Started F2P, within a few weeks I was easily making a few mil a day off the Exchange and make even more now. If you can figure a game out, its easy to get ahead. I started with nothing, Knew no one in the game, Grinded my fed to 50, Jumped on KDF, Grinded to 50 in around 4 days. Started running marauder missions nonstop, Burnt Dil into CP or Bought items with the dil and pushed it to the exchange till that got tiring, then jumped into the gama commodities before everyone and there mother did them, now I am on a new market and rolling in the cash. I run 8 characters, Max there dil refinements Daily. Goto work, come home do it again. Started with nothing, didnt have a big char to bail me out because I forgot the beginning was a Struggle. Sure I am bragging at my accomplishments now. I make a good amount out of this game that I know players older then me that do not touch what I do. Luckily I am not needing an Ego stroking every time I realize my place is very lonely. I do not go out and make posts about the greatness I am that I am still Gold and have yet had the courage to Drop a bulk amount onto the game and go lifetime. While still dropping Loads of Cash into a game I enjoy playing. Being Free 2 Play does not make you any less of a player. With the perks Gold and Lifetime members like myself get, Honestly the Free 2 play members have it better. They buy what they want and get it in whatever ways they need to. Your Free 2 play members (who dont drop a dime onto the game) Support the game just as much OR MORE then a paying member. They are grinding there little butts off for Dilithium to buy our CP's that we pay for and sell to them. If we took all the CP that the gold and lifetime community make and put it to the exchange.. There would be no CP on it. Players are constantly pushing there bought CP to the market and its the F2P community that is buying it and having us buy more. I feel no pity for a Free 2 Play player. In fact I highly respect them. They are able to get the same out of the game that we do, Without dropping a dime. Thats a Smarter player, Not one to pity, but one to admire. The crafty player who owns everything without dropping a dime. I bought my char slots, kept grinding dil, burnt it into EC or CP, Kept expanding. Last month I bought lifetime because I wanted to keep certain benefits of grinding more character slots and not one in a while going gold. Otherwise, except for the lifetime, I generate around 3200CP or more a month from grinding dil out of my 8 characters. That is equal to 8 players burning there Stipend into the Exchange.
Free 2 Play... Play to win.
Lifetime Member
Internet Spaceships is Serious business.
It's not like PVE is ZOMGSOHARD, especially at beginning levels that you die repeatedly without a cash infusion. I've done just fine equipping myself and my Boff's with drops and mission rewards and selling off what I don't need on the exchange.
I've bought some gear along the way with my exchange earnings (mostly ship consoles and weapons), dabbled in crafting (which is only useful at low-mid levels because at some point it becomes a Dil sink), and re-run old missions to get MK XI versions of a few things -- by no means has it been a difficult experience. Leveling up in this game is insanely fast - to level 50 from nothing in less than a month.
*Expecting* someone to pay you to help start a fleet is laughable, even more so if you expect to be paid for joining an existing one. Some people do give rewards for helping start one -- watch ESD/Qo'Nos zone chat, but don't expect it if they didn't announce it. Personally, I just joined a friend's small private fleet.
And yes, I'm another one of those horrid "F2P" that the old-timeys like to whinge about. Don't pity me, I'm doing quite well for myself, thanks, even without a 4000cp ship pack (yet). Feel free to go back to nerd-raging about my existence.
I saw this thread, but sadly I cant read the OP's post as he's on my ignore list. But from browsing the replies and quotes I think i'll leave him there. Nub.
I saw this thread, but sadly I cant read the OP's post as he's on my ignore list. But from browsing the replies and quotes I think i'll leave him there. Nub.
you can still view it, ther is an option in the right upper corner of his post: "view post"
if you have popcorn and a thing for cheap soap operas, you are in for a treat.
I saw this thread, but sadly I cant read the OP's post as he's on my ignore list. But from browsing the replies and quotes I think i'll leave him there. Nub.
Why do fleets recruit, if they are not willing to help you with resources?
That is 'Why do people sign up to fleets?', not "Why do fleets recruit?'
Fleets usually recruit to get access to fleet bank space.
Beyond that, there is the concept that fleets mean something, 'coolness' to having a gang, etc.
