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mrsnesbitmrsnesbit Member Posts: 18 Arc User
Good day,
since Christmas is drawing close and the patch notes on tribble show a reworking of Breen ships models I think it's pretty safe to assume we're going to get something like a Breen box.
I'd like to know what you're thinking it's going to be like.
The Chel Grett cruiser known from DS9 seems like the most probable choice.I think it's going to be a Sciscort hybrid vessel like the tac Vesta and the Mobius. In the show it was very agile for its size and able to keep up with the JH bug and the Defiant. Considering the militaristic nature of the Breen it really should have a tactical focus. The energy dampening weapon otoh just scream Sci to me. The Breen are also among the biggest users of Sci abilities ingame.

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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i suspect it will be a winter event lock box. makes sense as its the breen.

    I think it will be the cruiser but with a lot of universal consoles for what ever a player wishes it to be.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i suspect it will be a winter event lock box. makes sense as its the breen.

    I think it will be the cruiser but with a lot of universal consoles for what ever a player wishes it to be.

    I'll predict an "Energy Dissipator" console which acts as the Polaron equivalent of plasmodic leech and/or a major transphasic weapons buff effect.
  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    agreed

    they NEVER update old art assets (ships), if they don't intend to sell them.

    sad but true.


    I expect at least 2 Breen Ships, one in the Winter Box, one in the Lobi Store.

    +1 low value Mirror Universe Ship again for FED+KDF


    Breen + Winter go kinda together, both have the "cold" theme going on. Fits logically together.


    Judging by Breen NPC's it will be a SCI heavy Cruiser.


    Personally i hate SCI Ships and we had a lot of them lately (Wells, Tholian Ships, Vesta... all SCI SCI SCI...)



    also it is about time that the Promote BOff to Player Captain ability is added to the game!
    My personal gameplay style demands that my Captain fits to the Ship he flies.

    Ferengi Captain in D'Kora
    Cardassian Captain in Galor
    fake Alien Jem'Hadar in Jem'Hadar Bug....

    i skipped the Tholian Ships because i can't have a Tholian Captain (and because they are too sci heavy for my taste).


    Breen Ship... i would love to have one (if it is a Cruiser with some TAC ability and consoles!), but by now i would only want it if i can have a Breen player Captain, if everybody can have a Breen BOff then why no Captain?



    dStahl you hear me? ALT your BOff ASAP PLZ!

    i'd even try to buy another Jem'Hadar Bug when i get a real Jem'Hadar Captain!
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    zerobang wrote: »
    agreed

    they NEVER update old art assets (ships), if they don't intend to sell them.

    sad but true.


    I expect at least 2 Breen Ships, one in the Winter Box, one in the Lobi Store.

    +1 low value Mirror Universe Ship again for FED+KDF


    Breen + Winter go kinda together, both have the "cold" theme going on. Fits logically together.


    Judging by Breen NPC's it will be a SCI heavy Cruiser.


    Personally i hate SCI Ships and we had a lot of them lately (Wells, Tholian Ships, Vesta... all SCI SCI SCI...)



    also it is about time that the Promote BOff to Player Captain ability is added to the game!
    My personal gameplay style demands that my Captain fits to the Ship he flies.

    Ferengi Captain in D'Kora
    Cardassian Captain in Galor
    fake Alien Jem'Hadar in Jem'Hadar Bug....

    i skipped the Tholian Ships because i can't have a Tholian Captain (and because they are too sci heavy for my taste).


    Breen Ship... i would love to have one (if it is a Cruiser with some TAC ability and consoles!), but by now i would only want it if i can have a Breen player Captain, if everybody can have a Breen BOff then why no Captain?



    dStahl you hear me? ALT your BOff ASAP PLZ!

    i'd even try to buy another Jem'Hadar Bug when i get a real Jem'Hadar Captain!

    I'm surprised they didn't run with the "Cold" pun and have Future Guy take over as the Winter Event coordinator.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    zerobang wrote: »
    Ferengi Captain in D'Kora
    fake Alien Cardassian Captain in Galor
    fake Alien Jem'Hadar in Jem'Hadar Bug
    Fixed. ;)
    zerobang wrote: »
    Breen Ship... i would love to have one (if it is a Cruiser with some TAC ability and consoles!), but by now i would only want it if i can have a Breen player Captain, if everybody can have a Breen BOff then why no Captain?
    Maybe they've already given us this option with alien creator? They're allowing you to create the Breen (per your imagination) without the mask. :P
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    Fixed. ;)

    uhm... right
    it's an Alien Creator Cardassian, but the parts are all there, so its not a FAKE... it's REAL !

    the Jem'Hadar is FAKE... because i had to improvise with wrong parts to make it somewhat kinda look like it...
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    zerobang wrote: »
    uhm... right
    it's an Alien Creator Cardassian, but the parts are all there, so its not a FAKE... it's REAL !

    the Jem'Hadar is FAKE... because i had to improvise with wrong parts to make it somewhat kinda look like it...
    My Mistake. I thought you'd just worded it wrong, that's all. :)
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  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bleth Chaos Fighter for the Lobi store.

