Firstly while it is possible to reach VA in as little as 15 hrs of play - running mirror events - that would be someone well experienced in the game.
lvl 1-10 takes the most time even for someone very experienced - and I have done it 12 times
your story gets even stranger:
with your progression in the Romulan and Omega system with just a few days of becoming VA - is flat out unbelievible - so fresh out of starfleet acedemy you are VA in lets be generous 5 days as a newbie
all geared up and running STFs like a fiend and the new romulan system and running the rep system - something that players with months in game are just learning and you are starting them after just a few days in the game?
then you say T2 romulan rep - wow - 15,000 so as soon as you hit VA you were running all assignments back to back
Its like you were born to this game - sounds like a propaganda thread to me. I can't believe so many experienced players in this thread have not said - wow this sounds fishy.
Add to that and 35 STFs on top of the romulan system? so lets say you have been lvl 44+ for 8 days as of the post date - thats 4+ per day - whlie learning the systems - while learning the layout-while learning the game mechanics -while learning the curriences,while learning the team mechanics, while learning the rep system,while grinding the other content - man that's just - wow
and you even had time to make a detailed post in the Forums - somewhere most players don't find in their first 2 weeks - again - wow this just keeps getting better and better.
Guys he's a plant, its should have been obvious from the start. Its not like he could have played an MMO before and have cracked the very complicated system of buying Large Hypos and moving sliders over in a few days.
Guys he's a plant, its should have been obvious from the start. Its not like he could have played an MMO before and have cracked the very complicated system of buying Large Hypos and moving sliders over in a few days.
Smells fishy to me too.
Ya ya - the math does not add up - there is tons to learn to get to the point of moving those slides - finding those vendors - all the while running back to back rep projects - 35 STF's and massive romulan content in only 9 to 10 days max of VA?
Never underestimate what people will make up on the forums.
Firstly while it is possible to reach VA in as little as 15 hrs of play - running mirror events - that would be someone well experienced in the game.
lvl 1-10 takes the most time even for someone very experienced - and I have done it 12 times
your story gets even stranger:
with your progression in the Romulan and Omega system with just a few days of becoming VA - is flat out unbelievible - so fresh out of starfleet acedemy you are VA in lets be generous 5 days as a newbie
all geared up and running STFs like a fiend and the new romulan system and running the rep system - something that players with months in game are just learning and you are starting them after just a few days in the game?
then you say T2 romulan rep - wow - 15,000 so as soon as you hit VA you were running all assignments back to back
Its like you were born to this game - sounds like a propaganda thread to me. I can't believe so many experienced players in this thread have not said - wow this sounds fishy.
Add to that and 35 STFs on top of the romulan system? so lets say you have been lvl 44+ for 8 days as of the post date - thats 4+ per day - whlie learning the systems - while learning the layout-while learning the game mechanics -while learning the curriences,while learning the team mechanics, while learning the rep system,while grinding the other content - man that's just - wow
sorry for you you didn't grasp the game mechanics as quickly as this person did.
I wouldn't take too much stock into what this particular forums majority is clambering for. It's made up primarily of f2p kiddies who have been exploiting the prior system via alts for easy dilithium, Star trek purists who don't have the first clue or care for learning the nuts and bolts of MMO game mechanics, and super casuals who dislike anything that is not served to them on a silver platter. Sadly, many of the player base has no idea how good they have it for a f2p game compared to the vast majority of them, including big titles like SWTOR.
If Cryptic made the MMO they wanted, it would be an absolute train wreck,
Way to go in insulting nearly everyone who plays STO or comes to these forums. Where exactly do you fit? What type of person can we pigeon hole you into I wonder. I think a lot of people know already from your posts.
Maybe if Cryptic went back to making an MMo as good as COH and stopped with the basic MMos, with shallow gameplay and now they can add grind fest to there CV, STO wouldn't be the "train wreck" it is now.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Sorry for you, that you believe everything you read on these forums.
Definitely sounds like a Dev in disguise.
I really am surprised or maybe I'm not, about the amount of people on here that cannot see through this thread.
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I don't believe everything i read.
Shmm is imho a person with high grade of intelligence AND education, cause his linguistics is very evolved (mine are not, at least in english, as it is the 3rd speech i use - sry).
