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centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
Assuming it was anywhere from $20-40, would you buy it? Yes or No?
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Yes. I have no problem buying Expansions for LotRO, WoW, etc. I'd have no problem doing so for STO.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • mirrorseacatmirrorseacat Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Absolutely, it would be worth it just to FINALLY have the KDF finished.

    Although I would practically sell a couple toes, mabye a finger for the Romulans (stipulation being to replace the Hirogen with the Breen as the Romulans allies)
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    No, because it is a trend that I personally would not like to see started in this game.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    No, because it is a trend that I personally would not like to see started in this game.
    Expansion Packs are extremely common in this industry. I'm not sure why someone would be willing to spend $20-$25.00 for a ship - let alone $100.00 for a Lockbox ship - but not $30.00 for an Expansion Pack .
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    perhaps.. It would depend on a few things.
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  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Expansion Packs are extremely common in this industry. I'm not sure why someone would be willing to spend $20-$25.00 for a ship - let alone $100.00 for a Lockbox ship - but not $30.00 for an Expansion Pack .

    I play plenty of MMOs and know the deal. I just don't want to see this as a paid expansion, then the Romulans, then later seasons, and so on and so forth. It could become a potential Pandora's Box. It would devalue my Lifetime Subscription even further and I'm not all about that.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I would put money towards an expansion, providing there is enough content to justify me spending money.

    For instance, 10 missions isn't enough. There would to need to be at least 20 missions with reason to visit more than 1 time and not involving mindless grinding for kill accolades. And there needs to be at least 2 ships involved. One canon ship we been missing for years is the K'Vort, another they could add from canon is the D5 (new Tier 0 ship, if they expand starting levels back to Level 1).
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I would if as a LTS/Gold Member I got a substantial discount of some kind...

    Otherwise, I'd just wait for it to get marked down 25% after 6 months at Wally-World.

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  • stealthymcthiefstealthymcthief Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Expansion Packs are extremely common in this industry. I'm not sure why someone would be willing to spend $20-$25.00 for a ship - let alone $100.00 for a Lockbox ship - but not $30.00 for an Expansion Pack .

    Because those other games don't charge you $25 for ships. Also they usually start with a sufficient amount of content besides end game grind.

    They should bring STO content up to par, then I'm willing to talk expansion.
  • happyhappyj0yj0yhappyhappyj0yj0y Member Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Assuming it was anywhere from $20-40, would you buy it? Yes or No?

    Uh, no.

    I've already bought a lifetime subscription and STO has macrotransactions that cost as much as a full expansion without offering 1/1000th the amount of content.

    So yeah, that avenue would only be acceptable if (1) it's entirely free to subscribers or (2) there are MASSIVE cuts to the established CStore prices.
  • tdon7tdon7 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Uh, no.

    I've already bought a lifetime subscription and STO has macrotransactions that cost as much as a full expansion without offering 1/1000th the amount of content.

    So yeah, that avenue would only be acceptable if (1) it's entirely free to subscribers or (2) there are MASSIVE cuts to the established CStore prices.

    I would buy it full price. I think a fair way to go about it is Free for lifetimer, reduced for Gold accounts, and Full price for silver accounts.

    Would that be a little more amicable to folks?
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  • tribblequeentribblequeen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I would most defiantly buy a expansion if it were to come out. I would want to explore the new content, but most importantly play with my friends. :D

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tdon7 wrote: »
    I would buy it full price. I think a fair way to go about it is Free for lifetimer, reduced for Gold accounts, and Full price for silver accounts.

    Would that be a little more amicable to folks?

    I wouldn't expect it to be Free for LTS'ers... (They do have to pay Their bills)

    But a considerable discount would be reasonable...

    Anything in the 30 to 40 percent range is reasonable to me...

    I'd be amicable if it was $25 to $30 dollars.
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  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I play plenty of MMOs and know the deal. I just don't want to see this as a paid expansion, then the Romulans, then later seasons, and so on and so forth. It could become a potential Pandora's Box. It would devalue my Lifetime Subscription even further and I'm not all about that.

