I play on older integrated GPU, with most settings set to medium and then tweeked even lower in some points like lights, AA and such.
And plasma torp spread is guaranteed lag. No matter how low the settings are, when I see plasma spread I know I will see the lag and freeze for the duration of explosion. And when I play escort and do the "pilot mode" with camera close behind it and following the ship even plasma DOT will choke my GPU.
Not complaining, I know what hardware I have - just stating the fact.
when i got my Orb Weaver, & decided to set it up as a torp boat, the first thing i did was to start getting a plasma torpedo setup going. If Qin hadn't given me 3 purple MK XII transphasic consoles, i would have set up a plasma boat for the reason Husanak said. It's the most efficient setup for a torp boat. I'm loving my transphasic torp boat though. I finally can use my breen cluster torp for something now.
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OMG just get a better GPU or reduce video settings! If you are struggling with this then my guess is you've never played Starbase Fleet Defense.
+1 for this. Not using something bc somebody has a low end rig doesn't have sense. Especially that now the gpus are so much cheaper than they used to be.
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So after the discussions (as I like to do things different) I made a build by going for ALL BURN. This means using eject warp plasma, plasma turrets/ cannons and torps. Now you all think: what crazy suicide build is this...
Yes, I sacrifice 20% against shields, but overall DPS, especially against hull is increased SO much burn.... I found out that it works surprisingly well. After the fire extinguishers are empty they eventually all burn to death. Of course the build is best suited for tac captains, but I can imagine it works also well with a sub-nucing sci captain.
engine/deflector Honor guard (for the 25% additional torpedo dmg); shield Borg (since you use high shield power all the time). Other combo's can be made, as long as 1x borg and 2x honor is involved
Front 2x plasma torpedo, 2x plasma DHC (or 1x DHC and 1x single cannon)
Back 3x plasma turret, 1x trico/plasma mine (to be dropped inside the plasma)
Eng consoles: 1x (or 2x) RCS, 1x (or 2x) neutronium alloy, if you have: plasmonic leach and aceton assimilator
Sci consoles: 2x field gen, 1x borg
Tac consoles: 3x plasma infusers
For more damage, less defense following can be changed:
Sci boff: equip tractor beam
Sci consoles: equip particle gens
09-18-2012: Yesterday I had also lots of fun with the subspace jumper console. Activate it just after venting warp plasma, and jump behind the trapped poor TRIBBLE.
I blaim the political correct nature of society that says the system has to be adapted to service those whom can not compete within the parameters of said system without such special assistance.
I have HD4250 and I lag always when my setting move beyond middle and on middle everytime with particle clouds (nebulas, plasma etc) on below middle with too much lights/particle clouds to calculate (ligh/plasma intensive nebulas and HY plasma). The game graphics scales pretty well but high concentration plasma is a big problem even on low settings. So it is possible to youse plasma to lag people out of battle. Not with everyone (as cards are rather cheap and STO is rather old) but it is possible.
I run a Nvidia 8600GT factory overclocked video card and this game only lags for me when a lot of pets are in play. It has never lagged or shown poor graphics due to Nebula or Plasma torpedo graphics.
Well to say that husanack changed weapons is a stretch since his plasma launcher build has been one of his main builds since BEFORE the buff to plasma burn. When they buffed plasma, he was like a kid in a candy shop. I've ran a TRIBBLE ton of matches with him that has proven to me (i was skeptical at first) how effective plasma can be ESPECIALLY against teams that bring a lot of pets. If you guys were bringing carriers, I'm not surprised at all that he switched to his plasma boat. It surprises me your accusing others of causing lag though if your running that many pets and theta and plasma
I thought plasma wasn't the ideal PvP setup because of all the plasma resistance people are incorporating into their builds to deal with the Borg. I mean, my Mk XII MACO shield alone makes that seem like a poor choice.
I thought plasma wasn't the ideal PvP setup because of all the plasma resistance people are incorporating into their builds to deal with the Borg. I mean, my Mk XII MACO shield alone makes that seem like a poor choice.
Thats why people don't run Plasma energy weapons. For clearing pet spam, not much beats plasma though.
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I thought plasma wasn't the ideal PvP setup because of all the plasma resistance people are incorporating into their builds to deal with the Borg. I mean, my Mk XII MACO shield alone makes that seem like a poor choice.
I was under the impression that the resistance is on the shield, so the dots are not reduced in effectiveness. Head On, apply directly to the hull.
_______________ CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that? Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Well I personally combine that MACO shield with Electroceramic Hull Plating. Two of them if I'm fighting Borg. I figured my plasma resistance is about optimal.
From my perspective, it seemed as though you brought the plasma to lag us, not to clear the pets. Obviously, I have no problem with you bringing them to clear pets, but I was under the impression that you did it because you specifically intended to lag us.
We had been PvPing in the queues for several matches that day, and I did not lag until your boat showed up, so my guess is that the lag came from the plasma explosions on all the pets, so I suppose it was the combination that caused the lag.
As for the carriers, in my defense I personally don't like them. I was running the Galor that day, carrying neither pets nor theta (as I personally dislike both). Still, two carriers isn't that bad, it's when it's 3 or more that things start to get ridiculous.
