brel is a pvp/fun ship"no hull no shilds" only it have nothing to search in an stf same like scie vessel from fed, if you go in with this TRIBBLE you only make the mission for others harder/impossible.
it will be same like to say go in with a shuttle and try to win.
ussing serious ships is a basic in stfs.;)
there are no bad t4 and 5 ships in this game... only bad captains
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that only says you are a newbie in the game so go into normal stfs and lern the gamemechaniks.;)
how can you troll like that?
even solvax trolls better :P
seriously, its basic knowledge that even an engie in an oddy with max resists (all kinetic consols, maco shield, all available resist bo abilities) cant take an invisa torp and live. you obviously have gotten lucky and never seen one or you would eat your words.
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brel is a pvp/fun ship"no hull no shilds" only it have nothing to search in an stf same like scie vessel from fed, if you go in with this TRIBBLE you only make the mission for others harder/impossible.
it will be same like to say go in with a shuttle and try to win.
ussing serious ships is a basic in stfs.;)
Like all the Tacs that use Odyssey Cruiser and shooting colorful rainbows?
Yeah, the Brel isn't the best ship to have, but it can dish out a lot of damage. The problem is rather, that there are no tanks around.
they are back I have 12 equipment I get one shotted
have you notice gates are up to in elite
have noticed. gates now not only have invisa torps, but a version of the shield neutralizer that is actually a weapon, so it cant be countered, and it drains all 4 shield facings isn seconds.
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I got hit by 97000 in damage. Way more than any ship in the game can handle. It happened in ISE. Borg ability to crit was supposed to be taken away. The devs need to look into this.
just to add to this me and a few freinds were playing the elite stfs and we got one shotted through full shields and no warning and nothing visible even hitting us. very very unbalanced and not cool.
Like all the Tacs that use Odyssey Cruiser and shooting colorful rainbows?
Yeah, the Brel isn't the best ship to have, but it can dish out a lot of damage. The problem is rather, that there are no tanks around.
to point 1 you not like multi proc then dont use it, i run full random colors works great for me.
and to point 2 any ship can make dmg but the point is its the kdf ship with most bad stats, so why use a ship what is always dead if you can use all other ships what have better dmg stay alive abilitys?
to point 1 you not like multi proc then dont use it, i run full random colors works great for me.
and to point 2 any ship can make dmg but the point is its the kdf ship with most bad stats, so why use a ship what is always dead if you can use all other ships what have better dmg stay alive abilitys?
Is that so? Most of those guys seem to do less damage than I do with my engineer tank.
Most of the time it really doesn't matter if you have 1000 hull strength more or less. If you get the aggro of a tac cube or a gate you get destroyed after a few seconds anyway or not at all, depending on your luck and the amount of 100k torps, that come your way.
Having the battle cloak can help by the way, specially since you can use things like engineer team without having to decloak.
that not exist like i sayed i have done 30+ tak cubes solo never seen somethink like that.;)
And I have tanked far more than 30 tac bubes with my engineer and even with that ship I often got 30.000 or 40.000 hits, even so I still had shields up. I would go from 100$ to 20% or below in a second. I normally survive this of course, but a Tac officer wouldn't, no matter what ship he uses.
what it have to do with troll to say that somethink not exist for serious players what understand the gamemechanics.
and if i have done now 1000-2000 stfs without seeing that kind of magic?
then you are pretty darn lucky. or you have never done elite mode. i think ist the first choice, but never mind. the point is that an invisa torp is a regular plasma torp (non-destructable) that doesnt render, yet does 250k+damage. there is no tactic, strategy, or defense against them except luck. getting killed by one of those is not a lack of skill, just bad luck. and the longest thread in sto history (post your worst stf experience) is full of guys who agree with me (and trollvax has never posted in that thread :P)
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i dont say tank i sayed i do solo 30+, thats a big differenz.
eng or whatever is not importend on any way the ship says how much you can take not the char.;)
a example take a tholian carrier and your are a near undestroayble god, use a B,rel and you are dead near always.
the tholian carrier is rubbish. the karfi costs less, and is infinitly better (bo layout, turn rate, dhc, etc.) an no ship can take a hit from an invisa torp and live. they do 250k+ through shields. never getting hit by one is simly god-like luck, not skill. and a brel can kick a**, it just needs a proper build and tactics.
