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Vesta Class... Science or Cruiser? Lets talk about it!

frostyslyfrostysly Member Posts: 42 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hey, Guys!

Just read the "State of the game" report and read the Vesta class is on its way. Is there any confirmation about the Vesta being a cruiser or a scienceship?

I'd like to see it as the cruiser she should be. I am just reading the Destiny books. I personally think that here in STO, the Oddyssey Sci variant should have a equivalent. The Vesta could be a Sci-heavy Cruiser with Sensoranalysis... Or as James from "Priority One" once mentioned - make the Vesta available as Sci, Tac and Eng in a Pack just like the Oddyssey. Everything else is up to you.

Ok, guys. Go for it. Support me or hang me! :-)
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  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Giant hideous ship must be a cruiser.
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  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I can't help but feel the Vesta should have some sort of science focus. I'm not sure what it should be though.

    Maybe a hybrid science-cruiser ship of some sort?
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Science primarily, three device slots, with a Tac lean (Lt. Cmdr Tac slot) including the ability to mount dual cannons (but not DHC's). But with the turn rate of the Excelsior, the hull and shield mods of a general cruiser, and only two Tac consoles.

    Basically, a mutt.
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  • icegavelicegavel Member Posts: 991 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Too many cruisers. Hope it's a science vessel.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I dunno, I feel it might be a good mixed-class. I'm hoping for a cruiser with something like...

    Cmdr Engineer
    Lt. Cmdr sci
    Lt. engineer
    Lt tac
    Ensign anything (preferably not engineer though, sci or tac would be really good)

    That's just me though.

    But even switching the science and engineering spots if it was science, would still make for a great ship.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    There been plenty of threads on what the Vesta is.

    To me, the Vesta always gave me the impression that she was a Science Ship, because she was the testbed of many new technologies like the Slipsteam Drive. And with her canons, she would be as a Tactical specialized Science Ship, like the Luna.

    Now given Cryptic with the new ships like the Armitage and the Regent, she would likely be like:

    LTC Tactical
    Ensign Tactical
    LT Universal
    Commander Science
    LT Science
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I'm thinking something more like
    Cmdr Science
    Lt. Cmdr Tactical
    Lt. Engineering
    Lt. Science
    Ens. Universal

    Though I could see them inverting the Lt. Science and Ensign Universal. Mostly I can't see them not putting an Engineering slot on it.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I heard somewhere that the Vesta was going to be a Sci-Vessel with Cannons. I don't remember where though...
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2012
    Its already been confirmed in dev interviews its going to be a science ship that can equip dual heavies

    only thing we dont know is the boff layout , though most do indeed suggest a lt commander tac station
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  • frostyslyfrostysly Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    Its already been confirmed in dev interviews its going to be a science ship that can equip dual heavies

    Ok, lets make my Galaxy X complete worthless... :(
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited September 2012
    frostysly wrote: »
    Ok, lets make my Galaxy X complete worthless... :(

    My suspicion is that it will have a nearly equally abysmal turnrate and will have a console and/or weapons that are equally as good on a Galaxy-X.
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2012
    stoleviathan99 wrote: »
    My suspicion is that it will have a nearly equally abysmal turnrate and will have a console and/or weapons that are equally as good on a Galaxy-X.

    which is why ill be ignoring the cannons completely and putting beams on mine :p
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  • frostyslyfrostysly Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    That would make 3 cruisers that can carry dual heavies... Galaxy-X, D'Kora and the Vesta. What is the point in letting a ship equip dual heavies if you can only take 1 rapid fire I with you?

    If the Vesta is so sci heavy, it would make that abillity just as wothless as on the Galaxy-X.
  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2012
    which is why people are hypothesising it'll be commander science , lt commander tactical.
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    commanderkassy wrote: »
    Giant hideous ship must be a cruiser.

    No kidding! I saw a size comparison to a Sovereign, its almost the same size! Except the Vesta lacks the grace and nice design aesthetics; honestly I don't understand why that Reta-something guy gets so much credit, all his ships I've seen look terrible. Compared to the Vesta even the Ody could win beauty pageants!
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    From the looks of it I'd say it must be a garbage-carrier...

