TOR isn't a real competition, anyone who played it knows that. As many problems as this game has, I came back very very fast after my disillusioning run with TOR. And that was before the laughable F2P system they came up with where you need to pay for content.
Sure for a month or two I guess Cryptic will notice it in the player numbers when a lot of people will try out TOR. But 90% will come back. I have no doubt about that.
dont go counting your chicken's before they hatch swtor is not trying to be like a PWE and plz tor is better in so many ways one lots to do in it before it truns in to doing the same thing over and over for almost 3 years only reason i hang around here is for the star trek ip swtor is trying to go for SUB'S by not giveing all the QQers every thing for FREE so again TOR is not trying to be a PWE game!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL - I wonder if he read my thread that confirms what i had been expecting - "console clicking" will no longer work come S7 for Investigate officer daily
Hope that's not why you are leaving - there are still lots and lots of other things to do. I have 3000 hours on this game and I am still not bored yet.
They say good bye to STO every Season since four. Anyways, Right now the prevailing attitude with TOR players that this the f2p plan is just a test one and hopefully a more-Cryptic style comes out. However, I really don't see this game suffering from a free TOR. It didn't suffer when TOR first came out. Like Rome, only Cryptic can kill STO and every so often they seem to feel to poison it a little.
just like every season some one gets asked by some one should they joing sto they reply this yes this is the best time to join..... and you all know who im talking about
nah patches increase rapidly after every season launch
expecting 3 downtimes a week and at least 2 if not 3 patches per week for at least 3 weeks after the season update
add high latency and lag to the first 3 days
dont expect to play on launch day
and then you should be in the right mindset
PS: after playing the 2 day open beta of TOR i said "i'll play that after it goes F2P"...
didn't expect it to happen so soon, but oh well i guess i have to at least give it another chance now.
TOR isn't a real competition, anyone who played it knows that. As many problems as this game has, I came back very very fast after my disillusioning run with TOR. And that was before the laughable F2P system they came up with where you need to pay for content.
Sure for a month or two I guess Cryptic will notice it in the player numbers when a lot of people will try out TOR. But 90% will come back. I have no doubt about that.
Yeah I came here from TOR after being there since it went online and there's no real competition. TOR has it's good points but the bad far outweigh the good especially space or lack there of. Here I like that while leveling quests not only involve ground but also space in TOR it's all ground with space being an option, and there's no space pvp
STO really has nothing to worry about from TOR as arcademaster says sure people will probably go check out TOR but they will be back. Endgame content there is strictly ops and that's about it here you can do stfs, dailies, and daily events.
Eitherways, I for one am going no-where near it. It's been said before, in other threads on the same subject - you can complain about STO's methods of gaining financial input all you want, but the fact that you have to pay for your character to be able to sprint/run on ToR kinda puts that into perspective, and if that's their attitude toward their playerbase...
And it's also been said before that this is misinformation.
You don't NEED to pay them to be able to sprint...you CAN do that.
Or you CAN just reach level 15, at which point you automatically gain the ability to sprint.
And given you couldn't run in the release version until about that same level anyway this is an entirely imaginary disadvantage.
So you have to wait until level 15 to do something as basic as 'run'. Still don't see how that's a good thing.
Okay, I'll try again:
when the game was launched you couldn't run until about that same level so the content at that same level is designed around that fact.
I played that content and I didn't really notice that I couldn't run because it's not needed.
So now, people who pay a sub can run...in content where it's not really required while the people who don't sub can't.
Which means they're basically where the people who used to sub were back then.
And it wasn't a bad spot either.
So it's a complaint about a feature you don't need.
Okay, I'll try again:
when the game was launched you couldn't run until about that same level so the content at that same level is designed around that fact.
I played that content and I didn't really notice that I couldn't run because it's not needed.
So now, people who pay a sub can run...in content where it's not really required while the people who don't sub can't.
Which means they're basically where the people who used to sub were back then.
And it wasn't a bad spot either.
So it's a complaint about a feature you don't need.