And of course there is helping.... Why do you consider direct cash payments the main method of helping? How about sharing advice without spamming general chat, or trading drops directly so there are fewer rainbows out there and without people having to try to sell what they don't need through the exchange?
Signing bonuses seem like a relatively clumsy, lazy way to help people.
- Rainbow ships without *any* consoles and common boffs with only trained skills can finish normal STFs easily if they're following one of the plans that work. They'll take longer than super-duper SNERT ships, but they should be able to get any space normal STF and optional without problems.
Only if the pseudo-elite stick around in such events to participate rather than sneer and run off at the first sign of a rainbow or if the STF isn't going as fast as their standards suggest it should.
They can participate, but they cannot solo them....
Why is there Pitty new payers? Long time players may just have forgotten what it was like when you first started playing. A lot of us have put in the time to accumulate a lot of wealth in the game. This is not different to any other MMO out there. I would only pity a player that's been around since launch that is poor.
Why is there Pitty new payers? Long time players may just have forgotten what it was like when you first started playing. A lot of us have put in the time to accumulate a lot of wealth in the game. This is not different to any other MMO out there. I would only pity a player that's been around since launch that is poor.
Why? You don't need money for anything. Gear from drops, repeating missions,stfs and dilithium, boffs from level ups and doff rewards. You never have to see the exchange.
Why? You don't need money for anything. Gear from drops, repeating missions,stfs and dilithium, boffs from level ups and doff rewards. You never have to see the exchange.
Well, I was just commenting on the OP talking about pitting the poor new players having to start with nothing, and that it is much easier to gear up as a long time player. You right, you don't have to visit the exchange to buy gear, but it can make it easier (i.e. I picked up all my consoles MXII Purple instead of via the DOFF chain). Starbases will change the rules again.
Well, I was just commenting on the OP talking about pitting the poor new players having to start with nothing, and that it is much easier to gear up as a long time player. You right, you don't have to visit the exchange to buy gear, but it can make it easier (i.e. I picked up all my consoles MXII Purple instead of via the DOFF chain). Starbases will change the rules again.
I was crumbing down on f2p ers for playn the game for free decided to be one and found out having nothing sucks. I went from anger, because spending nothing will cause this game to go bankrupt, to pity, because it is not fun to grind this game with nothing and fleets don't help with resources they just try to control you.:eek:
I did the same experiment when STO went F2P on the test server. The only time I thought I was underequipped was when I was around lvl 35 and played mission for level 25 and therefor got mission rewards mk5 when I needed mk7. That was before the mission rewards scaled so meanwhile this should be leveraged as well. (I know I could just have skipped those missions but I wanted to do them)
Having very little inventory space sucks big time, but I remember when coming to STO from EQ2 (where I had billions of megatons bank space compared to here) I felt the same. On the other hand, it was Star Trek! I was so thrilled flying around with my Miranda and later the Nova, doing away missions and such, it would have thrilled me even if it was ASCII art. I was so immersed!
I never felt pity or anger to F2P players. (I have a life time account) They are enjoying the game their way, I am enjoying it my way. That's it. I have my preferences and other people have other preferences, it is good that STO may be played in different ways.
I was crumbing down on f2p ers for playn the game for free decided to be one and found out having nothing sucks. I went from anger, because spending nothing will cause this game to go bankrupt, to pity, because it is not fun to grind this game with nothing and fleets don't help with resources they just try to control you.:eek:
Only if the pseudo-elite stick around in such events to participate rather than sneer and run off at the first sign of a rainbow or if the STF isn't going as fast as their standards suggest it should.
They can participate, but they cannot solo them....
Ugh. People have no perseverance anymoar.
I wish there was some way to figure out who's bailure-ing reliably and lock them out of STFs for like a week.
I'd never abandon a group because of rainbowyness or such. So long as the rainbows are cooperating and not pre-popping gens or cubes or something. And even then I"ll try to salvage the situation.
Teamwork is what counts in an STF, not color-matched XII pewpews.
I wish there was some way to figure out who's bailure-ing reliably and lock them out of STFs for like a week.
I'd never abandon a group because of rainbowyness or such. So long as the rainbows are cooperating and not pre-popping gens or cubes or something. And even then I"ll try to salvage the situation.