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i am not you that says for me that mystery thinks not exist if you play like a nuub do it.
i nefver die in a SFT coz i know how to do it right. fast and easy so have fun in your OOOHHH I AMM ALWAYS DEAD world.:D
i dont say tank i sayed i do solo 30+, thats a big differenz.
eng or whatever is not importend on any way the ship says how much you can take not the char.;)
a example take a tholian carrier and your are a near undestroayble god, use a B,rel and you are dead near always.
But an eng tank skills differently so he has a higher durability and he has different skills and uses other officers so he can take a lot of damage but doesn't make much. If you a tac that doesn't do any damage and instead just can take a lot of damage(as you apparently are) then you're worthless in a STF as well.
from its called KHG shild in my bop i have with it 9k in tholian carrier i have 22k ea side that says my bop have from all 4 sides a total of 36k shild with the carrier a total of 88k.
and you in right carrier can boom if a totaly nuub use it what never make a heal skill and co.
the point in that example is to show the differenz of the take dmg capazity of the ships.
thats why i say near undefeatable, says not god mode but near god mode in the carrier no other ship can take bigger amount of dmg ingame.;)
i am not you that says for me that mystery thinks not exist if you play like a nuub do it.
i nefver die in a SFT coz i know how to do it right. fast and easy so have fun in your OOOHHH I AMM ALWAYS DEAD world.:D
ummm... yeah.
its not the always dead world. its the occasionally killed by a lame game mechanic world. i have seen 'nuubs' go whole rounds with only one or two non invisa torp deaths, whilst skilled (i know so from pvp) players get whipped by a rotten ruined unbalanced mechanic. bad luc does not make me a 'nuub'. if it does, than anyone who has ever opened a lockbox and gotten something lame is a 'nuub' by your standards.
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from its called KHG shild in my bop i have with it 9k in tholian carrier i have 22k ea side that says my bop have from all 4 sides a total of 36k shild with the carrier a total of 88k.
and you in right carrier can boom if a totaly nuub use it what never make a heal skill and co.
the point in that example is to show the differenz of the take dmg capazity of the ships.
thats why i say near undefeatable, says not god mode but near god mode in the carrier no other ship can take bigger amount of dmg ingame.;)
agree on the last part. well set up carrier = god mode tank.
however, a bop can be quite an effective build with devastating post battle cloak alpha strike that can blow spheres out of the water and cripple cubes and tac cubes.
there are no bad t4 and up ships- only bad pilots
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So, are tanking in this thing? If not, you're useless, since you don't do any damage with this ship, god mode or not (and I really call bull**** on 22.000 shields, I'm not sure about the shield modifier of that thing so).
Surviving is fine, but you still need enough dps to do the Optional and I don't see how you would come even close in this thing to my BoP.
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how can you troll like that?
even solvax trolls better :P
seriously, its basic knowledge that even an engie in an oddy with max resists (all kinetic consols, maco shield, all available resist bo abilities) cant take an invisa torp and live. you obviously have gotten lucky and never seen one or you would eat your words.
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Like all the Tacs that use Odyssey Cruiser and shooting colorful rainbows?
Yeah, the Brel isn't the best ship to have, but it can dish out a lot of damage. The problem is rather, that there are no tanks around.
have you notice gates are up to in elite
have noticed. gates now not only have invisa torps, but a version of the shield neutralizer that is actually a weapon, so it cant be countered, and it drains all 4 shield facings isn seconds.
