I don't have the authority to do so, and wouldn't even if I did. I love the Foundry dearly, and want to encourage as much play of it as possible.
I also don't have the authority to add Marks of any kind to PvP. It's a discussion that requires examination and discussion by many different parties, and I am not one of the decision-makers in that mix. Just the advocate.
Well then let me help to build your case.
We want: Fleet marks added to the pvp wrapper missions. (yes all of them, and omega merks for Kerrat)! Why? because we want to pvp, and the powers obtainable through the rep system (and the gear) have a direct impact on pvp.
Two things to keep in mind. AFKers and farmbotcheaterhaxploitz.
1) We might need new tech to get rid of AFKer, and have more balanced match making. Suggestion have been mentioned many times, I' not going to repeat them, here is the take home message.
a) we already have afkers
b) the more people enter the queues the better, so bring it on, ...nao
2) For a long time accolade hunters use private challenges to get the pvp kill accolades. This is fine, it is in no way more an exploit then are one-click foundry dailies. Both should stay. Finding a group, to run ones pvp daily more quickly without ruining actual matches by taking off shields etc.
Once rewards get put in, more private challenges will happen. This is fine! PvP'ers don't have to face farmers. And people will form groups to run content, its what you'd expect from an MMO, no? The wrappers keep the total of FM generated by this in check. FC are character bound, no luck for goldfarmers.
Fleet Marks are rewarded by Fleet Content.
Romulan Marks are rewarded by Romulan Content.
Omega Marks are rewarded by Borg Content.
The only one of these that leaves wiggle room as a possible PvP reward is Fleet Marks, and that continues to be a topic of discussion. But it's a topic with relatively low priority when we're all running around trying to get Season 7 out the door on time.
Would it help at all if I mentioned that we've been kicking concepts for a possible PvP Reputation track?
Your first statement is entirely incorrect, borticus. We receive fleet marks from doing the "investigate daily reports" missions, which existed pre-Season 6 and have nothing to do with Fleets. Why is it such a big deal to add fleet marks to pvp? This is a simple step that will further incentivize pvp.
It's akin to having multiple jobs - would you expect Employer #1 to pay you for work you did for Employer #2...?
No, but I would expect them to both pay me in the same currency.
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The point of course is that they should share the same currency or that there should be an exchange. I'll take it a step farther, and posit that since all my toons are family, I should be able to share all my different compensation with them with no constraints.
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PVP is still left out of being able to earn fleet marks AND any kind of reputation on tribble dispite a ton of stuff being added to earn both of those monies.
crypic, wheres the pvp "love" you said you had? you keep neglecting us and then admit you neglect us only to continue to do so.
why is this so?
This is directed at you borticus, you said you were looking into a way to add fleet marks. I'd have hoped that maybe with the reputation system youd have a way to earn that via pvp from the get go and not "promise" to look into adding it later, but I guess i had hoped too much huh? Why are you repeating past mistakes?
Aha. So not as much as I hoped is happening. Hmm.
In related news... PGI doesn't really know how to get balance things right either. My hope is that MW:O balance is much easier to achieve than STO balance... We'll see.
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Your first statement is entirely incorrect, borticus. We receive fleet marks from doing the "investigate daily reports" missions, which existed pre-Season 6 and have nothing to do with Fleets. Why is it such a big deal to add fleet marks to pvp? This is a simple step that will further incentivize pvp.
If you listen to the priority one episode 103 podcast, you would know that cryptic plans on adding a PvP reputation system with PvP related passives, new abilities, and possibly gear. As such, they will be adding a PvP currency to the game earned through playing PvP content. This is the reason Cryptic will not add fleet marks to PvP content. The podcast can be found here.
If you listen to the priority one episode 103 podcast, you would know that cryptic plans on adding a PvP reputation system with PvP related passives, new abilities, and possibly gear. As such, they will be adding a PvP currency to the game earned through playing PvP content. This is the reason Cryptic will not add fleet marks to PvP content. The podcast can be found here.
If you listen to the priority one episode 103 podcast, you would know that cryptic plans on adding a PvP reputation system with PvP related passives, new abilities, and possibly gear. As such, they will be adding a PvP currency to the game earned through playing PvP content. This is the reason Cryptic will not add fleet marks to PvP content. The podcast can be found here.