    Sarr Theln Warship, built like a heavy Flight Deck cruiser, for the top ship in the Lobi Store.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,901 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll predict an "Energy Dissipator" console which acts as the Polaron equivalent of plasmodic leech and/or a major transphasic weapons buff effect.

    That would be kind of cool, I just hope they don't choose a extremely ugly Breen ship.
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  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'm assuming it is a Chel Grett. With the Carrier and a Shuttle in the Lobi Store. Along with the Breen Pain Stick. Hopefully a few Breen Costumes in the Lobi Store too.

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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,901 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bleth Chaos Fighter for the Lobi store.

    Sarr Theln Warship, built like a heavy Flight Deck cruiser, for the top ship in the Lobi Store.

    A carrier...I would love that so much! Now got me hoping this comes to light!
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Anyone got before/after shots of the changed Breen ships?
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll predict an "Energy Dissipator" console which acts as the Polaron equivalent of plasmodic leech and/or a major transphasic weapons buff effect.

    I'd imagine the console would act more like the Tholian Thermionic Torpedo launcher, but drain power from all ship systems instead.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll predict an "Energy Dissipator" console which acts as the Polaron equivalent of plasmodic leech and/or a major transphasic weapons buff effect.
    Or... the 3 pc Breen set bonus? Just tossing that in there for consideration.... It does kinda work...
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  • jacenjacen24jacenjacen24 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    lianthelia wrote: »
    That would be kind of cool, I just hope they don't choose a extremely ugly Breen ship.

    They will. They have no choice. All the breen ships are ugly ships.
  • mrsnesbitmrsnesbit Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Or... the 3 pc Breen set bonus? Just tossing that in there for consideration.... It does kinda work...
    I still think the ship is going to get a console with a similiar effect. Maybe it works less like Energy syphon and more like Viral Matrix.
    They will. They have no choice. All the breen ships are ugly ships.
    I think they look very unique. The show's CGI model of the Chel Grett looks much better than the ingame model, at least. They certainly don't look practical, I'll give you that.
    I'd be fine if people think it looks ugly, might lower its price on the exchange :S
  • qweeble#7491 qweeble Member Posts: 164 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2012
    zerobang wrote: »
    agreed

    they NEVER update old art assets (ships), if they don't intend to sell them.

    sad but true.





    Well, that's not true at all.



    I've updated ship hull materials over time include all the following factions/species/races. Some playable, some not. Some are big updates, some are small.

    Gorn, Breen, Borg, Nausicaan, Starfleet, Klingon, Generic Ship, Jem'Hadar, Fek'Ihri, Cardassian, Ferengi, Romulan, & Tholian. ... and more to come.

    Geometry updates include far too many ships to count, most of them being NPC updates & fixes. Usually when I go in to fix a bug related to something simple, I try to take some extra time and pretty-up the geometry. Sometimes this is for ships we sell, sometimes not.
    Latest examples the many of the NPC capitol ships/dreadnoughts you might see in some of your Starbase-related missions, and some of the NPC fighters.

    Slowly, over-time, you'll see the old NPC ship materials fade away and be replaced with materials that meet the new standard. Romulan ships were the last ones I updated, a few weeks before the launch of Season 7. You can get a pretty good look at them from the Azure Nebula Rescue mission.

    Granted, sometimes when a ship is rebuilt for one purpose, it gets repurposed for something else -- the D'Kora, for example, was something I wanted to rebuild when I created the dilithium mining asteroid map, the current NPC ship didn't cut it for me. In the end, it was decided to create a fully fleshed out version that was player-ship-quality.


    In the end, don't always take NPC ship updates as a cue for what ship is coming up next.



    Alas, aside from that very specific point, continue your speculation.
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  • thisisoverlordthisisoverlord Member Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Well, that's not true at all.



    I've updated ship hull materials over time include all the following factions/species/races. Some playable, some not. Some are big updates, some are small.

    Gorn, Breen, Borg, Nausicaan, Starfleet, Klingon, Generic Ship, Jem'Hadar, Fek'Ihri, Cardassian, Ferengi, Romulan, & Tholian. ... and more to come.

    Geometry updates include far too many ships to count, most of them being NPC updates & fixes. Usually when I go in to fix a bug related to something simple, I try to take some extra time and pretty-up the geometry. Sometimes this is for ships we sell, sometimes not.
    Latest examples the many of the NPC capitol ships/dreadnoughts you might see in some of your Starbase-related missions, and some of the NPC fighters.