Teamwork is what counts in an STF, not color-matched XII pewpews.
100% agree with you. I don't really care if I have a few new cadets along for the run. Us veterans are there to back them up with superior firepower, and to share knowledge during and after the run.
It's not hard at all to preposition and anticipate the weaknesses in the team, and be there for them to save everyone's precious Optional. Each mission is the same, and its very easy to pre-build ships to cover for new players.
I actually don't give a **** if people start bailing - quitting just proves how inept those people are at communication and creating team synergy. If they are so good at 10% and other rules, why not say hi and contribute to organizing the team? What's the point of starting flame wars and rage quitting? If they wanted 10%, they can start the team organization immediately on map entry (as I do). Leadership by example works wonders to break the "expecting to fail" mentality common in PUG games.
In space maps I rarely see that anymore (no not even on Cure Elite, I can usually save blown cubes) but on ground maps... I don't care at all. I can finish the mission with 2-3 good men. Good meaning, receptive, mature and eager to learn newbies
I started a new account f2p to see what it is like to be one of them. the experience was eye opening. To play the game with absolutely nothing was weird to say the least. So I thought to myself 1st thing to do is join a fleet. When I recruit and someone joins my Beautiful Orion fleet always give them 50,000 credits. When I talked to recruiters they kept telling me to grind missions and get credits no one was willing to give up any cash. I logged into my gold account and sent my f2p 250,000. This enabled me to get the kind of gear i wanted to be successful grinding missions. There is real pressure to purchase c-store points when playing f2p because the beginner ship looks like a trash can, one white bo's, ground and space gear all sucked. I therefore change my mine about f2p accounts and my anger has changed to pity.:o
Im a free F2P sto gamer, and i for one revealed in the challenge of starting with nothing . . 0 creds, 0 dil, 0 gpl . . a crappy starting ship, with max speed of warp 5 and a whole new galaxy to explore, where almost every enemy encountered could pop ya if you didnt learn the ropes fast. Most of the enjoyment for me has been helping others, making new friends and STFing with them (they know who they are), building my ship and my STO bank account up . . ive still not got much, but it still has a feeling of a rags to riches story for me . . lol.
Starting from nothing has given me a sense of achievement in the fact that ive had to grind and work for gear, and just because im free to play doesnt mean i dont spend at the C-Store, after all i want to support the game i enjoy so much, and help keep the environment going for me and the buddies ive made.
Having all the top gear isnt really a big deal, since it all drops for free anyway in STFs, i might have to wait a little . . but ill get it eventually . . wheres the fun in having everything straight off ??
Id rather struggle my way up the ladder than take a turbolift to the top any day.
I thank you for your pity, but i gracefully return it to you still wrapped in its gift box . . although touching, i really have no were in my ready room to put it :-( . . . . but thinking about it i do have a Boff i could hand it too . . *Im thinking of fireing him you see, he's just not cutting the mustard* :eek:
I was crumbing down on f2p ers for playn the game for free decided to be one and found out having nothing sucks. I went from anger, because spending nothing will cause this game to go bankrupt, to pity, because it is not fun to grind this game with nothing and fleets don't help with resources they just try to control you.:eek:
You were angry at people for playing a f2p game for free? Buh-whaaa?
Cryptic offered people to play for free if they want. They don't owe you.
So, I have embarked upon the journey, and created a second F2P account, so I can play without all the stuffs I has unlocked previously, either through money thrown at the c store, or dil grinding.
I am pleased to report that the career of one miss Veronica Reagan (Ronnie Raygun to her friends) Has begun and , gasp I am doing rather well , strictly F2P. She's an Engineer. Her ship probably isn't the only USS Pegasus out there, but with a nice purple and light blue paint job, this centaur class looks pretty damned ok. Not the space beast that the OP has described.
Did the first mission , and happened to complete the tutorial just as the multi phasic event kicked off , so scanned every data sample, got every thing in a crate, etc. When I returned to spacedock I put a BUNCH of data samples up for cheaper than the standard price, also a guy walking by said "hey i like your name" , and he gave me a bunch of blue boffs.