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just to add to this me and a few freinds were playing the elite stfs and we got one shotted through full shields and no warning and nothing visible even hitting us. very very unbalanced and not cool.
to point 1 you not like multi proc then dont use it, i run full random colors works great for me.
and to point 2 any ship can make dmg but the point is its the kdf ship with most bad stats, so why use a ship what is always dead if you can use all other ships what have better dmg stay alive abilitys?
what it have to do with troll to say that somethink not exist for serious players what understand the gamemechanics.
and if i have done now 1000-2000 stfs without seeing that kind of magic?
Is that so? Most of those guys seem to do less damage than I do with my engineer tank.
Most of the time it really doesn't matter if you have 1000 hull strength more or less. If you get the aggro of a tac cube or a gate you get destroyed after a few seconds anyway or not at all, depending on your luck and the amount of 100k torps, that come your way.
Having the battle cloak can help by the way, specially since you can use things like engineer team without having to decloak.
that not exist like i sayed i have done 30+ tak cubes solo never seen somethink like that.;)
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And I have tanked far more than 30 tac bubes with my engineer and even with that ship I often got 30.000 or 40.000 hits, even so I still had shields up. I would go from 100$ to 20% or below in a second. I normally survive this of course, but a Tac officer wouldn't, no matter what ship he uses.
eng or whatever is not importend on any way the ship says how much you can take not the char.;)
a example take a tholian carrier and your are a near undestroayble god, use a B,rel and you are dead near always.
then you are pretty darn lucky. or you have never done elite mode. i think ist the first choice, but never mind. the point is that an invisa torp is a regular plasma torp (non-destructable) that doesnt render, yet does 250k+damage. there is no tactic, strategy, or defense against them except luck. getting killed by one of those is not a lack of skill, just bad luck. and the longest thread in sto history (post your worst stf experience) is full of guys who agree with me (and trollvax has never posted in that thread :P)
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the tholian carrier is rubbish. the karfi costs less, and is infinitly better (bo layout, turn rate, dhc, etc.) an no ship can take a hit from an invisa torp and live. they do 250k+ through shields. never getting hit by one is simly god-like luck, not skill. and a brel can kick a**, it just needs a proper build and tactics.
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i nefver die in a SFT coz i know how to do it right. fast and easy so have fun in your OOOHHH I AMM ALWAYS DEAD world.:D
But an eng tank skills differently so he has a higher durability and he has different skills and uses other officers so he can take a lot of damage but doesn't make much. If you a tac that doesn't do any damage and instead just can take a lot of damage(as you apparently are) then you're worthless in a STF as well.
And no, you can't really do both.
simply example bop 39k HP 9K shild 3 armors
tholian carrier 59k HP 22k shild 4 armors
you see the differenz?:rolleyes:
bop dead near most time if he get hits , carrier near undefeatable i dont remeber wen i was destroyed anytime with this ship.
the char makes ~0% differenz.;)
Where the heck are you getting "22k shields" or "9k shields" from?
I've seen carriers go *boom* in STFs long before escorts. Your claims don't hold up.
from its called KHG shild in my bop i have with it 9k in tholian carrier i have 22k ea side that says my bop have from all 4 sides a total of 36k shild with the carrier a total of 88k.
and you in right carrier can boom if a totaly nuub use it what never make a heal skill and co.
the point in that example is to show the differenz of the take dmg capazity of the ships.
thats why i say near undefeatable, says not god mode but near god mode in the carrier no other ship can take bigger amount of dmg ingame.;)
ummm... yeah.
its not the always dead world. its the occasionally killed by a lame game mechanic world. i have seen 'nuubs' go whole rounds with only one or two non invisa torp deaths, whilst skilled (i know so from pvp) players get whipped by a rotten ruined unbalanced mechanic. bad luc does not make me a 'nuub'. if it does, than anyone who has ever opened a lockbox and gotten something lame is a 'nuub' by your standards.
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agree on the last part. well set up carrier = god mode tank.
however, a bop can be quite an effective build with devastating post battle cloak alpha strike that can blow spheres out of the water and cripple cubes and tac cubes.
there are no bad t4 and up ships- only bad pilots
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Surviving is fine, but you still need enough dps to do the Optional and I don't see how you would come even close in this thing to my BoP.