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Your Least Favourite Trek SPECIES and Why?

jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Ten Forward
Similar to the thread "Your Least Favorite Trek Character And Why?", lets start up some random discussion on your least Fav Species :P

This can me Minor or Major species in TV or Movies.
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  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hate me if you must, but my vote goes for Caitian. Seeing those for the first time in Star Trek IV made me cringe. Cats? Maybe a Dog race would be better, I like Dogs ... eg a lovable Mog
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I don't really dislike any of the species, they all have their own merits.
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1. Despite the fact that I made my main from that planet just because I feel a need to redeem them, the "1940s Space Africans" from that really racist TNG episode in the first season.

    2. I suspect the Kazon will be a popular pick. Because they were dorks.

    3. As will be the Pakleds.

    4. And the Orions, while iconic, are made of the fears and resentments of millions of babymen and social conservatives, and are pretty embarrassing to think about in the 21st century.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Pakleds

    Personally they need to "look for things that make [them] go" away.:D
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  • startrekronstartrekron Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Pakleds. How did a race of people with the intellectual capacity of a 3 year old ever get to space and are able to remain there? I think I remember that they steal technology from other races but how stupid must those races be to be tricked by the Pakled.
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Generic Aliens.

    I suppose if I had to pick a actual species, I would also say Caitians. The problem is Trek tends to a good job with their species. Even species like the Cardassians and Changelings, which are mostly inclined to be seen as a "Villianous" species are fairly fleshed out to the point where, even if you aren't rooting for them, you like them anyways.

    Caitians and your generic aliens just haven't been given the fleshing out and backstories needed to make them lovable. Caitians just seemed be thrown in there cause they could, and well lets be honest, there is a reason generic aliens are called "generic" they aren't suppose to be fleshed out, they are just out there to be there.
  • mindmagemindmage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bajorans. Too much religious TRIBBLE. I was looking forward to a DS9 episode that would exterminate the entire race.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Cardassians or the Borg

    The Borg aren't really a species so the Cardassians.
    A race that willfully occupies another race for decades does not deserve mercy when its their turn to lose

    I would actually welcome the Borg assiimilating the cardassians
    then we could de-assimilate them with a quantum torpedo
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  • collegepark2151collegepark2151 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
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    edited November 2012
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll go with Klingons. Yeah I know, highly ironic choice given my avatar.....

    Why? Despite their incessant ramblings about being honorable warriors, Klingons tend to fight just for the fun of fighting. They don't fight because they have a reason to fight. Sure if you give them a good reason they'll fight for that, but they'll fight just because they're bored.... Where's the honor in that?
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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Most of my least favorites have already been mentioned for valid reasons ^^

    -Bajorans.. made DS9 unbearable for the first season or two, prophets blah suffering blah soil reclamers.. shoot me now please!

    -Catians/Feresans, kitty cat people in space? excuse me i have to cough of a hairball.. >.<

    -Kazon, the only way i can see them, is klingons without as good technology, but more scrub-ish than biker-ish.. bland and uninteresting

    -klingons for the sole reason ever other sentence.. 'honor' this and 'honor' that.. gawd.

    Other ideas..
    -Humans!!!, lets be honest, some of dem admirals..

    -Vulcans for the same reason as klingons.. 'logic' this 'logic' that, while spock was definative, every vulcan since has almost been a carbon copy, just with a few differences :/

    -Bolians... damn you chell!

    -'zakdorn' featured in the TNG episode where enterprise faces Hathaway in combat exercises, that alien who played strategema.. GRAH annoying! >.<

    -Talaxians, do i need to say anything :D

    -Hirogen annoyed me a bit too, similar to the klingon/vulcan gripe, they just seemed lacking and 2dimentional when EVERY sentence is about the Hunt.. bleh.

    Edit:
    I forgot one of my most despised encounters of a TNG episode

    -Tamarians, "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" interesting idea for anlien language but DEAR GOD, so annoying
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Pakleds, they are way too stupid to be spacefarers, and for the life of me I don't know why a race of morons is one of the picks you can make for a Federation character.
    (Don't even say it Klingons. a bar of soap will send you guys into convulsions)
    Bajorans are OK but their religion is idiotic
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll go with Klingons. Yeah I know, highly ironic choice given my avatar.....

    Why? Despite their incessant ramblings about being honorable warriors, Klingons tend to fight just for the fun of fighting. They don't fight because they have a reason to fight. Sure if you give them a good reason they'll fight for that, but they'll fight just because they're bored.... Where's the honor in that?

    Are humans any different? :D :P


    As for my choices:

    Kazon. Bargain bin Klingon ripoffs. Complete with lice.

    Pakleds. Does it really warrant explanation?