So, here I am , after the tutorial , with a fully up Blue BOff crew, 20 K earned by selling data samples, and xtra boffs from that guy.
I'm getting Fleet offers , mostly cuz of the name they keep saying.
And all of them offer assistance.
Be it a spare boff, or advice, or HEY Can I help you with a mission ?
No it's not like planting ec in my hands for joining you, but it is serious offers of help.
Oh well , Off to continue the journey.
Maybe I'll take pictures.
Maybe someone can help me figure out how to post them
So, I have embarked upon the journey, and created a second F2P account, so I can play without all the stuffs I has unlocked previously, either through money thrown at the c store, or dil grinding.
I am pleased to report that the career of one miss Veronica Reagan (Ronnie Raygun to her friends) Has begun and , gasp I am doing rather well , strictly F2P. She's an Engineer. Her ship probably isn't the only USS Pegasus out there, but with a nice purple and light blue paint job, this centaur class looks pretty damned ok. Not the space beast that the OP has described.
Did the first mission , and happened to complete the tutorial just as the multi phasic event kicked off , so scanned every data sample, got every thing in a crate, etc. When I returned to spacedock I put a BUNCH of data samples up for cheaper than the standard price, also a guy walking by said "hey i like your name" , and he gave me a bunch of blue boffs.
So, here I am , after the tutorial , with a fully up Blue BOff crew, 20 K earned by selling data samples, and xtra boffs from that guy.
I'm getting Fleet offers , mostly cuz of the name they keep saying.
And all of them offer assistance.
Be it a spare boff, or advice, or HEY Can I help you with a mission ?
No it's not like planting ec in my hands for joining you, but it is serious offers of help.
Oh well , Off to continue the journey.
Maybe I'll take pictures.
Maybe someone can help me figure out how to post them
But... And this is probably the issue the OP faced... Are you sexy?
I've been back since one week prior to F2P. F2P has been a godsend to STO.
"To play the game with absolutely nothing was weird to say the least"
As a F2P player, I've never gone "without" anything that a subscribed member or gold member might have. I mean no disrespect, but it amazes me at how alot of paying/gold members think they are better that F2P player. It even amazes me that they think we have "nothing".
F2P players can basically get the exact same items in-game, that any member/gold player does. Just because we may choose not to spend real money, doen't mean we have nothing. There's always dilithium crystals to collect and trade for c-points. The only main difference to most of the F2P players is... we may not get some items right off the bat.
"When I talked to recruiters they kept telling me to grind missions and get credits no one was willing to give up any cash"
I do have to admit, I agree with the recruiters. Sure, giving away credits may be a good way to get members... but... They could just as easily turn around and leave. Giving away credits should be something thats earned over time for doing well. My members receive nothing at join up, but the rewards after they've proven themselves are alot higher than just 50k.
"I logged into my gold account and sent my f2p 250,000. This enabled me to get the kind of gear i wanted to be successful grinding missions."
Wow! That's pretty decent, but alas, as most of us know, new accounts dont actually "start out" with a crapload of credits. Want to impress? Do like the rest of us do. Gind from the start. Have zero credits. Make do with what you collect while you're rising to the top. Giving a F2P character 250k.... doesn't really qualify as F2P. Get rid of all that junk and start from absolute scratch, with nothing in the bank, no HG sets, no fleet, and just run missions using ONLY what you collect. That's F2P!
"There is real pressure to purchase c-store points when playing f2p because the beginner ship looks like a trash can"
Only advice I can give..... deal with it. It's all part of F2P and building it up. There's no reward if someone is given everything they want/need in the game. I also play F2P because I enjoy the reward and feeling of actually "earning" something. Not just mailing stuff to me from another account.
lucianalliance
"But honestly the only purpose I see for your "experiment" of slumming around STO is to stir up trouble on the forums. I pity you."
DMA-1986
"You went from anger to pity?
That's a coincidence, I feel the same way about you."