To his actual post i can only add:
- the game mechanics is fun
- for a new player, there is plenty of content to go through
- the graphics are nice, far superior to SWTOR, the only better is TSW (where the customization lacks)
- it is onto you HOW you play this game. I don't waste time with bugged STF's, can still earn my dill elsewhere, am enjoying the PVP and Foundry, replaying some old missions and trying to get "better results"
i have invited a friend of mine, (Trek fan, MMO player), to try this game out. She had a splendid time lvling her FED toon, then i showed her KDF and she stayed. She loved the stories, but she complained the Foundry missions are "hit and miss" in quality.. There should be a Foundry homepage with mission rating and some rankings/discussion/ IMDB style plot...
She was doing elites on the 4th day of playing the game.
She bought 2 C-store ships, a month of golden subscription to get the bonuses. We started a fleet.
Then she discovered it is a good thing to have alts, so she made 2.
Then, S7 came, and we didn't make any progression with the fleet cause we didn't get to grind enough Fleet Marks (previously free), we joined a bigger fleet, and it no longer feels "ours".. so she is now playing SWTOR more often, albeit is still logging into STO, and we are lvling out new KDF alts together, having fun.
I think i am a bigger Trek fun, and i also am a market player, which i consider to be fun, and she is not, that is why she is not SO interested in making STO her MAIN mmo.
For me, i enjoy living in the Trek universe, creating my captains, playing the EC market, the Dill, the lockbox ships and lobi.. I have 12 toons here, 9 are KDF. I could delete the fed toons, cause i am not even logging onto them, but i already have bought so much stuff for them, that i let them live.
I enjoy the PVP here, the space PVP combat style is imho the BEST 3D combat i ever encountered in an MMO. Cryptic really should work on it, STO could be a PVP'ers heaven!
The reputation grind? is a good thing. In some 2 to 3 weeks everybody will have their first toons lvld up and will be slowly getting the MK XII equipment.
I don't force myself to upgrade all toons at once, just my 2 mains. I don't know if i will go through this with all my toons, probably not.
I also enjoy the new fleet actions and STF's. They are fun.
Most two week olds that I've seen can't talk, and can't even focus on objects around them. You Sir are way ahead of the pack!
PS. Nice post.
That's exactly what I wanted to say! :P
Solomace, born2bwild1, I learnt the stuff pretty quickly too. And like I suspect he did, I had all the time in the day to play around. Two weeks doesn't seem illogical for his success considering those factors.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Firstly while it is possible to reach VA in as little as 15 hrs of play - running mirror events - that would be someone well experienced in the game.
lvl 1-10 takes the most time even for someone very experienced - and I have done it 12 times
your story gets even stranger:
with your progression in the Romulan and Omega system with just a few days of becoming VA - is flat out unbelievible - so fresh out of starfleet acedemy you are VA in lets be generous 5 days as a newbie
all geared up and running STFs like a fiend and the new romulan system and running the rep system - something that players with months in game are just learning and you are starting them after just a few days in the game?
then you say T2 romulan rep - wow - 15,000 so as soon as you hit VA you were running all assignments back to back
Its like you were born to this game - sounds like a propaganda thread to me. I can't believe so many experienced players in this thread have not said - wow this sounds fishy.
Add to that and 35 STFs on top of the romulan system? so lets say you have been lvl 44+ for 8 days as of the post date - thats 4+ per day - whlie learning the systems - while learning the layout-while learning the game mechanics -while learning the curriences,while learning the team mechanics, while learning the rep system,while grinding the other content - man that's just - wow
and you even had time to make a detailed post in the Forums - somewhere most players don't find in their first 2 weeks - again - wow this just keeps getting better and better.
You got me! Here's your congratulatory tinfoil hat.
Seriously, that was rather amusing. Sadly it's nowhere near as impressive as you make it out to be, it just requires you to play a lot. And when you've been playing mmos for a decade, researching some basic stuff isn't exactly rocket science, no offense.
P.S. Character creation date isn't documented anywhere, but here's a pic I generated by dev haxing an account with the right stuff. ಠ_ಠ
You got me! Here's your congratulatory tinfoil hat.
Seriously, that was rather amusing. Sadly it's nowhere near as impressive as you make it out to be, it just requires you to play a lot. And when you've been playing mmos for a decade, researching some basic stuff isn't exactly rocket science, no offense.
P.S. Character creation date isn't documented anywhere, but here's a pic I generated by dev haxing an account with the right stuff. ಠ_ಠ
sorry the pic still means nothing - could just be a new toon - but if you are interested to know play time on that toon you could put :
/played
in the chat window which will tell you just how many hours you have put in.
and in the off chance that my tinfoil hat let through the wrong rays, it means the games executive producer Mr Dan Stahl was right and new players are leveling way too fast.
sorry the pic still means nothing - could just be a new toon - but if you are interested to know play time on that toon you could put :
/played
in the chat window which will tell you just how many hours you have put in.
and in the off chance that my tinfoil hat let through the wrong rays, it means the games executive producer Mr Dan Stahl was right and new players are leveling way too fast.