    Almost all races that look exactly like humans. (Cause, you know, LAZY.)

    Floating balls of Light. (Again, LAZY.)
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Species 8472.

    Yes, I really never liked them. ALL they were originally made for was:

    1. To pussify the Borg (the first one of many times this would happen on Voyager)
    2. To be a 'greater threat' (but this was easily tossed aside because of the ubership Voyager was)
    3. To get 7 of 9 on the show.


    For all the qualms and issues I have with the game, Species 8472 have been done much more like they were seen in Voyager, but better. They don't care, they won't stop, and they just want us gone, period. Yes it's true we don't see much of the Undine in the game, but eh, let's just put that aside for now.



    All of the species in TOS that didn't live on past it.

    Basically, all those one-time species that were there to serve as little more than a 'human morality lesson'. I know TOS is old, etc etc, it still bugs the heck outta me.



    TNG-era Romulans. Not DS9 Romulans though.


    Honestly, the TNG version of Romulans always annoyed me to no end, being treated, particuarly Commander Tomalok, as the 'Saturday morning cartoon' villian. It pretty much went like this:

    Bridge Crew: blah blah blah, Romulans are doing something bad!
    Picard: Hmm...Neutral zone, warp 9, engage!
    Evil Romulan: Blah blah, I'm not evil, blah blah.
    Picard: Yes you are, and here's what we found out about what you were gonna do.
    Evil Romulan: Curses! I'll get you next time, and your little dog too!
    Picard: Once again we saved the Federation from war.
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  • aestuaestu Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hirogen. Pure misandry.
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  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The Xindi as that is from the alternate unverse of that show.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Are humans any different? :D :P


    As for my choices:

    Kazon. Bargain bin Klingon ripoffs. Complete with lice.

    Pakleds. Does it really warrant explanation?

    Almost all races that look exactly like humans. (Cause, you know, LAZY.)

    Floating balls of Light. (Again, LAZY.)
    Hey! I like Isabella's race! It was much more creative than most ST races. Short version for those who didn't see Imaginary Friend: her race is as far from humanoid as you can get. The race not only doesn't live in a Class-M environment but doesn't live on planets at all. Instead, they live in the Nebula FGC 47. The members of her race are apparently made of of some sort of energized plasma. I really wish they'd get used again.

    But anyways.... Back to Klingons. Truthfully, yeah some humans are just as bad with that honor TRIBBLE as Klingons are, there are some with actual brains though.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    The Edo (TNG 'Justice').

    I can't even begin to describe how loathsome they were, with their 'running everywhere is the best thing in the universe' attitude, ridiculous clothing and death sentence for stepping on the lawn. I shall stop there as further comment would prompt moderation of my post!
    Yeah, they were a really dumb idea. And they were boring humanoids.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited November 2012
    JJ Abrams new romulans...............CHEEP

    The Delta quadrent race who pirate peoples body parts.......Exterminate

    Human type races with only tatoos or skin color as a difference

    The TOS First Federation race.....Where were they when the borg attacked ? Cowards
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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Packleds-How does a species with down syndrome achive warp drive?

    Hirogen-The dollar store/go-bots version of "predator".

    Kazon-Ghetto/trailer park trash of the Delta quadrant.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    cptjhunter wrote: »
    Packleds-How does a species with down syndrome achive warp drive?

    I guess you missed the part about them only appearing to be idiots. Remember all that "junk" on the pakled ship? Stolen, reverse engineered and improved from various other folks.
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I guess you missed the part about them only appearing to be idiots. Remember all that "junk" on the pakled ship? Stolen, reverse engineered and improved from various other folks.

    Canon aside, they still suck.;)
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Pakleds. How did a race of people with the intellectual capacity of a 3 year old ever get to space and are able to remain there?
    You make a good point.
    sollvax wrote: »
    Cardassians. A race that willfully occupies another race for decades does not deserve mercy when its their turn to lose.
    Hitler was evil, and many (during the times of World War I & II) would have stated that all Germans were evil. This isn't the case. Most of those soilders were simply following orders for fear that if they didn't, the lives of themselves and their families would be forfeit. You can't condemn humanity for the act of one man.

    As a whole, I'd think Cardassians a rather proud people; Damar seemed to think this way. Sure, some of their actions might have been questionable (Damar killing Ziyal) but from Damars point of view, Ziyal has betrayed his people.

