Right now many people has already said many good points as to why moderation should be limited. There is really no need to restrict people, mute or even ban offenders, since you can always put them on ignore.
How we moderate:
Since once you mute or ban someone its permanent, a person is given 3 warnings before any ban commences. How strict this is enforced is usually by the severity of the offense commited. Since it seems im the only one in there with admin rights i usually talk with other people to see if the allegations commited are as they are, before action is taken.
But for the most parts as ive observed, people do manage to behave properly and as respecting adults. Even as Mai Kai said; Not having moderation in there is the magic and fun of the channel. Word is freely spread and people learns to understand the culture of OrgPvP.
And yes i might be acting like Palpatine with sole power of said channel, but i have no need to act like some dicatator in there, except under circumstances which warrants action to be taken.
Co-founder of The Spanish Inquisition TSI - Cause no one expects it!
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
I think the moderation in OPvP is fine as is and don't really see the need for more mods. If anything, adding a bunch of new mods just invites more opportunity for over moderation and the corresponding drama as mentioned in some of the previous posts. Ignore exists for a reason, and if someone is doing something that is truly worthy of mod action, chances are that they will be silenced from ignores before a mod is even aware of the issue. That said, I can't even recall any instances where I've felt the need to use ignore on anyone in OPvP anyway.
_________________________ TRIBBLE | -Show Me Your Critz- Svarog | Veles | et al.
I didnt realize the opvp chat channel was falling apart... oh wait...
the organizedpvp chat channel has never really been moderated. if someone has a probelm with someone speaking on that channel.... thats what ignore is for.
ive never seen a troll repel people either, theres usually other people who tell anyone new to ignore whoever is trying to troll.
if it aint broke why fix it? we dont need the organizedpvp chat channel to become like cryptic.
if someone calls you a name, call'm a name right back. -wild wild west-
OPvP isn't perfect but it certainly doesn't need to become one of those overly moderated channels. The tools to shield ourselves from unpleasantness already exist. People need to take personal responsibility for filtering what they do and don't want to read.
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It's terrible but easy, and these Borg are way cooler than the mess STO and Voyager left us.
May not actually be "way" cooler or even "slightly" cooler.
This channel has aged so much that now not only the creator of the channel is long gone, but the last admin, Aytanhi is also gone with no desire to return is what I understand from other TSI members.
In the interest of maintaining the channel, and keeping it clean, we need new moderators since we cannot get new admins.
I am not sure if admins can appoint moderators. However, even the last moderators Sivar and Minimax are now either inactive most of the time due to other life obligations or have left to play other games.
I kindly ask to consider the following recommendations for moderator status on the following people:
Hank of Turkish RP Heroes - Inner Circle
Kedric of TRIBBLE.
Thales of Show Me Your Critz
Sibok of X-Treme - TSI
Hilbert of TSI
Pug of Federation Emergency Services
Anathosion of Sad Pandas
Illusion of ISC
Yoda - Turkish RP Heroes - Devils Rejects
Gallileos - 106th
Damian - Show Me Your Critz
These guys have demonstrated on most occasions an impartial attitude towards all. Although I have not discussed it with them personally, I think they would be the best candidates based on the aforementioned most important fact about being impartial. Also, their active status, and their time zones of activity also attributes my nomination. All of these guys are part of a PvP fleet, and have extensive relationships with other PvP fleets.
If we can get Aytanhi on the horn to make this possible, it would be in the best interest to sustain what's left of a PvP community.
If not, I can see the creation of a new channel in the near foreseeable future.
Translation "I want my friends or people that I think I can persuade as moderators of the channel"
Go ahead and start your new channel man. I flip the tab maybe twice a week anyway. Best of luck .
In all seriousness if you want to increase the cohesiveness of the PvP community please ask folks to stop raging in that channel, ask them to stop being devisive, and ask them to genuinely help other people.
[OrganizedPVP] Menderes@PaxOttomana: im gonna sn doff this ***** queen <<< also, stop telling tall tales on your use of special doffs. That might help increase overall knowledge.