Well you could just look at my steam profile:
Star Trek Online
173.0 hrs last two weeks / 173.0 hrs on record
and in the off chance that my tinfoil hat let through the wrong rays, it means the games executive producer Mr Dan Stahl was right and new players are leveling way too fast.
Well, as another "new"-ish player (joined when Steam had that "cheap starter pack" sale, although I didn't buy it), I will say that leveling seems quite damn fast. Do a story mission, gain a level. Add in duty officer XP and exploration quests? Yeah, levels flowing.
I don't play nearly as much as the OP (and almost no "group" stuff, I'm a loner at heart), but my Fed is lv49 and my Orion is mid-30's.
I'm not making out as well in the grind, though..... haven't maxed out my dilithium on any day, only have over 500k creds because I sold an Alien Artifact, and have 10 Omega marks. In 49 levels, my Fed has done a whole one or two Fleet pugs and three Borg red alerts. Oh, and story-wise, I'm halfway through Romulan Mystery.
Having read up on them, it looks like I'll never do a Borg STF (the walkthroughs make it seem like I won't have the team coordination, and I refuse to bring a group down with my "suck" so I'll likely never even give it a shot. It was similar in WoW - in playing vanilla through Cata, I rarely ran dungeons and never raids. I haven't done any of the modern "online team" games besides some Mass Effect 3 MP. Don't own a mic. /shrug)
It'd be nice to see what some of this starbase stuff is, but I've got to find the "silent loners" fleet first. :P Never joined a guild in WoW, either - no interest in constant guild chat, being pestered to "come help me with this" constantly, or guild drama.
And I screwed up and bought a Sovereign at lv40, for my Tac. (It looked cool. And the escorts just... didn't.) I'm never paying $25 for a lv50 ship, so I'm stuck with this thing until I can save up the vast amount of dil to get a lv40 escort..... which means I haven't crafted any mkIX+ gear for my Sov either, since all of those cost 5k+ dil to make. Still rocking my mk VII plus quest rewards. Whee!
(I'm in the mid 60k on dil, so I may be able to afford a new lv40 ship in Jan or Feb. That's another sign that leveling might be too fast - at no point was it ever reasonable for me to buy a second ship of my character's current tier.... getting enough dilithium to afford it would push you far into the next tier and get you a new free ship. At least until lv50.)
edit: and my overnight doff assignments put me to 50. (and killed both fabrication engineers in Yet Another experimental upgrade explosion. /facepalm)
If anything it's a little sad, really. 12+ hours a day, get a life amirite?
Don't worry, I do the same thing all the time - when I'm not being pressured into programming stuff I don't know a bit (pun intended) about or in school.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Well, as another "new"-ish player (joined when Steam had that "cheap starter pack" sale, although I didn't buy it), I will say that leveling seems quite damn fast. Do a story mission, gain a level. Add in duty officer XP and exploration quests? Yeah, levels flowing.
I don't play nearly as much as the OP (and almost no "group" stuff, I'm a loner at heart), but my Fed is lv49 and my Orion is mid-30's.
I'm not making out as well in the grind, though..... haven't maxed out my dilithium on any day, only have over 500k creds because I sold an Alien Artifact, and have 10 Omega marks. In 49 levels, my Fed has done a whole one or two Fleet pugs and three Borg red alerts. Oh, and story-wise, I'm halfway through Romulan Mystery.
Having read up on them, it looks like I'll never do a Borg STF (the walkthroughs make it seem like I won't have the team coordination, and I refuse to bring a group down with my "suck" so I'll likely never even give it a shot. It was similar in WoW - in playing vanilla through Cata, I rarely ran dungeons and never raids. I haven't done any of the modern "online team" games besides some Mass Effect 3 MP. Don't own a mic. /shrug)
It'd be nice to see what some of this starbase stuff is, but I've got to find the "silent loners" fleet first. :P Never joined a guild in WoW, either - no interest in constant guild chat, being pestered to "come help me with this" constantly, or guild drama.
And I screwed up and bought a Sovereign at lv40, for my Tac. (It looked cool. And the escorts just... didn't.) I'm never paying $25 for a lv50 ship, so I'm stuck with this thing until I can save up the vast amount of dil to get a lv40 escort..... which means I haven't crafted any mkIX+ gear for my Sov either, since all of those cost 5k+ dil to make. Still rocking my mk VII plus quest rewards. Whee!