    No... im dead serious... No sarcasm, no trolling... That ship is uglier than the cryptic designs.
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    From the looks of it I'd say it must be a garbage-carrier...

    No... im dead serious... No sarcasm, no trolling... That ship is uglier than the cryptic designs.

    I'm reminded of something.....

    "not sure if your ship should be hauling garbage or be hauled away AS garbage!"

    Seems oddly appropriate to me.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    skyranger1414 wrote: »
    I'm reminded of something.....

    "not sure if your ship should be hauling garbage or be hauled away AS garbage!"

    Seems oddly appropriate to me.

    +1 on remembering related quotes...
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  • rrincyrrincy Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2012
    It still has its fans, personally its my favorite starfleet design :)
    its one of those ships you either love , or hate . no real middle ground
    you have to remember , theres a reason for the shape of the design , in the novels , slipstream drive requires very precise hull geometry in order to be used stably ( which is how they explain why voyager couldnt use it safely )
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  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    The ship is extraordinarily hideous, but hey, a lot of people like it even if I can't figure out why, so good for them finally getting their ship :)
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  • delvok5delvok5 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    On Memory Beta it said:

    "It could also be used as a beam intensifier. If the ship is heavily damaged and the field focuser is still online, power from the phasers and shields could be rerouted to the main deflection system and be used to ether create a shield bubble or a high intensity phaser beam which could be sustained for as long as power can be routed to the deflector array."

    Talking about the Quantum field focus controller so it may be a Sci and it hold 745 -750 crew (also on the wiki). Maybe an advanced slipstream drive. I do agree with commanderkassy it is not to pleasing to look at but it is a new ship and tier 5 lets hope!
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I really like the design and for me this ship is gona be a must have. For the first time I look at new starship and instantly think yes, that's a ship for the 25th century. The nacelles, the impulse engines... it just looks more advanced than let's say the souvereign class - at least for me ;)
  • quiscustodietquiscustodiet Member Posts: 350
    edited September 2012
    I'm thinking something like:

    Hull: 27000
    Shield mod: 1.35
    Crew: 400
    Turn: 12
    Impulse mod: .15
    Inertia: 45
    Weapons: 3/3, cannot equip Dual Cannons.
    Consoles: 4 Sci, 4 Tac, 1 Eng
    Devices: 3
    Power bonus: Aux+10, Shields+10
    BOFF layout: Commander Science, Lt. Commander Tactical, Lt. Engineering, Lt. Science, Ensign Universal.
    Native abilities: Sensor Analysis, Subsystem Targetting.
    Special abilities/Console:
    - Field Focus: Shields: fully regenerates Shields and grants Shield Resistance+X% to all Energy Types for Ys, but disables all Energy Weapons for Ys.
    - Field Focus: Beam: drain Shields to fire a prolonged Beam Pulse, arc PI/2rad, duration X, uses equipped DBBs (if none, doesn't work; if 3, works extremely well).

    Fleet version: Hull: 29700, Shield mod: 1.485, +1 Sci Console.
  • angelphoenix12angelphoenix12 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    id like to see it as a cross between crusier and sci.
  • delvok5delvok5 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    angelphoenix12 wrote: »
    id like to see it as a cross between crusier and sci.

    I would to but i don think it is big enough.
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Anything but another cruiser...

    Make it battlecruiser-ish (like a vor'cha - maneuverable cruiser with dual cannons) or offensive science vessel-ish (like the kar'fi, but without the hangars). Just please, not another generic cruiser...

    Said this numerous times, but personally I hope stat-wise it'll turn out similar to the Kar'Fi - i.e. commander science, lt.cmdr. tac and can mount dual cannons. Perhaps buff the turn-rate or HP to make up for lack of hangar bays and it's insta-buy for me.
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Cruiser only.

    Fight the magic in STO!

    Should come with Sci power proof console that is stackable to encourage IP appropriate game play.
  • cusashorncusashorn Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2012
    rrincy wrote: »
    Its already been confirmed in dev interviews its going to be a science ship that can equip dual heavies

    only thing we dont know is the boff layout , though most do indeed suggest a lt commander tac station

    Proof or it didn't happen.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    cusashorn wrote: »
    Proof or it didn't happen.


    I believe it was mentioned on Priority One when Geko was interviewed.
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