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Hi, anyone know if the feds will get a Frigate equivalent to the Fer'Jai?, cause as much fun as the fighters are ( runabouts and delta flyers included ), they can't hold up against Fer'Jai Frigates, especially against the advanced ones that throw tri-cobalts around
and if there is nothing in the works, please can you start working on it, personally, I'd like to see the cat carrier have flying saucers, 1 Because they are cat people and 2 every scifi game needs flying saucers, and if you are thinking flying saucers for cat people is too cheesy, its not that far fetched for feds, cause there ship and station designs are influenced by saucers already
So what do you say? Want to give the feds frigate saucers of death to balance the scales with the Klingons?
Please
and if there is nothing in the works, please can you start working on it, personally, I'd like to see the cat carrier have flying saucers, 1 Because they are cat people and 2 every scifi game needs flying saucers, and if you are thinking flying saucers for cat people is too cheesy, its not that far fetched for feds, cause there ship and station designs are influenced by saucers already
So what do you say? Want to give the feds frigate saucers of death to balance the scales with the Klingons?
Please
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I was thinking more saucer of milk
It would even help those who complain about "too many pets on the map", because frigates are fewer and thus the number of pets would decrease.
And once they have all this added to the fedy side and they have run out of ideas to seel things to the fedy's, the K.D.F. may get the green light from the decision makers, for new stuff to be added just to spark an idea for something to later give to the fedy's.
But yes, of course there will be more carriers and flight deck cruisers for the Federation. We can all see what Starfleet Command sees happening: The carriers actually help in all the war efforts (they are very useful both in PvE and in PvP), so it is only logical to add more carriers to the fleet, building on the experience with the Atrox class. And for those, Aquarius class pets are certainly worth a thought.
The Aquarius is part of the Odyssey, they are not roaming around the Galaxy without there mother ships.
How stupid of KDF to think they should be a full Faction huh sophlogimo?
Pets have way to little hull. They get smashed constantly so need to continuesly spam them out like a candy machine and suffer for critical seconds doing damage.
Oh yes I can stay alive for a long long time, but so can anything else fighting a Atrox. I'm not saying they should add more pets, but rather rebuild some or discharge the failures and insert others a little more usefull.
As it is now I prefer Vo'quv over Atrox. And thats kinda sad thinking I used 2000CP on it, and those I'd rather spent elsewhere now
The tractor beam on the Advanced Danube Runabouts are just too little when they have Chronitron torps (really) speed reduce + speed reduce - damage = fail... It's just not enough.
The Advanced Perigine Fighters are the most to damage you come. But sadly you need to pull them off and back in constantly to get full damage since they always stack up behind the target and aparently then don't fire the Dual Cannons and Torps half the time and then you only doing half the damage. Or the target need to be a very fast one so they wont stack. Hmm where do I find a NPC mob fast enough... Nowhere.
Advanced Stalker Fighters are way to much PvP. IF i liked PvP I would choose those over Perigine because of the placate/drain skills. But they do not work in PvE and they are just awefull in STF's.
Advanced Delta Flyers are on the way to a better build. But it suffers again with the Tachyon Beam and Transphasic Torpedo. Missing damage when the shields are down.
Just saw that my friend are using the Advanced Delta Flyers with Advanced Perigine Fighters. They work slightly better than a mix with Danube and Perigine. Little more damage and he got skills enough to keep mobs in place. But he also whines greatly on the missing pet that just spams out damage like KDF. I however think it's a bit unfair to spam the same damage, considering the defense on a Atrox. But would like it to be MUCH closer than it is now.
I'm on a break at the moment to see where the future updates takes the game. ATM I don't like it and the game is still to easy to level through and way to repetitive in end game for me to keep interest. Sad when I could have recommended it to others. I have to tell the truth (however over-rated the truth might be) and say my own opinion of what is and what could be.
I love the Kar'Fi. It's got a lot of offensive oomph and science options.
I also like the frigates. They are fun and really solid -- one of the least-likely pets to need re-deploying.
But they're not some kind of huge DPS increase. Some of the advanced fighters -- on both sides -- are significantly higher, especially in bursts, despite the Fer'jais' use of tricobolts. They also fly in wide circles around targets, making their attack runs less quick than BoPs or fighter swarms.