F2P is the savior of STO. If Cryptic didn't merge with PWE, STO would have been gone long ago. So be thankfull to all the F2P players out there that are helping keep your game alive! We may not get certain items as quickly as Golds, but we do get them, and in no way does that hinder our ability to do anything. some of us F2P players have maxed out banks for both personal and fleet. We have d'koras. We have the ability to get c-points for free. We have all purple bridge officers. We have all purple Doffs. We have the ability to get more character slots as well as more costume slots. We can buy keys. We can start and run an extremely well fleet with triple digit members and growing extremely fast.
We can do absolutely anything that a Silver/Gold/Paying member can.
I have such pity for anyone who thinks otherwise.
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Started F2P, within a few weeks I was easily making a few mil a day off the Exchange and make even more now. If you can figure a game out, its easy to get ahead. I started with nothing, Knew no one in the game, Grinded my fed to 50, Jumped on KDF, Grinded to 50 in around 4 days. Started running marauder missions nonstop, Burnt Dil into CP or Bought items with the dil and pushed it to the exchange till that got tiring, then jumped into the gama commodities before everyone and there mother did them, now I am on a new market and rolling in the cash. I run 8 characters, Max there dil refinements Daily. Goto work, come home do it again. Started with nothing, didnt have a big char to bail me out because I forgot the beginning was a Struggle. Sure I am bragging at my accomplishments now. I make a good amount out of this game that I know players older then me that do not touch what I do. Luckily I am not needing an Ego stroking every time I realize my place is very lonely. I do not go out and make posts about the greatness I am that I am still Gold and have yet had the courage to Drop a bulk amount onto the game and go lifetime. While still dropping Loads of Cash into a game I enjoy playing. Being Free 2 Play does not make you any less of a player. With the perks Gold and Lifetime members like myself get, Honestly the Free 2 play members have it better. They buy what they want and get it in whatever ways they need to. Your Free 2 play members (who dont drop a dime onto the game) Support the game just as much OR MORE then a paying member. They are grinding there little butts off for Dilithium to buy our CP's that we pay for and sell to them. If we took all the CP that the gold and lifetime community make and put it to the exchange.. There would be no CP on it. Players are constantly pushing there bought CP to the market and its the F2P community that is buying it and having us buy more. I feel no pity for a Free 2 Play player. In fact I highly respect them. They are able to get the same out of the game that we do, Without dropping a dime. Thats a Smarter player, Not one to pity, but one to admire. The crafty player who owns everything without dropping a dime. I bought my char slots, kept grinding dil, burnt it into EC or CP, Kept expanding. Last month I bought lifetime because I wanted to keep certain benefits of grinding more character slots and not one in a while going gold. Otherwise, except for the lifetime, I generate around 3200CP or more a month from grinding dil out of my 8 characters. That is equal to 8 players burning there Stipend into the Exchange.
Free 2 Play... Play to win.
Lifetime Member
Internet Spaceships is Serious business.
I've bought some gear along the way with my exchange earnings (mostly ship consoles and weapons), dabbled in crafting (which is only useful at low-mid levels because at some point it becomes a Dil sink), and re-run old missions to get MK XI versions of a few things -- by no means has it been a difficult experience. Leveling up in this game is insanely fast - to level 50 from nothing in less than a month.
*Expecting* someone to pay you to help start a fleet is laughable, even more so if you expect to be paid for joining an existing one. Some people do give rewards for helping start one -- watch ESD/Qo'Nos zone chat, but don't expect it if they didn't announce it. Personally, I just joined a friend's small private fleet.
And yes, I'm another one of those horrid "F2P" that the old-timeys like to whinge about. Don't pity me, I'm doing quite well for myself, thanks, even without a 4000cp ship pack (yet). Feel free to go back to nerd-raging about my existence.
you can still view it, ther is an option in the right upper corner of his post: "view post"
if you have popcorn and a thing for cheap soap operas, you are in for a treat.
lol
well done sir
same here on my ignore for very good reason
Umm, no , they didn't.;)
That is 'Why do people sign up to fleets?', not "Why do fleets recruit?'
Fleets usually recruit to get access to fleet bank space.
Beyond that, there is the concept that fleets mean something, 'coolness' to having a gang, etc.
And of course there is helping.... Why do you consider direct cash payments the main method of helping? How about sharing advice without spamming general chat, or trading drops directly so there are fewer rainbows out there and without people having to try to sell what they don't need through the exchange?