    Slowly, over-time, you'll see the old NPC ship materials fade away and be replaced with materials that meet the new standard. Romulan ships were the last ones I updated, a few weeks before the launch of Season 7. You can get a pretty good look at them from the Azure Nebula Rescue mission.

    Granted, sometimes when a ship is rebuilt for one purpose, it gets repurposed for something else -- the D'Kora, for example, was something I wanted to rebuild when I created the dilithium mining asteroid map, the current NPC ship didn't cut it for me. In the end, it was decided to create a fully fleshed out version that was player-ship-quality.


    In the end, don't always take NPC ship updates as a cue for what ship is coming up next.



    Alas, aside from that very specific point, continue your speculation.

    Oh come on, the Breen are a Winter People... they are perfect for a Christmas SlotMachine :D
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  • qweeble#7491 qweeble Member Posts: 164 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2012
    Oh come on, the Breen are a Winter People... they are perfect for a Christmas SlotMachine :D

    Not saying anything about that, just saying that we do update old ships regularly, without any intent to sell them. You'll just have to sit tight and wait for specifics on the winter-update to put an end to the speculation.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Well, that's not true at all.
    I can't speak for the Jem Hadar Destroyer or the Ferengi D'Kora, but I know for a fact that the Cardassian Galor got a brand new model update when it was to be lock box material.

    I suspect you're just trying to throw people off the scent. ;)
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited November 2012
    Oh come on, the Breen are a Winter People... they are perfect for a Christmas SlotMachine :D

    You know, I heard it's actually quite pleasant on Breen. Why they wear the suits, no one can say...
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    drogyn1701 wrote: »
    You know, I heard it's actually quite pleasant on Breen. Why they wear the suits, no one can say...
    That's just a rumour stated by Weyoun. ;)
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  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Not saying anything about that, just saying that we do update old ships regularly, without any intent to sell them. You'll just have to sit tight and wait for specifics on the winter-update to put an end to the speculation.

    Ok Ok

    ...
    BUT
    If there was one Breen ship that you REALLY wanted to make Player so people can enjoy, which would it be?
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  • mellestadstomellestadsto Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Geometry updates include far too many ships to count, most of them being NPC updates & fixes. Usually when I go in to fix a bug related to something simple, I try to take some extra time and pretty-up the geometry. Sometimes this is for ships we sell, sometimes not.
    Latest examples the many of the NPC capitol ships/dreadnoughts you might see in some of your Starbase-related missions, and some of the NPC fighters.



    I hope there is a bug with the Steamrunner soon then :P

    The nacelles would look so much better if the hull had cowels covering the nacelles (like they are armor) instead of just having the nacelles clip through the hull.
  • thisisoverlordthisisoverlord Member Posts: 949 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Not saying anything about that, just saying that we do update old ships regularly, without any intent to sell them. You'll just have to sit tight and wait for specifics on the winter-update to put an end to the speculation.

    For sure but you know I mean Breen are cold and winter is cold... so you know :P

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  • joshl7889joshl7889 Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It wont b the breen. It will b Andorian because the andorian ship is due out some time in the next month or so
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    joshl7889 wrote: »
    It wont b the breen. It will b Andorian because the andorian ship is due out some time in the next month or so
    It's more likely to be a Breen ship than an Andorian ship.

    Whatever ship they choose has to be use-able by both FED and KDF players. Having an Andorian ship use-able by KDF players just wouldn't make any sense. The Andorians are members of Starfleet, not the Klingon Defence Force.

    The Andorian Ship is coming, but it'll be FED only, and not related to the Christmas Theme.
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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    drogyn1701 wrote: »
    You know, I heard it's actually quite pleasant on Breen. Why they wear the suits, no one can say...

    Read the Typhon Pact novels as its explained on one of those quite well ... Love their version of the Breen.

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    genhauk wrote: »
    Read the Typhon Pact novels as its explained on one of those quite well ... Love their version of the Breen.
    Could you elaborate here? I'm quite interested.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Romulan ships were the last ones I updated, a few weeks before the launch of Season 7.

    thought so, i remember how just horrible the romulan npc ships were up close, the D'd especially looks MUCH better. but its still about half the size it should be.

    as far as nasican, gorn and orian ships go, why haven't the player use ships basically replaced nearly all their npc ships?

    there are several player ships that could use some updates, the ktinga for example. the low quality model you will see it switch too has extra glows on it that the 'high quality' model does not. whats up with that?

    people have wanted a pass done on the intrepid model and sovereign model for a long time now, they could use a tough up to look as sharp as the vet ships and other great looking ships you made recently!
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