

    As far as the placate passive goes, it's kind of hard for me to judge it from the perspective of the person who has it. I have had a few people comment to me that it's fairly effective, but adds up to being frustrated and challenging, but not game breaking in the end. I've been placated by it a couple times, but it was no where near as annoying as being spammed by AMS repeatedly.

    Perhaps this skill needs a balance check applied, not sure TBH. I seem to be able to fight through it when it happens to me, perhaps because I have Targeting maxed?
  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The only problem I see with the T4 Placate passive is if it stacks with KHG set bonus, that sort of puts Feds at a bit of a disadvantage.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    doomicile wrote: »
    The only problem I see with the T4 Placate passive is if it stacks with KHG set bonus, that sort of puts Feds at a bit of a disadvantage.

    Everyone has access to the KHG stuff now... as well as maco shields.

    No the tier 4 placate is completely broken. I hear a 12s immunity is getting put in... it still makes this passive complete bs... just not game breaking anymore.
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  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Everyone has access to the KHG stuff now... as well as maco shields.

    I was wondering how a Fed managed to use Plasmonic Leech on me the other day.

    Are they Tier IV or V? I didn't see any of these consoles on the project list.
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  • thishorizonthishorizon Member Posts: 1,158
    edited December 2012
    but, but......nao i can tanks ze cuuuuuubbbbeeeesss!!!!!!

    -thrusters on full-
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    doomicile wrote: »
    I was wondering how a Fed managed to use Plasmonic Leech on me the other day.

    Are they Tier IV or V? I didn't see any of these consoles on the project list.

    Leech is still KDF only, no?

    As for the KHG/MACO stuff - it's T5 - you need your respective set.

    For KDF to get the Adapted MACO Mk XII set, you need to have the KHG Mk XII set.
    For Feds to get the Adapted KHG Mk XII set, you need to have the MACO Mk XII set.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Course, there's this from the Tribble patch notes:

    "Console - Universal - Nadeon Detonator" will now enhance any standard torpedo, instead of only functioning with Photon Torpedoes.

    So will that be the KDF lockbox console...and perhaps the Feds will get Leech?

    There's curious speculation taking place out there.
  • thepleasuredomethepleasuredome Member Posts: 308
    edited December 2012
    pvehero wrote: »
    heh, no wonder I haven't even bothered logging in the last month. I've been staying out waiting for it all to get better... but it only gets worse... :p

    My thoughts and actions exactly.
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  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    doomicile wrote: »
    The only problem I see with the T4 Placate passive is if it stacks with KHG set bonus, that sort of puts Feds at a bit of a disadvantage.

    The issue with this abilitity is the ability is a passive that can be used not only to interrupt attack runs, but also "channeling" debuffs, eg TBs, Tach Beams, Sci ship sensor ability, etc. Keep in mind this is based of the attacker getting a CritH which is absordly easy to do now they buff critH passives and consoles.

    This stuff is bad power creep at its worse.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hrmm, in thinking about this a little more - it's kind of another kick in the pants to Sci, no?

    A 12s plac immunity from a random proc - that creates a 12s plac immunity against a not random Sci ability.

    How many BOFF abilities/DOFFs/even gear - does this immunity affect, eh? Meh...
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Agreed on the t4 shield being broken. People that were fallible/beatable before, are now indestructible. At best I can take a shield facing down with an all-buffs alpha, but before I can sink torpedoes or a couple of cannon volleys in, the shield facing is all the way back up. It's flipping ridiculous.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I stopped using dpb3 trico mines for a few weeks because it made me feel like a jerk sometimes, now I know I am justified in bringing that build back again to deal with this, I don't see any other way to beat it.
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  • doomiciledoomicile Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Leech is still KDF only, no?

    As for the KHG/MACO stuff - it's T5 - you need your respective set.

    For KDF to get the Adapted MACO Mk XII set, you need to have the KHG Mk XII set.
    For Feds to get the Adapted KHG Mk XII set, you need to have the MACO Mk XII set.

    Then something fishy was going on. I was in a FvF Cap N' Hold a couple days ago and when I looked at my debuffs, Plasmonic Leech was one of them. The opponent was in a Jem Bug, if that has any relevance.
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  • wolfpack12cwolfpack12c Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I change my mind shield heal is not oped it just makes teamplay morr important thats all
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  • alax2011alax2011 Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    ...Only a display bug......
    guys....remember, its only a display bug......
    nothing is wrong with the passive, its only a display bug....

    watch them start saying this TRIBBLE again
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