It's not that they are bad -- I wouldn't use them if they were -- but the other options have their benefits, as well. Keeping a tighter leash on BoPs, for example, can net wonderful results. And, as mentioned, being able to toss out mobile tractors is pretty rad for control in the Atrox.
As it is now, and you can take the wiki-board for it, there are only science ships greater than a fighter. But there are no Frigates. And why would I use a science pet when I got the skills greater than all the pets combind together. I have no trouble keeping any target/s I take on, in one place and take off the shields. What I have trouble with is the lack of Hull damage I can do when that/those target/s will start fireing at me. Most of my power goes to Aux. and Shields, leaving not much for weapons.
I wouldn't ask at the current time for a copy of a BoP since they are true DPS and they are doing an insane damage. (One of the reasons I love my Vo'quv and one of the reasons you can't place them on the Kar'Fi. Just imagine B'Rotlh BoP's on a Kar'Fi. Huh..)
Simply asking for a Fed Frigate having skills like ''Torpedo: High Yield'', ''Cannon: Rapid Fire'', ''Aceton Beam'' or ''Beam Array: Overload''.
None of these skills are currently seen on the Fed side what I think is rather confusing.
And yet again. The Advanced Perigine Fighter are the most DPS you come. But, as they tend to stack up behind a target and ''slide'' out of main armament arc, you need to micro-manage them alot. Micro-management aren't really any fun here, as you need a target to pull them off or recall them constantly. Taking you off from your target constantly. And with the minor hull they got they constantly burn from even minor damage. I freakin hate those fighters and think it could be better.
I don't believe I'm either asking for to much or asking for
Aside from the fact the KDF are given far more points of contention to discuss, denegrating a point of view other than your own as crying is extremely telling. See you in Ker'rat.
It's the classic argument to make when you have no argument.
The first sentence was precisely that actually, I'm surprised you missed it in such a small paragraph.
I'm surprised you missed the purpose of my post and forgot which side of the line I stand.
I'm surprised too. But not surprised that you're surprised, which perhaps, is surprising?
Suprisa!!!
I would be happy to see one side or the other get something new. Turning both factions into an EXACT copy of each other is a horrible idea.
It's this kind of thinking that makes a bland game.
If you want frigates go KDF.
Couldnt agree more , just because one faction has it , doesnt mean the other should .
KDF has had carrier craft a lot longer than the feddies , its only right and proper they should be better at it
be content in the classes and ship types we have
If someone is crying about something, one would think 'irony' would translate to 'They get all the goodies and have all the advantages! But they are complaining!'
That's clearly not the case, so what about it, exactly, is ironic?
Or is it some definition of 'irony' not found in conventional dictionaries?
Or do you actually think KDF ships are stronger and better than Fed ships, like the Gorn pay science ship with weaker shields than its Fed counterpart?
Is that a joke???
The way i see it we feds are the biggest whiners and this thread proves that we keep wanting for more "shinies" .
if kdf whines are that bad then push cryptic to give them the love that we feds receive from them, their demand for fleshed out faction are more valid than this idea for more ships. Idc for new ships for content like 2800 (which is based on feds pov with swallow kdf tie in) and idc for anything for us feds, even though space stations for both faction is a plus and egc as well is fine but KDF needs some love as well.
I dont like using the other fighter types on my atrox because they dont really match the look and feel of the carrier, so I'm stuck using stalkers. If we had some kind of Caitian heavy fighter or light escort as a hangar option, launching a single craft (max 2 per hangar) instead of three craft (max 6 per hangar), it'd at least give some variety.
I'd say give it tetryon beams instead of turrets, make it a bit larger but similar in design and color to the stalkers, and give it quantum torpedoes and some kind of special attack.
Have a watch of this, Rom represents the STO KDF playerbase and Quark represents the STO Federation playerbase. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaMDvn6561U
It's concise and eloquent in it's simplicity and utter negation of what you are proposing.
The irony lies in what Klingons are supposed to be - and I can hardly imagine my Lt. General saying something like " why do the feds get all the love! I want that, too!" He just wouldn't do that. And he would frown upon anyone who did.