NoobPvPer: Hey is this the channel for PvPers?
Troll: shut up nub
NoobPvPer:What?
Troll: shut up nub
NoobPvPer: Can someone answer my question?
Troll: shut up nub
NoobPvPer:please stop trolling me.
Troll: shut up nub
NoobPvPer:argh TRIBBLE this...
Troll: shut up nub
Good luck dealing with this. That noob can be the next Yoda, Thales, Aytanhi, MT, Era, Hank, etc. But guess what, he was poorly treated. So, his PvP development is curbed due to trolling in that channel.
I've never seen this happen. I'm sure it has on occasion, but i've never seen it happen. Infact the closest was when a new player can in asking questions and players from a certain fleet just bull****ted him with random TRIBBLE that had no relation whatsoever to his needs. That made me annoyed. But big deal, if one new player in 10 is driven away i think thats a pretty good ratio.
Especially when 9/10 new players are driven away by ACTUAL pug arena PVP regardless.
Are new players going to be scared away by 1 troll, or by a community of players who are so far ahead in terms of experience, doffs, ships, weapons, consoles, friends, voice comms etc. Hmm, I wonder.
OPVP needs no new mods.
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A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre. 2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
Seems we have this discussion every few months when someone gets there knickers in a twist.
We don't need no stinking mods.
Seriously If I was emerald when I created the chan I would have removed myself from the mod slot and just had no mods period.
Damn people you have an ignore button if you don't like what someone is saying use it... if a few of your freinds feel the same way the system will even kick in a 24hr silence for the troll.
Why is it that we need people to be general muted again ? seems to me the majority should rule and the way the system works and considering there is almost always 100+ people online in Opvp should it not police it self with out the need for any ego stroking....
Not that I have anything against anyone that is a mod now has been a mod in the past or Paxs list of suggested people now... its just redundant and unneeded imo.
If you are to actually have moderators appointed, you shouldn't have racists/homophobes/sexists/and otherwise highly offensive players moderating. These are the most bias type of people, Polite, responsive, impartial and logical, this is required for moderating :P
This channel has aged so much that now not only the creator of the channel is long gone, but the last admin, Aytanhi is also gone with no desire to return is what I understand from other TSI members.
In the interest of maintaining the channel, and keeping it clean, we need new moderators since we cannot get new admins.
I am not sure if admins can appoint moderators. However, even the last moderators Sivar and Minimax are now either inactive most of the time due to other life obligations or have left to play other games.
I kindly ask to consider the following recommendations for moderator status on the following people:
Hank of Turkish RP Heroes - Inner Circle
Kedric of TRIBBLE.
Thales of Show Me Your Critz
Sibok of X-Treme - TSI
Hilbert of TSI
Pug of Federation Emergency Services
Anathosion of Sad Pandas
Illusion of ISC
Yoda - Turkish RP Heroes - Devils Rejects
Gallileos - 106th
Damian - Show Me Your Critz
These guys have demonstrated on most occasions an impartial attitude towards all. Although I have not discussed it with them personally, I think they would be the best candidates based on the aforementioned most important fact about being impartial. Also, their active status, and their time zones of activity also attributes my nomination. All of these guys are part of a PvP fleet, and have extensive relationships with other PvP fleets.
If we can get Aytanhi on the horn to make this possible, it would be in the best interest to sustain what's left of a PvP community.
If not, I can see the creation of a new channel in the near foreseeable future.
OPvP's situation is.......difficult at best right now.
I'm still around and when I'm there I do what I can to keep the peace, but it is not easy, if I let stuff go then people get mad and/or discouraged with the channel while if I crack down on something I have to deal with people sending me tells telling me to calm down and not mute people. I think Mini said I was the last mod who still cared, and for the most part I like to think that I've been fair in the job since I took it two years ago.
As for channel moderators, if Devoras is an Admin then yes he can appoint new Moderators, as can the other Admins if you can catch them online (Linty, Aytanhi and Kai). As for channel ownership itself, unless somebody knows how to get in touch with TyBushman well.....anyway.
