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  • stealthriderstealthrider Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    dastahl wrote: »
    You propose an interesting view of the New Romulans... Would you let both Fed and KDF Romulans have access to the same ships in your world? Would you let Romulans fly KDF or Fed ships?

    DStahl, have you ever considered the idea of having "mini-factions?" That is to say, instead of adding Romulans, Cardassians etc as completely separate entities, have you thought of adding these and other races under the Fed/KDF belt with their own mini-story arcs, ships, BOs, etc?

    I'm picturing here something similar to SWTOR's class stories. Your faction choice, Fed or KDF, would choose your overall allegiance in the "great war," but your choice of race would choose what kinds of extra ships you would have access to as well as a small (or perhaps decent-sized) story arc explaining the motivations, actions and private dealings of your race's mini-faction. For example, Romulans would be able to choose Federation or KDF, and in either case they would have access to all of their factions ships plus a few Romulan designs, and they would have a different (perhaps similar at the start, but branching-off later) story arc that would explain why that subset of Romulans joined the Feds or KDF.

    This mini-faction system could even be applied retroactively to other races, even Z-store ones. Vulcans could have their own arc, Gorn could have their own, and Aliens could choose one to be a part of. Not only would this expand the game storyline sideways and give a canon reason for adding certain ship designs and race selections, but it would also be far easier than adding Romulans, Cardassians, etc as entire factions of their own.

    You could even tie it into the Reputation system.

    If the team hasn't considered something like this, I hope they do in the future, as I think it would be an excellent addition to the game.
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    yeah sorry about that. however after i noticed my own error i atempted to edit the post and it wouldn't allow me to do so. :(

    yeah, the new forums rock :D
    DStahl, have you ever considered the idea of having "mini-factions?" That is to say, instead of adding Romulans, Cardassians etc as completely separate entities, have you thought of adding these and other races under the Fed/KDF belt with their own mini-story arcs, ships, BOs, etc?

    I'm picturing here something similar to SWTOR's class stories. Your faction choice, Fed or KDF, would choose your overall allegiance in the "great war," but your choice of race would choose what kinds of extra ships you would have access to as well as a small (or perhaps decent-sized) story arc explaining the motivations, actions and private dealings of your race's mini-faction. For example, Romulans would be able to choose Federation or KDF, and in either case they would have access to all of their factions ships plus a few Romulan designs, and they would have a different (perhaps similar at the start, but branching-off later) story arc that would explain why that subset of Romulans joined the Feds or KDF.

    This mini-faction system could even be applied retroactively to other races, even Z-store ones. Vulcans could have their own arc, Gorn could have their own, and Aliens could choose one to be a part of. Not only would this expand the game storyline sideways and give a canon reason for adding certain ship designs and race selections, but it would also be far easier than adding Romulans, Cardassians, etc as entire factions of their own.

    .

    this means lots of story driven content == no go for cryptic..

    btw - better to do paid factions = free faction with one free ship from lvl 45 up (after reaching this lvl with a fed/kdf char), all other ships/stuff buyable in Z-Store..
  • firekeeperhufirekeeperhu Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    will we able to get Romulan/Reman DOffs or BOffs in the new season? i've read in the dev blogs "romulan officers" many times, but on tribble, all i see is a "consumable" romulan and reman officer in the romulan rep. system list, like a common security escort, wich is plainly ridiculous. it would be nice to have a romulan BOff in the crew, especially, if it would have a SPACE trait (for exemple, efficient, or other space modifying new trait)
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  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    if season 7 has a very good story and we end up rewarded a defector. yes a romulan BO. then thats all fine and good.

    if we end up with a romulan sub faction, where the romulans join the feds or klingons then that is effectivley destroying the RSE not rebuilding it. we would also see 2 major races in the history of star trek having nothing short of an identity crisis romulans and klingons acting like the federation indeed.

    lets face it this game should have launched with 3 or 4 full factions not 2 (or as some say 1 and a half). it's time to catch up in 2013!
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    if season 7 has a very good story and we end up rewarded a defector. yes a romulan BO. then thats all fine and good.

    if we end up with a romulan sub faction, where the romulans join the feds or klingons then that is effectivley destroying the RSE not rebuilding it. we would also see 2 major races in the history of star trek having nothing short of an identity crisis romulans and klingons acting like the federation indeed.

    lets face it this game should have launched with 3 or 4 full factions not 2 (or as some say 1 and a half). it's time to catch up in 2013!

    very well written!
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    if season 7 has a very good story and we end up rewarded a defector. yes a romulan BO. then thats all fine and good.

    if we end up with a romulan sub faction, where the romulans join the feds or klingons then that is effectivley destroying the RSE not rebuilding it. we would also see 2 major races in the history of star trek having nothing short of an identity crisis romulans and klingons acting like the federation indeed.

    I agree./10chars
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    See... This strikes me as the sort of thinking that creeps in from reading the books.

    Going by the shows, the Romulans were and remained allies with a lot of powerful Klingons. It was people like Worf, Martok, and Gowron who were anti-Romulan.

    But I don't think you can take them as wholly representative any more than you can take J'Dan and Duras as wholly representative.

    And in the last TNG film Worf admits to Riker that the Romulans fought with honor during tha Battle of Bassen Rift. So it's not as if Worf is as one note as he's often made out to be either.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    if season 7 has a very good story and we end up rewarded a defector. yes a romulan BO. then thats all fine and good.

    if we end up with a romulan sub faction, where the romulans join the feds or klingons then that is effectivley destroying the RSE not rebuilding it. we would also see 2 major races in the history of star trek having nothing short of an identity crisis romulans and klingons acting like the federation indeed.

    lets face it this game should have launched with 3 or 4 full factions not 2 (or as some say 1 and a half). it's time to catch up in 2013!
    The known rewards from the romulan reputation system include (apparently non-unique) Romulan Boffs.

    I agree though, 4 factions would make the game more fun. :D
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  • firekeeperhufirekeeperhu Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I agree though, 4 factions would make the game more fun. :D

    and that would also made it less-WoW (ali vs horde, fed vs kdf, am i the only one who's confused? :) )
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    if season 7 has a very good story and we end up rewarded a defector. yes a romulan BO. then thats all fine and good.

    if we end up with a romulan sub faction, where the romulans join the feds or klingons then that is effectivley destroying the RSE not rebuilding it. we would also see 2 major races in the history of star trek having nothing short of an identity crisis romulans and klingons acting like the federation indeed.

    lets face it this game should have launched with 3 or 4 full factions not 2 (or as some say 1 and a half). it's time to catch up in 2013!

    I agree but the chance of them making full factions for cardies or romulan is looking more like a dream than reality. We should have guessed when we had the poll when it said playable romulan rather than playable romulan faction.
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