This^^^^^
It was a non issue in beta that you unlocked "running" at level 15 (even though technically you run and do not walk even with this off..), but a few people gave the idea that it would be nice to be able to run from the beginning, and Bioware made it happen.
I see it as a good subscriber perk, but in reality it is not needed before level 15 anyways...
I have to work from 3-11pm EST, so won't be in-game till much later tonight...
When I get home tonight, I will probably do a few STF's just for the memories and then park by the edge of Tau Dewa so I can jump right in tomorrow, after Season 7 gets turned on...
(I'm off tomorrow... Yeaaay)
How about you...?
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Going to queue up some finished missions on Defera so I can turn them in and hopefully just start my first round of Omega projects and head to Tau Dewa.
I have to work from 3-11pm EST, so won't be in-game till much later tonight...
When I get home tonight, I will probably do a few STF's just for the memories and then park by the edge of Tau Dewa so I can jump right in tomorrow, after Season 7 gets turned on...
(I'm off tomorrow... Yeaaay)
How about you...?
Grinding what dilith I can now out of B'tran, takin advantage of the officer daily foundry console click one last time.
Turning any unused EDCs, prototype tech for dilith.
Makin sure all my characters have run the request for personnel doff mission at the academy, (the general recruitment). I have a feellin doffs are gonna get a lot more valuable soon.... Buyin up a few general recruitment off the exchange now.
Eagerly anticipating my Vesta, scouring the forums for as much info as possible on it, formulating builds in my head.
Sadly not off tomorrow, but I needz the money, the inlaws are comin over for the holiday
next week.....sooooo everything haz to be just perfect fer em, (WON'T stop them from finding somethin to ***** about tho : / ) TMI moment over :P
I wont be doing a lot as I haven't been doing for a week other than getting as much Dilithium as possible before the hammer falls.
Still got to liquidate some stf currency as well on my 2 other main toons, so see you at DS9 for the End Of An Era Party!
Seems like folks were saying the same thing after Season 5 and 6...
(and maybe even 1,2,3,4, I can't remember...)
Sure the game is going to change, it has after every Season Update...
But you and I are both still here...
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Grinding what dilith I can now out of B'tran, takin advantage of the officer daily foundry console click one last time.
Turning any unused EDCs, prototype tech for dilith.
Makin sure all my characters have run the request for personnel doff mission at the academy, (the general recruitment). I have a feellin doffs are gonna get a lot more valuable soon.... Buyin up a few general recruitment off the exchange now.
Eagerly anticipating my Vesta, scouring the forums for as much info as possible on it, formulating builds in my head.
Sadly not off tomorrow, but I needz the money, the inlaws are comin over for the holiday
next week.....sooooo everything haz to be just perfect fer em, (WON'T stop them from finding somethin to ***** about tho : / ) TMI moment over :P
OOOooo, I forgot about the Vesta... Sadly I won't be able to get it till my next paycheck...
(not that I'm in a hurry to get it... I'm still fiddling with the LB-Time Ship)
Having a few drinks with Commander Roxy. She will be missed
Oh yeah... Gotta head over to her tonight and get a pic.
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
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Cryptic are the ones who gave them the trailer and the date. brandon says it here.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=6468631&postcount=1
They figure with our tractor beams and medical staff arriving on Tuesday.. why wait ? :cool:
With that as there competition I don't understand why Cryptic would shake up their serious players.
Sure for a month or two I guess Cryptic will notice it in the player numbers when a lot of people will try out TOR. But 90% will come back. I have no doubt about that.
system Lord Baal is dead
Yup, they've effectively killed the foundry.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Just keeping you on your toes.
So this has nothing to do with certain other MMOs going F2P on thursday then?
You never know they might try to rush it even earlier now
I am REALLY hoping this does not turn out to be the case for me.
system Lord Baal is dead
expecting 3 downtimes a week and at least 2 if not 3 patches per week for at least 3 weeks after the season update
add high latency and lag to the first 3 days
dont expect to play on launch day
and then you should be in the right mindset
PS: after playing the 2 day open beta of TOR i said "i'll play that after it goes F2P"...
didn't expect it to happen so soon, but oh well i guess i have to at least give it another chance now.