    Cardassians aren't evil. It isn't the entire species, only some select individuals. ;)

    I can't think on minor races; boy there have been so many I've thought stupid, but I'm going to vote Kazon. They're essentially Klingon wannabees. They've a code of honour, but it's a bit backwards, they work in clans (similar to Klingon houses) and they live on dark ships that look like they're about to fall apart. :P
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  • nalbertanalberta Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ferengi from season 1 of TNG, The Last Outpost episode. Fortunately they get some improvements. Fortunately I never saw this episode till TNG went into syndication years after it originally aired, otherwise this episode would have turned me off.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hitler was evil, and many (during the times of World War I & II) would have stated that all Germans were evil. This isn't the case. Most of those soilders were simply following orders for fear that if they didn't, the lives of themselves and their families would be forfeit. You can't condemn humanity for the act of one man.

    Hitler was one man (a loony) and yet we WERE judged on him (see some adaptions of the day the earth stood still)


    As a whole, I'd think Cardassians a rather proud people; Damar seemed to think this way. Sure, some of their actions might have been questionable (Damar killing Ziyal) but from Damars point of view, Ziyal has betrayed his people.

    nah they are just evil
    look at the holographic one in voyager torturing a hologram
    Proud peoples never occupy
    they Defeat occupiers
    Cardassians aren't evil. It isn't the entire species, only some select individuals.

    Thats like saying that not all Ferengi like money
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  • tebsutebsu Member Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    clearly.. ocampa and bajoran. all those whiny species. i also do not believe in god or anything else and so i also do not like any religious stuff in star trek.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Hitler was one man (a loony) and yet we WERE judged on him (see some adaptions of the day the earth stood still)
    The Day the Earth Stood Still is just a film, a piece of fiction ...then again, so is Star Trek. :P
    sollvax wrote: »
    look at the holographic one in voyager torturing a hologram
    There was a Cardassian in TNG "Lower Decks" that risked his life to get a message to the Federation. In that episode there was a dialogue between him and a Bajoran in which he stated he was tired of war. That Cardassian wasn't evil. Damar wasn't evil, he was doing what he thought right by his people. You spoke of a hologram, there was a second (female) hologram in another episode of Voyager that wasn't evil, she helped Torres I think.

    You can't sum up an entire species / country as evil because of the actions of a few individuals. Look at the war in Iraq / Iran. There were stories (some of them, quite possibly true) of US solders TRIBBLE and attacking civilians. Does that make all Americans evil? No it doesn't.

    Just because you get a bad bunch in a crowd, it doesn't mean the entire crowd are bad people.
    sollvax wrote: »
    Thats like saying that not all Ferengi like money
    Ferengi join Starfleet. Nog has joined Starfleet. I don't recall Nog being that concerned with Latinium toward the later seasons of DS9. ;)
    flash525 wrote: »
    I can't think on minor races; boy there have been so many I've thought stupid, but I'm going to vote Kazon. They're essentially Klingon wannabees. They've a code of honour, but it's a bit backwards, they work in clans (similar to Klingon houses) and they live on dark ships that look like they're about to fall apart. :P
    I wish to change my vote, whilst the Kazon are still unfavourable, they can go down to second place. My first place of unfavourable aliens has to go to the Wormhole Aliens.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The Day the Earth Stood Still is just a film, a piece of fiction ...then again, so is Star Trek.

    true
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sollvax
    look at the holographic one in voyager torturing a hologram

    There was a Cardassian in TNG "Lower Decks" that risked his life to get a message to the Federation.

    Treason (an Evil act)
    In that episode there was a dialogue between him and a Bajoran in which he stated he was tired of war. That Cardassian wasn't evil. Damar wasn't evil, he was doing what he thought right by his people. You spoke of a hologram, there was a second (female) hologram in another episode of Voyager that wasn't evil, she helped Torres I think.

    Doing what is right for your people TO someone else is evil yes
    You can't sum up an entire species / country as evil because of the actions of a few individuals. Look at the war in Iraq / Iran. There were stories (some of them, quite possibly true) of US solders TRIBBLE and attacking civilians. Does that make all Americans evil? No it doesn't.

    political so ill skip that one
    but as an ex soldier myself I can tell you if one of us did that our own people would hang us out to dry


    Just because you get a bad bunch in a crowd, it doesn't mean the entire crowd are bad people.

    the whole point of trek races is they are stereo types
    Ferengi are greedy , Cardassians are evil , romulans are militaristic , Klingons are proud and agressive , borg eat their own dead etc
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sollvax
    Thats like saying that not all Ferengi like money

    Ferengi join Starfleet. Nog has joined Starfleet. I don't recall Nog being that concerned with Latinium toward the later seasons of DS9.

    Ferengi join starfleet for the free health care extensive perks and easy access to Clothed females
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Cardassians are evil
    I wouldn't go so far as to call the Cardassians 'evil', but without question, they do seem to have a genetic proclivity to sadism and abusive behavior.
    sollvax wrote: »
    Ferengi join starfleet for the free health care extensive perks and easy access to Clothed females
    Kinky or what??
    :D
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