Signing bonuses seem like a relatively clumsy, lazy way to help people.
Only if the pseudo-elite stick around in such events to participate rather than sneer and run off at the first sign of a rainbow or if the STF isn't going as fast as their standards suggest it should.
They can participate, but they cannot solo them....
Why? You don't need money for anything. Gear from drops, repeating missions,stfs and dilithium, boffs from level ups and doff rewards. You never have to see the exchange.
Well, I was just commenting on the OP talking about pitting the poor new players having to start with nothing, and that it is much easier to gear up as a long time player. You right, you don't have to visit the exchange to buy gear, but it can make it easier (i.e. I picked up all my consoles MXII Purple instead of via the DOFF chain). Starbases will change the rules again.
I was crumbing down on f2p ers for playn the game for free decided to be one and found out having nothing sucks. I went from anger, because spending nothing will cause this game to go bankrupt, to pity, because it is not fun to grind this game with nothing and fleets don't help with resources they just try to control you.:eek:
Having very little inventory space sucks big time, but I remember when coming to STO from EQ2 (where I had billions of megatons bank space compared to here) I felt the same. On the other hand, it was Star Trek! I was so thrilled flying around with my Miranda and later the Nova, doing away missions and such, it would have thrilled me even if it was ASCII art. I was so immersed!
I never felt pity or anger to F2P players. (I have a life time account) They are enjoying the game their way, I am enjoying it my way. That's it. I have my preferences and other people have other preferences, it is good that STO may be played in different ways.
Grind? What game are you playing?
Ugh. People have no perseverance anymoar.
I wish there was some way to figure out who's bailure-ing reliably and lock them out of STFs for like a week.
I'd never abandon a group because of rainbowyness or such. So long as the rainbows are cooperating and not pre-popping gens or cubes or something. And even then I"ll try to salvage the situation.
Teamwork is what counts in an STF, not color-matched XII pewpews.
If you're a complete n00b, yes. Otherwise it's quite easy to overcome.
Sorry you're still a n00b even after having played so long. Maybe you're the one who deserves the pity.
100% agree with you. I don't really care if I have a few new cadets along for the run. Us veterans are there to back them up with superior firepower, and to share knowledge during and after the run.
It's not hard at all to preposition and anticipate the weaknesses in the team, and be there for them to save everyone's precious Optional. Each mission is the same, and its very easy to pre-build ships to cover for new players.
I actually don't give a **** if people start bailing - quitting just proves how inept those people are at communication and creating team synergy. If they are so good at 10% and other rules, why not say hi and contribute to organizing the team? What's the point of starting flame wars and rage quitting? If they wanted 10%, they can start the team organization immediately on map entry (as I do). Leadership by example works wonders to break the "expecting to fail" mentality common in PUG games.
In space maps I rarely see that anymore (no not even on Cure Elite, I can usually save blown cubes) but on ground maps... I don't care at all. I can finish the mission with 2-3 good men. Good meaning, receptive, mature and eager to learn newbies
Im a free F2P sto gamer, and i for one revealed in the challenge of starting with nothing . . 0 creds, 0 dil, 0 gpl . . a crappy starting ship, with max speed of warp 5 and a whole new galaxy to explore, where almost every enemy encountered could pop ya if you didnt learn the ropes fast. Most of the enjoyment for me has been helping others, making new friends and STFing with them (they know who they are), building my ship and my STO bank account up . . ive still not got much, but it still has a feeling of a rags to riches story for me . . lol.
Starting from nothing has given me a sense of achievement in the fact that ive had to grind and work for gear, and just because im free to play doesnt mean i dont spend at the C-Store, after all i want to support the game i enjoy so much, and help keep the environment going for me and the buddies ive made.
Having all the top gear isnt really a big deal, since it all drops for free anyway in STFs, i might have to wait a little . . but ill get it eventually . . wheres the fun in having everything straight off ??
Id rather struggle my way up the ladder than take a turbolift to the top any day.
I thank you for your pity, but i gracefully return it to you still wrapped in its gift box . . although touching, i really have no were in my ready room to put it :-( . . . . but thinking about it i do have a Boff i could hand it too . . *Im thinking of fireing him you see, he's just not cutting the mustard* :eek:
You are my favorite person of the morning.