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How we moderate:
Since once you mute or ban someone its permanent, a person is given 3 warnings before any ban commences. How strict this is enforced is usually by the severity of the offense commited. Since it seems im the only one in there with admin rights i usually talk with other people to see if the allegations commited are as they are, before action is taken.
But for the most parts as ive observed, people do manage to behave properly and as respecting adults. Even as Mai Kai said; Not having moderation in there is the magic and fun of the channel. Word is freely spread and people learns to understand the culture of OrgPvP.
And yes i might be acting like Palpatine with sole power of said channel, but i have no need to act like some dicatator in there, except under circumstances which warrants action to be taken.
PaxOttomana: gawd mirror event is like fighting a tsi premade, they keep comin and comin!
TRIBBLE | -Show Me Your Critz-
Svarog | Veles | et al.
the organizedpvp chat channel has never really been moderated. if someone has a probelm with someone speaking on that channel.... thats what ignore is for.
ive never seen a troll repel people either, theres usually other people who tell anyone new to ignore whoever is trying to troll.
if it aint broke why fix it? we dont need the organizedpvp chat channel to become like cryptic.
if someone calls you a name, call'm a name right back. -wild wild west-
Do you even Science Bro?
It's terrible but easy, and these Borg are way cooler than the mess STO and Voyager left us.
Translation "I want my friends or people that I think I can persuade as moderators of the channel"
Go ahead and start your new channel man. I flip the tab maybe twice a week anyway. Best of luck .
In all seriousness if you want to increase the cohesiveness of the PvP community please ask folks to stop raging in that channel, ask them to stop being devisive, and ask them to genuinely help other people.
[OrganizedPVP] Menderes@PaxOttomana: im gonna sn doff this ***** queen <<< also, stop telling tall tales on your use of special doffs. That might help increase overall knowledge.
Lol .... that made me falafelstomp.
Yeah, that's right.
WHA!? making your own channel!? What a concept.
im up for whatever the community sees fit, thanks for the nod.
have fun kill bad guys
Please be sure to talk to him first before adding him to the list though
Next someone will suggest mikey with admin/mod rights. That would be funny too!
/muted
I've never seen this happen. I'm sure it has on occasion, but i've never seen it happen. Infact the closest was when a new player can in asking questions and players from a certain fleet just bull****ted him with random TRIBBLE that had no relation whatsoever to his needs. That made me annoyed. But big deal, if one new player in 10 is driven away i think thats a pretty good ratio.
Especially when 9/10 new players are driven away by ACTUAL pug arena PVP regardless.
Are new players going to be scared away by 1 troll, or by a community of players who are so far ahead in terms of experience, doffs, ships, weapons, consoles, friends, voice comms etc. Hmm, I wonder.
OPVP needs no new mods.
@Aquitaine985
Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre.
2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
We don't need no stinking mods.
Seriously If I was emerald when I created the chan I would have removed myself from the mod slot and just had no mods period.
Damn people you have an ignore button if you don't like what someone is saying use it... if a few of your freinds feel the same way the system will even kick in a 24hr silence for the troll.
Why is it that we need people to be general muted again ? seems to me the majority should rule and the way the system works and considering there is almost always 100+ people online in Opvp should it not police it self with out the need for any ego stroking....
Not that I have anything against anyone that is a mod now has been a mod in the past or Paxs list of suggested people now... its just redundant and unneeded imo.
and @greenpig
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OPvP's situation is.......difficult at best right now.
I'm still around and when I'm there I do what I can to keep the peace, but it is not easy, if I let stuff go then people get mad and/or discouraged with the channel while if I crack down on something I have to deal with people sending me tells telling me to calm down and not mute people. I think Mini said I was the last mod who still cared, and for the most part I like to think that I've been fair in the job since I took it two years ago.
As for channel moderators, if Devoras is an Admin then yes he can appoint new Moderators, as can the other Admins if you can catch them online (Linty, Aytanhi and Kai). As for channel ownership itself, unless somebody knows how to get in touch with TyBushman well.....anyway.
Support a KDF equivalent to the Vesta Here