If I sounded butt-hurt it was because I thought you were so butt-hurt about us being able to kill any of you that you'd deliberately lag us out just to win. If that's not the case I apologize, but from the situation it did seem like it.
Also, I believe at the end of the match, we received a message to the effect of "We'll stop using plasma if you'll stop bringing carriers". I can see that it was probably meant to mean, "we brought plasma to clear your spam and we wouldn't have done that if you didn't bring spam" but you have to admit it could be misinterpreted to mean, "we won't be cheap and lag you out if you don't bring a ship that is perfectly legitimate".
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And plasma torp spread is guaranteed lag. No matter how low the settings are, when I see plasma spread I know I will see the lag and freeze for the duration of explosion. And when I play escort and do the "pilot mode" with camera close behind it and following the ship even plasma DOT will choke my GPU.
Not complaining, I know what hardware I have - just stating the fact.
+1 for this. Not using something bc somebody has a low end rig doesn't have sense. Especially that now the gpus are so much cheaper than they used to be.
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
n search of more fast and agile K'tinga cruiscort builds I had a small discussion in this thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=367431
So after the discussions (as I like to do things different) I made a build by going for ALL BURN. This means using eject warp plasma, plasma turrets/ cannons and torps. Now you all think: what crazy suicide build is this...
Yes, I sacrifice 20% against shields, but overall DPS, especially against hull is increased SO much burn.... I found out that it works surprisingly well. After the fire extinguishers are empty they eventually all burn to death. Of course the build is best suited for tac captains, but I can imagine it works also well with a sub-nucing sci captain.
The setup is as follows:
Lt-tac: TT1, CFR1
Ens-tac: TT1/spread1
Cmdr-eng: EptE1, EptS2, EWP1, AtoS3
LtCmdr-eng: ET1, RSP1, EWP1
Lt-sci: PH1, TSS2
engine/deflector Honor guard (for the 25% additional torpedo dmg); shield Borg (since you use high shield power all the time). Other combo's can be made, as long as 1x borg and 2x honor is involved
Front 2x plasma torpedo, 2x plasma DHC (or 1x DHC and 1x single cannon)
Back 3x plasma turret, 1x trico/plasma mine (to be dropped inside the plasma)
Eng consoles: 1x (or 2x) RCS, 1x (or 2x) neutronium alloy, if you have: plasmonic leach and aceton assimilator
Sci consoles: 2x field gen, 1x borg
Tac consoles: 3x plasma infusers
Purple Doffs: 2x torpedo doff, 1x matter anti-matter, 2x damage control engineers
power settings: 100/40/35/25
For more damage, less defense following can be changed:
Sci boff: equip tractor beam
Sci consoles: equip particle gens
09-18-2012: Yesterday I had also lots of fun with the subspace jumper console. Activate it just after venting warp plasma, and jump behind the trapped poor TRIBBLE.
@rudiefix Feds: Rudiefix / Thron / Opa
@rudiefix KDFs: Lill / Xifeidur / Dehr / Ugly
@rudiefix Roms (KDF alligned): Chicita
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I have HD4250 and I lag always when my setting move beyond middle and on middle everytime with particle clouds (nebulas, plasma etc) on below middle with too much lights/particle clouds to calculate (ligh/plasma intensive nebulas and HY plasma). The game graphics scales pretty well but high concentration plasma is a big problem even on low settings. So it is possible to youse plasma to lag people out of battle. Not with everyone (as cards are rather cheap and STO is rather old) but it is possible.
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your screen is a 43:9 format?
Thats why people don't run Plasma energy weapons. For clearing pet spam, not much beats plasma though.
I was under the impression that the resistance is on the shield, so the dots are not reduced in effectiveness. Head On, apply directly to the hull.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Correct. its about the proc. who cares everyone runs maco
The proc is buffed by both plasma envelope and infuser. Not to mention APA and GDF. This counts also for the plasma proc of ejected warp plasma
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@rudiefix KDFs: Lill / Xifeidur / Dehr / Ugly
@rudiefix Roms (KDF alligned): Chicita
I use three HP2475w displays.
From my perspective, it seemed as though you brought the plasma to lag us, not to clear the pets. Obviously, I have no problem with you bringing them to clear pets, but I was under the impression that you did it because you specifically intended to lag us.
We had been PvPing in the queues for several matches that day, and I did not lag until your boat showed up, so my guess is that the lag came from the plasma explosions on all the pets, so I suppose it was the combination that caused the lag.
As for the carriers, in my defense I personally don't like them. I was running the Galor that day, carrying neither pets nor theta (as I personally dislike both). Still, two carriers isn't that bad, it's when it's 3 or more that things start to get ridiculous.
If I sounded butt-hurt it was because I thought you were so butt-hurt about us being able to kill any of you that you'd deliberately lag us out just to win. If that's not the case I apologize, but from the situation it did seem like it.
Also, I believe at the end of the match, we received a message to the effect of "We'll stop using plasma if you'll stop bringing carriers". I can see that it was probably meant to mean, "we brought plasma to clear your spam and we wouldn't have done that if you didn't bring spam" but you have to admit it could be misinterpreted to mean, "we won't be cheap and lag you out if you don't bring a ship that is perfectly legitimate".