Brilliant.
Simply Brilliant.
You were angry at people for playing a f2p game for free? Buh-whaaa?
Cryptic offered people to play for free if they want. They don't owe you.
That's just nutso.
Ha ha ha, thanks HJ . .
I am pleased to report that the career of one miss Veronica Reagan (Ronnie Raygun to her friends)
Did the first mission , and happened to complete the tutorial just as the multi phasic event kicked off , so scanned every data sample, got every thing in a crate, etc. When I returned to spacedock I put a BUNCH of data samples up for cheaper than the standard price, also a guy walking by said "hey i like your name" , and he gave me a bunch of blue boffs.
So, here I am , after the tutorial , with a fully up Blue BOff crew, 20 K earned by selling data samples, and xtra boffs from that guy.
I'm getting Fleet offers , mostly cuz of the name they keep saying.
And all of them offer assistance.
Be it a spare boff, or advice, or HEY Can I help you with a mission ?
No it's not like planting ec in my hands for joining you, but it is serious offers of help.
Oh well , Off to continue the journey.
Maybe I'll take pictures.
Maybe someone can help me figure out how to post them
Do they have to buy a key to open it?
I feel kinda rehashed at this point.
"To play the game with absolutely nothing was weird to say the least"
As a F2P player, I've never gone "without" anything that a subscribed member or gold member might have. I mean no disrespect, but it amazes me at how alot of paying/gold members think they are better that F2P player. It even amazes me that they think we have "nothing".
F2P players can basically get the exact same items in-game, that any member/gold player does. Just because we may choose not to spend real money, doen't mean we have nothing. There's always dilithium crystals to collect and trade for c-points. The only main difference to most of the F2P players is... we may not get some items right off the bat.
"When I talked to recruiters they kept telling me to grind missions and get credits no one was willing to give up any cash"
I do have to admit, I agree with the recruiters. Sure, giving away credits may be a good way to get members... but... They could just as easily turn around and leave. Giving away credits should be something thats earned over time for doing well. My members receive nothing at join up, but the rewards after they've proven themselves are alot higher than just 50k.
"I logged into my gold account and sent my f2p 250,000. This enabled me to get the kind of gear i wanted to be successful grinding missions."
Wow! That's pretty decent, but alas, as most of us know, new accounts dont actually "start out" with a crapload of credits. Want to impress? Do like the rest of us do. Gind from the start. Have zero credits. Make do with what you collect while you're rising to the top. Giving a F2P character 250k.... doesn't really qualify as F2P. Get rid of all that junk and start from absolute scratch, with nothing in the bank, no HG sets, no fleet, and just run missions using ONLY what you collect. That's F2P!
"There is real pressure to purchase c-store points when playing f2p because the beginner ship looks like a trash can"
Only advice I can give..... deal with it. It's all part of F2P and building it up. There's no reward if someone is given everything they want/need in the game. I also play F2P because I enjoy the reward and feeling of actually "earning" something. Not just mailing stuff to me from another account.
lucianalliance
"But honestly the only purpose I see for your "experiment" of slumming around STO is to stir up trouble on the forums. I pity you."
DMA-1986
"You went from anger to pity?
That's a coincidence, I feel the same way about you."
F2P is the savior of STO. If Cryptic didn't merge with PWE, STO would have been gone long ago. So be thankfull to all the F2P players out there that are helping keep your game alive! We may not get certain items as quickly as Golds, but we do get them, and in no way does that hinder our ability to do anything. some of us F2P players have maxed out banks for both personal and fleet. We have d'koras. We have the ability to get c-points for free. We have all purple bridge officers. We have all purple Doffs. We have the ability to get more character slots as well as more costume slots. We can buy keys. We can start and run an extremely well fleet with triple digit members and growing extremely fast.
We can do absolutely anything that a Silver/Gold/Paying member can.
I have such pity for anyone who thinks otherwise.
http://hobog.guildportal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL48UdbdIh0
Become a "real" F2P player... not just F2P, with expensive "gifts" from another account.
I AM the Green Monster, and I approve this message!
Yawne'wI'