Don't kid yourself. What Captain "hire me to design your p2w fantasies" Gecko said was the reputation system they developed could be used for pvp. Not that it would be used for pvp, and there is no mention of them having plans to do so at all. As long as the anti-pvp Stahl is the one that makes the schedule, there will be nothing for pvp unless his boss tells him to do so.
If you listen to the priority one episode 103 podcast, you would know that cryptic plans on adding a PvP reputation system with PvP related passives, new abilities, and possibly gear. As such, they will be adding a PvP currency to the game earned through playing PvP content. This is the reason Cryptic will not add fleet marks to PvP content. The podcast can be found here.
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Fleet Marks are rewarded by Fleet Content.
Romulan Marks are rewarded by Romulan Content.
Omega Marks are rewarded by Borg Content.
The only one of these that leaves wiggle room as a possible PvP reward is Fleet Marks, and that continues to be a topic of discussion. But it's a topic with relatively low priority when we're all running around trying to get Season 7 out the door on time.
Would it help at all if I mentioned that we've been kicking concepts for a possible PvP Reputation track?
Bort, why not making a "store" where you can change pvp currency for some fleet marks? I think it would be wise to allow people that like pvping do only pvp with minimum pve and get most of their emblems/pvp currency that can be exchanged for some pve currency. This way we don't need to only pve for the most important pvp bonuses.
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Well then let me help to build your case.
We want: Fleet marks added to the pvp wrapper missions. (yes all of them, and omega merks for Kerrat)! Why? because we want to pvp, and the powers obtainable through the rep system (and the gear) have a direct impact on pvp.
Two things to keep in mind. AFKers and farmbotcheaterhaxploitz.
1) We might need new tech to get rid of AFKer, and have more balanced match making. Suggestion have been mentioned many times, I' not going to repeat them, here is the take home message.
a) we already have afkers
b) the more people enter the queues the better, so bring it on, ...nao
2) For a long time accolade hunters use private challenges to get the pvp kill accolades. This is fine, it is in no way more an exploit then are one-click foundry dailies. Both should stay. Finding a group, to run ones pvp daily more quickly without ruining actual matches by taking off shields etc.
Once rewards get put in, more private challenges will happen. This is fine! PvP'ers don't have to face farmers. And people will form groups to run content, its what you'd expect from an MMO, no? The wrappers keep the total of FM generated by this in check. FC are character bound, no luck for goldfarmers.
Its a win - win
thx
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a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
Winning.
Your first statement is entirely incorrect, borticus. We receive fleet marks from doing the "investigate daily reports" missions, which existed pre-Season 6 and have nothing to do with Fleets. Why is it such a big deal to add fleet marks to pvp? This is a simple step that will further incentivize pvp.
No, but I would expect them to both pay me in the same currency.
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Even if they did not share the same currency?
STO Forum member since before February 2010.
STO Academy's excellent skill planner here: Link
I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
In related news... PGI doesn't really know how to get balance things right either. My hope is that MW:O balance is much easier to achieve than STO balance... We'll see.
If you listen to the priority one episode 103 podcast, you would know that cryptic plans on adding a PvP reputation system with PvP related passives, new abilities, and possibly gear. As such, they will be adding a PvP currency to the game earned through playing PvP content. This is the reason Cryptic will not add fleet marks to PvP content. The podcast can be found here.
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At what minutes and seconds in??
It is around the 30 minute mark.
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Don't kid yourself. What Captain "hire me to design your p2w fantasies" Gecko said was the reputation system they developed could be used for pvp. Not that it would be used for pvp, and there is no mention of them having plans to do so at all. As long as the anti-pvp Stahl is the one that makes the schedule, there will be nothing for pvp unless his boss tells him to do so.
OP *is* the new balance, whether you know it or not! Gecko says so.
Season 7 - Exodus, available online. U buy nao!
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a history of sto pvp: 2010 - 2011
a history of sto pvp: 2012 - 2013
Bort, why not making a "store" where you can change pvp currency for some fleet marks? I think it would be wise to allow people that like pvping do only pvp with minimum pve and get most of their emblems/pvp currency that can be exchanged for some pve currency. This way we don't need to only pve for the most important pvp bonuses.
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
Yeah, that's right.
that was totally hilarious! See ya in MWO!
OP *is* the new balance, whether you know it or not! Gecko says so.
Season 7 - Exodus, available online. U buy nao!
http://seekingalpha.com/article/738221-monetizing-perfect-world-s-latest-update
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