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seraphantilles
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Problem Description:
There is a maximum rate at which provisions can be earned. It is much too slow. A big fleet like the 12th should be able to earn provisions at a rate proportional to its size (relative to smaller fleets). Yet we can only earn provisions as fast as a fleet with 10% of our membership.
I already see many fleets where people can freely use provisions because there is enough supply to meet the demand generated by 40 players.
However it is impossible to meet the demand of 400 members because supply is artificially limited by the timers on these projects.
Solution:
The provisions missions should be reprogrammed to be able to be completed as many times as possible during the timer. That way bigger fleets who can donate more would get more provisions (which they need because they have more members to give them out to).
Or perhaps you intended large fleets to have to give two item provisions per member every month or two?
Problem Description:
There is a maximum rate at which provisions can be earned. It is much too slow. A big fleet like the 12th should be able to earn provisions at a rate proportional to its size (relative to smaller fleets). Yet we can only earn provisions as fast as a fleet with 10% of our membership.
I already see many fleets where people can freely use provisions because there is enough supply to meet the demand generated by 40 players.
However it is impossible to meet the demand of 400 members because supply is artificially limited by the timers on these projects.
Solution:
The provisions missions should be reprogrammed to be able to be completed as many times as possible during the timer. That way bigger fleets who can donate more would get more provisions (which they need because they have more members to give them out to).
Or perhaps you intended large fleets to have to give two item provisions per member every month or two?
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Pretty good tradeoff if you ask me.
I agree on this. Everyone has a disadvantage somewhere.
A fleet with an overly substantial membership contains an over abundance of individuals capable of pooling vast and diverse amounts of the raw material required complete various projects..., but production costs time. As only one starbase is being built and not multiple starbases..., production is limited by quantity of producing capital. Simply put..., if you only have one factory, you can only streamline the process of production to a certain point. That point becomes your limit and results in high demand because resources are scarce.
Flip the coin. Small fleets have less people demanding goods. However, an understaffed factory means production delays. It means greater cost for each of the enterprising starbase foremen to construct the capital that is required to get to the point of even producing provisions. Less people means more expenditure on the individual fleet member to complete projects. Small fleets struggle to acquire that capital that comes easy to large fleets. Therefore, small fleets have a hard time acquiring provisions for lack of human resources.
This is why the most efficient fleet is one that has reached an equilibrium between bloated membership and workforce deficiency.
You see, the problem isn't that large fleets aren't treated fairly. The problem is that overly large fleets are inefficient and it is my firm recommendation you consider layoffs
While layoffs will be too severe for those giant fleets who have been together, there is also the option of splitting into multiple small fleets, each "task force" having a specialized gameplay focus.
Sort of what TFR does with separate Academy, PvP and ESTF fleets. Last I checked each fleet had 100-150 people and they'll have at least 3 starbases thanks to decentralization.
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The basic provisioning assignments are already only on 30 minute cooldowns .. I gotta ask the lingering question exactly how many ships and rifles are your people buying each day?
Again I can't believe this is a problem for a fleet like 12th who, while their roster may say 400 members, probably only have about 50 or so different players who actually play the game.
Forum fleet lives on their forum.
As far as I can see 12th does not have a provisions problem. More than enough to go around so far. It’s just management wanted to stock up on provisions before opening up the store. Nothing wrong with that.
to the OP: Consider the possibility that limits like this are there for a REASON, and in this case, that reason is that they don't want your gigantic fleet rendering all others irrelevant. Yes, you are being slowed down to the pace of fleets smaller than you. This is (IMO) deliberate.
That is the point, "super" fleets serve no body in the community, I bet you could not recite each of their names, or really hold a conversation in Fleet chat with that many people.
Fleets are supposed to be smaller, more mobile and diverse communities where people can hang out and work towards common goals, such as the provisions, they are not merely just a dumping ground for hundreds of players.
I have it at the momement personsonally made it 50K donations for fleet purchases, also a unwritten rule of "buy one of everything for now" later once we all have what we need, your welcomed to buy more of the same.
I believe its a good trade off as well.
Jim
I'm in a fleet where bureaucrats lead the stuff, there are forms for everything, including provisioning. It's tedious, it's boring and it has no interest but giving to some people the feeling that they are usefull. Of course they are not, they're just parasites. It's called a fleet (I won't tell you which one, a member posted here)but we may call this USSR online and see no difference. Don't get into that if you want to keep playing a game. Get a breath, relax. Don't try to force the system to adapt to an absurd number of players, adapt to the system isntead. Just split.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.