    Unless you're using pure perk points or dilithium for zen stock, anything you buy from the cryptic store devalues your LTS. You're still paying money for some level of content either way. But I suppose you feel your original purchase of the game devalued your LTS. Or your purchase of the game from every different retailer with a bonus in-game item.
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  • onlineangelonlineangel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Assuming it was anywhere from $20-40, would you buy it? Yes or No?

    Nope, I wouldn't spend anymore real money on Cryptic/PWE ever.

    I feel I got scammed with my LTS, gonna going to get scammed again.
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    bloctoad wrote: »
    Unless you're using pure perk points or dilithium for zen stock, anything you buy from the cryptic store devalues your LTS. You're still paying money for some level of content either way. But I suppose you feel your original purchase of the game devalued your LTS. Or your purchase of the game from every different retailer with a bonus in-game item.

    Reality is though, I could grind dilithium to no end and sell it all on the dilithium exchange and in the process accrue enough ZEN to never spend any real-world money on the game. :cool:
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Of course people would pay for it but cryptic won't do it because. They don't expect to make enough money to cover the costs
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  • janetza#4790 janetza Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Such paid content would merge current playerbase, into those who pay and those who not. There is a problem already making a fleet actions on kdf, and some on fed. I doubt it would work out with STO and its playerbase. Thanks
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  • cormorancormoran Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I'd buy it, but it'll never happen.

    Why would they sell us an expansion for $20-$40 when they know full well they could sell it piecemeal via zstore and lockboxes for $200-$400?
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    No...

    Cryptic have to start living up to their word, and get it fleshed out, WITHOUT chargeing extra.

    Said by a player who puts no interest into the KDF.

    Edit: And I don't really care about the "Plans change" argument... For me, it's not really a valid argument, when you've promised something.
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  • seanftdseanftd Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If sto brought out an expansion pack I think I'd rather having sonthing like the gamma or delta quadrant . Both these options would add much more depth to the game if hope.
  • seanftdseanftd Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Suggesting you would leave rather than buying an expansion is a bit over the top isn't it? All you would be doing Is shoot yourself in the foot surley?
  • piwright42piwright42 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Assuming it was anywhere from $20-40, would you buy it? Yes or No?

    No. I would be offended as well. Given all the mission content added to the Feds for free, given the amount I have spent getting all the C-Store content for the KDF...

    Flat out No.
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  • teleon22teleon22 Member Posts: 424
    edited August 2012
    Assuming it was anywhere from $20-40, would you buy it? Yes or No?

    I would have to say no. I?d much prefer to play Romulans. Other than that, I?m perfectly happy playing Federation.
  • seanftdseanftd Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If the romulan faction is made do you think they will be in any better state than the Klingons?
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If there is a constant stream of free content on top then yes i would have no problem buying an expansion as id rather have the option to buy it while still getting free content than just free content alone and no choice whatsoever.

    but i highly doubt we will ever see one for a number of reasons, so im not going to hold my breath.
  • praghaspraghas Member Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Given the current track record, I would wait for it to go on sale to buy it, UNLESS:

    It was 90% Klingon, meaning, not thse copy/paste missions, but unique missions for them and new ships.

    and

    When this expansion came out, there would be a patch (free for all) that would come out that would start the KDF at level 1 and allow players to start as KDF, without any Feds, and give them the content to level through that section.

    If it were a mixed expansion, i'd be iffy on it, and if it did not bring the KDF to be a full blown faction it would be worthless.
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Yes, I'd pay for an expansion that focused on KDF content.

    But, Fed only players will feel either they don't need it or feel ripped off. A lot of games that add faction expansions offer very little to the primary factions. When City of Heroes expanded with City of Villains, they offered Supergroup bases to everyone who purchased the expansion. People who were not interested in playing villains were cornered because they wanted bases as well. Something needs to be offered to Fed only players as well.

    I would hope whatever they offer to Fed only players is good, considering since they are the majority. An expansion containing only KDF content wouldn't yield as much profit in my opinion. I don't think they'd really create something only 20% of the playerbase would pick up.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I wouldn't buy it, but I'd support the notion of the folks who want that content paying for it instead of expecting me to subsidize content I'll never see.
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