(I'm in the mid 60k on dil, so I may be able to afford a new lv40 ship in Jan or Feb. That's another sign that leveling might be too fast - at no point was it ever reasonable for me to buy a second ship of my character's current tier.... getting enough dilithium to afford it would push you far into the next tier and get you a new free ship. At least until lv50.)
edit: and my overnight doff assignments put me to 50. (and killed both fabrication engineers in Yet Another experimental upgrade explosion. /facepalm)
Don't let the STFs spook you. You might want to do the Borg invasion event to earn some Omega marks and level a bit up in the Omega Rep system then get some good gear before jumping in on them.
Once you have some faith in your ship build you can jump in Infected space (regular) and its pretty easy to do. Once you're good with that do the other regular space STFs so you don't get tired of the same one. Outfit you ship more as you play then jump in to Infected space elite. Play that get some MK XII stuff then move from there.
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Firstly while it is possible to reach VA in as little as 15 hrs of play - running mirror events - that would be someone well experienced in the game.
lvl 1-10 takes the most time even for someone very experienced - and I have done it 12 times
your story gets even stranger:
with your progression in the Romulan and Omega system with just a few days of becoming VA - is flat out unbelievible - so fresh out of starfleet acedemy you are VA in lets be generous 5 days as a newbie
all geared up and running STFs like a fiend and the new romulan system and running the rep system - something that players with months in game are just learning and you are starting them after just a few days in the game?
then you say T2 romulan rep - wow - 15,000 so as soon as you hit VA you were running all assignments back to back
Its like you were born to this game - sounds like a propaganda thread to me. I can't believe so many experienced players in this thread have not said - wow this sounds fishy.
Add to that and 35 STFs on top of the romulan system? so lets say you have been lvl 44+ for 8 days as of the post date - thats 4+ per day - whlie learning the systems - while learning the layout-while learning the game mechanics -while learning the curriences,while learning the team mechanics, while learning the rep system,while grinding the other content - man that's just - wow
and you even had time to make a detailed post in the Forums - somewhere most players don't find in their first 2 weeks - again - wow this just keeps getting better and better.
Smells fishy to me too.
Ya ya - the math does not add up - there is tons to learn to get to the point of moving those slides - finding those vendors - all the while running back to back rep projects - 35 STF's and massive romulan content in only 9 to 10 days max of VA?
Never underestimate what people will make up on the forums.
sorry for you you didn't grasp the game mechanics as quickly as this person did.
Sorry for you, that you believe everything you read on these forums.
Definitely sounds like a Dev in disguise.
I really am surprised or maybe I'm not, about the amount of people on here that cannot see through this thread.
Way to go in insulting nearly everyone who plays STO or comes to these forums. Where exactly do you fit? What type of person can we pigeon hole you into I wonder. I think a lot of people know already from your posts.
Maybe if Cryptic went back to making an MMo as good as COH and stopped with the basic MMos, with shallow gameplay and now they can add grind fest to there CV, STO wouldn't be the "train wreck" it is now.
I don't believe everything i read.
Shmm is imho a person with high grade of intelligence AND education, cause his linguistics is very evolved (mine are not, at least in english, as it is the 3rd speech i use - sry).
To his actual post i can only add:
- the game mechanics is fun
- for a new player, there is plenty of content to go through
- the graphics are nice, far superior to SWTOR, the only better is TSW (where the customization lacks)
- it is onto you HOW you play this game. I don't waste time with bugged STF's, can still earn my dill elsewhere, am enjoying the PVP and Foundry, replaying some old missions and trying to get "better results"
i have invited a friend of mine, (Trek fan, MMO player), to try this game out. She had a splendid time lvling her FED toon, then i showed her KDF and she stayed. She loved the stories, but she complained the Foundry missions are "hit and miss" in quality.. There should be a Foundry homepage with mission rating and some rankings/discussion/ IMDB style plot...
She was doing elites on the 4th day of playing the game.
She bought 2 C-store ships, a month of golden subscription to get the bonuses. We started a fleet.
Then she discovered it is a good thing to have alts, so she made 2.
Then, S7 came, and we didn't make any progression with the fleet cause we didn't get to grind enough Fleet Marks (previously free), we joined a bigger fleet, and it no longer feels "ours".. so she is now playing SWTOR more often, albeit is still logging into STO, and we are lvling out new KDF alts together, having fun.
I think i am a bigger Trek fun, and i also am a market player, which i consider to be fun, and she is not, that is why she is not SO interested in making STO her MAIN mmo.