I just hope they get around to fixing the damned bug spray, flash light, party popper and all those's animation by launch.
Yeah I came here from TOR after being there since it went online and there's no real competition. TOR has it's good points but the bad far outweigh the good especially space or lack there of. Here I like that while leveling quests not only involve ground but also space in TOR it's all ground with space being an option, and there's no space pvp
STO really has nothing to worry about from TOR as arcademaster says sure people will probably go check out TOR but they will be back. Endgame content there is strictly ops and that's about it here you can do stfs, dailies, and daily events.
And it's also been said before that this is misinformation.
You don't NEED to pay them to be able to sprint...you CAN do that.
Or you CAN just reach level 15, at which point you automatically gain the ability to sprint.
And given you couldn't run in the release version until about that same level anyway this is an entirely imaginary disadvantage.
Okay, I'll try again:
when the game was launched you couldn't run until about that same level so the content at that same level is designed around that fact.
I played that content and I didn't really notice that I couldn't run because it's not needed.
So now, people who pay a sub can run...in content where it's not really required while the people who don't sub can't.
Which means they're basically where the people who used to sub were back then.
And it wasn't a bad spot either.
So it's a complaint about a feature you don't need.
This^^^^^
It was a non issue in beta that you unlocked "running" at level 15 (even though technically you run and do not walk even with this off..), but a few people gave the idea that it would be nice to be able to run from the beginning, and Bioware made it happen.
I see it as a good subscriber perk, but in reality it is not needed before level 15 anyways...
What's everybody doing??
I have to work from 3-11pm EST, so won't be in-game till much later tonight...
When I get home tonight, I will probably do a few STF's just for the memories and then park by the edge of Tau Dewa so I can jump right in tomorrow, after Season 7 gets turned on...
(I'm off tomorrow... Yeaaay)
How about you...?
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
I'm not off tomorrow, so I won't get to enjoy the new goodies until after I get home from work.
I'm looking forward to jumping into a few fleet actions tomorrow and explore more of New Romulus.
Season 7: End Of An Era....
Has a catchy name
I wont be doing a lot as I haven't been doing for a week other than getting as much Dilithium as possible before the hammer falls.
Still got to liquidate some stf currency as well on my 2 other main toons, so see you at DS9 for the End Of An Era Party!
...And if it doesn't, we'll instead have an update released on time that's FULL of bugs. :P
Grinding what dilith I can now out of B'tran, takin advantage of the officer daily foundry console click one last time.
Turning any unused EDCs, prototype tech for dilith.
Makin sure all my characters have run the request for personnel doff mission at the academy, (the general recruitment). I have a feellin doffs are gonna get a lot more valuable soon.... Buyin up a few general recruitment off the exchange now.
Eagerly anticipating my Vesta, scouring the forums for as much info as possible on it, formulating builds in my head.
Sadly not off tomorrow, but I needz the money, the inlaws are comin over for the holiday
next week.....sooooo everything haz to be just perfect fer em, (WON'T stop them from finding somethin to ***** about tho : / ) TMI moment over :P
Does that mean when Season 7 goes live tomorrow, you're not going to play at all?
What you posted seems more like a Long Term goal, I was kinda-sorta more curious about the next 30 hours...
Seems like folks were saying the same thing after Season 5 and 6...
(and maybe even 1,2,3,4, I can't remember...)
Sure the game is going to change, it has after every Season Update...
But you and I are both still here...
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
OOOooo, I forgot about the Vesta... Sadly I won't be able to get it till my next paycheck...
(not that I'm in a hurry to get it... I'm still fiddling with the LB-Time Ship)
Oh yeah... Gotta head over to her tonight and get a pic.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
I played a Cure ground earlier and snatched a proto weapon tech from the system before I had to grind it out for my Android Boff. Mhuaahahahahaaaaa!
I will play a couple infected Space, maybe I get just as lucky to complete a space set for my Delta Flyer.
Turn in whatever spare EDC I have, doff a little.
Play SWTOR for a change.