For me, i enjoy living in the Trek universe, creating my captains, playing the EC market, the Dill, the lockbox ships and lobi.. I have 12 toons here, 9 are KDF. I could delete the fed toons, cause i am not even logging onto them, but i already have bought so much stuff for them, that i let them live.
I enjoy the PVP here, the space PVP combat style is imho the BEST 3D combat i ever encountered in an MMO. Cryptic really should work on it, STO could be a PVP'ers heaven!
The reputation grind? is a good thing. In some 2 to 3 weeks everybody will have their first toons lvld up and will be slowly getting the MK XII equipment.
I don't force myself to upgrade all toons at once, just my 2 mains. I don't know if i will go through this with all my toons, probably not.
I also enjoy the new fleet actions and STF's. They are fun.
That's exactly what I wanted to say! :P
Solomace, born2bwild1, I learnt the stuff pretty quickly too. And like I suspect he did, I had all the time in the day to play around. Two weeks doesn't seem illogical for his success considering those factors.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
You got me! Here's your congratulatory tinfoil hat.
Seriously, that was rather amusing. Sadly it's nowhere near as impressive as you make it out to be, it just requires you to play a lot. And when you've been playing mmos for a decade, researching some basic stuff isn't exactly rocket science, no offense.
P.S. Character creation date isn't documented anywhere, but here's a pic I generated by dev haxing an account with the right stuff. ಠ_ಠ
sorry the pic still means nothing - could just be a new toon - but if you are interested to know play time on that toon you could put :
/played
in the chat window which will tell you just how many hours you have put in.
and in the off chance that my tinfoil hat let through the wrong rays, it means the games executive producer Mr Dan Stahl was right and new players are leveling way too fast.
Well you could just look at my steam profile:
Star Trek Online
173.0 hrs last two weeks / 173.0 hrs on record
And here's /played for you.
If anything it's a little sad, really. 12+ hours a day, get a life amirite?
Well, as another "new"-ish player (joined when Steam had that "cheap starter pack" sale, although I didn't buy it), I will say that leveling seems quite damn fast. Do a story mission, gain a level. Add in duty officer XP and exploration quests? Yeah, levels flowing.
I don't play nearly as much as the OP (and almost no "group" stuff, I'm a loner at heart), but my Fed is lv49 and my Orion is mid-30's.
I'm not making out as well in the grind, though..... haven't maxed out my dilithium on any day, only have over 500k creds because I sold an Alien Artifact, and have 10 Omega marks. In 49 levels, my Fed has done a whole one or two Fleet pugs and three Borg red alerts. Oh, and story-wise, I'm halfway through Romulan Mystery.
Having read up on them, it looks like I'll never do a Borg STF (the walkthroughs make it seem like I won't have the team coordination, and I refuse to bring a group down with my "suck" so I'll likely never even give it a shot. It was similar in WoW - in playing vanilla through Cata, I rarely ran dungeons and never raids. I haven't done any of the modern "online team" games besides some Mass Effect 3 MP. Don't own a mic. /shrug)
It'd be nice to see what some of this starbase stuff is, but I've got to find the "silent loners" fleet first. :P Never joined a guild in WoW, either - no interest in constant guild chat, being pestered to "come help me with this" constantly, or guild drama.
And I screwed up and bought a Sovereign at lv40, for my Tac. (It looked cool. And the escorts just... didn't.) I'm never paying $25 for a lv50 ship, so I'm stuck with this thing until I can save up the vast amount of dil to get a lv40 escort..... which means I haven't crafted any mkIX+ gear for my Sov either, since all of those cost 5k+ dil to make. Still rocking my mk VII plus quest rewards. Whee!
(I'm in the mid 60k on dil, so I may be able to afford a new lv40 ship in Jan or Feb. That's another sign that leveling might be too fast - at no point was it ever reasonable for me to buy a second ship of my character's current tier.... getting enough dilithium to afford it would push you far into the next tier and get you a new free ship. At least until lv50.)
edit: and my overnight doff assignments put me to 50. (and killed both fabrication engineers in Yet Another experimental upgrade explosion. /facepalm)
Don't worry, I do the same thing all the time - when I'm not being pressured into programming stuff I don't know a bit (pun intended) about or in school.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Don't let the STFs spook you. You might want to do the Borg invasion event to earn some Omega marks and level a bit up in the Omega Rep system then get some good gear before jumping in on them.
Once you have some faith in your ship build you can jump in Infected space (regular) and its pretty easy to do. Once you're good with that do the other regular space STFs so you don't get tired of the same one. Outfit you ship more as you play then jump in to Infected space elite. Play that get some MK XII stuff then move from there.