So....I've been around the STF space block a bit. Beaten all, elite and normal, gotten objectives yada yada.
Till yesterday I never even tried grounds. So far out of 4 runs, 3 Kitomers and 1 infected, I've had to quit 2 due to suddenly half only a single teammate left.
Just now. First time in Infected ground (normal)- Mission loads with me states "Hi team...first time here...bare with me". I'm running a Sci toon with Medic kit- so I'm healing and such while shooting borg all over the place. It's goig ...decently....till 3 out of 5 get locked OUT of the first boss fight due to force field and ppl rushing. But we manage. By now the bonus is lost,...no biggy we're going. Get into what I assume is the last room....odd floating borg and shields to take down.
Then 1 team mate beams out after we kill all the borg.
Then we get 3 out of 4 shields down....and next thing I know there's only 2 of us left.
What's the point is quitting by then? I can ALMOST see if it you wanted the bonus objective...but 20 minutes after you lost them?
CS (Elite or Normal) is usually my first STF choice.
As per the last post, how player's deal with the Kang is a big issue in Cure Space (obviously) and it's always interesting to watch.
For example - played Cure on normal yesterday. The moment it commenced someone in a Vo'quv said:
"Hi - I've got the Kang".
I acknowledged this (was the only other player to do so) and promptly flew off to help deal with the generators etc, but made a point of keeping an eye on what the situation was with the Kang. (Doubt I am the only one who has experienced a player who says "I've got the Kang" but doesn't manage to do so).
Anyway - dealt with a few generator shperes and helped despatch a cube (emphasis 'helped' - my Bellerophon Retrofit isn't big on DPS). Swung around to see how the Kang was doing - it didn't look good from my view - four BOP's circling, with two more on the way, and whilst the Vo'quv seemed to be doing an adequate job of keeping them in check, I decided to assist and despatched one of the BOP's pestering the Kang, which was already weakened from fighting the Vo'quv, then intercepted the approaching ones and ran interference, popping gravity well on them and then despatching them by taking their shields out and finishing them off with torpedoes. Managed to despatch them before they reached firing range of the Kang.
To which "Reyan - I've got the Kang, help the others!" pops up in chat.
Though I wanted to say "you weren't doing a fantastic job of it a few minutes ago" I simply replied "Fair enough" and assisted despatching cube number two.
We made our way toward cube three, although I again took a peep at what was happening with the Kang, which was again being bothered by BOP's. Decideded to make my way over again, as the rest of the group didn't seem to be struggling to take out the Cubes and I considered myself more useful interfering with BOP's and Raptors.
Unfortunately before I managed to get within weapons range the 'optional failed' text appears. Now, to be fair, I'm not sure if it was the Kang's 'health' or the timer that caused this (though fairly sure it was the Kang's health) but eitherway, "TRIBBLE guys" appears on the chat screen.
So I reply "so lets just make sure we don't fail the entire mission". No reply, and we did manage to complete the mission, but still......
Tried it again.....god damn I'm tired of ppl quitting at the end of the freaking STF so that you just do NOT have the number of ppl need since Crypic though forcing 3 ppl to do the same thing was a fun idea.
I didn't really figure I'd do any other STF's today. I need to ride out to the golf course and deliver an application.
But Nooooooo...
After getting my afternoon Doff missions together I 'accidentally' enter another CSN.
I come in, say 'Hi' as I always do.
I see three oddy's and an escort.
Now, every time I see an oddy I fear the worst because that's what usually comes from an oddy.
But there are three so I figure I'll be doing most of the work, maybe with some help from the escort.
Two of the oddys fly off to the Kang, the rest of us go to the first cube.
And what do I see? Nothing but rainbow, technicolor beams and skittles cannons.
I kill a BoP and a couple nodes and look back to the Kang.
It's swarmed.
Now, I really didn't want to be there in the first place so I just say 'Ahhh Heck with it' and and keep on with the nodes.
I finish the first cube with little less or no help from the other two.
I say 'Have any of you ever read the forums about setting up your ships?'
No responce.
So I fly over to the second cube, all the others have gone to the Kang.
I type 'Have any of you ever read the forums at all?'
No responce.
I kill a couple ships and the nodes then the cube.
I type 'Can any of you read?'
The optional goes boom.
Someone says 'Stupid noobes!'
I type 'Really? Technicolor Rainbow beams and Skittles cannons and you're calling people noobes?'
No responce.
I zip over to the third cube and it gets dispatched pretty quick.
Now for the carrier.
It wasn't much different than most but two guys were now going hard at it about everyone being noobes.
I type again ' 'Really? Technicolor Rainbow beams and Skittles cannons and you're calling people noobes?'
Someone says 'I have every energy type and that's the best way to do it.'
I say 'Really? You might want to read the forums about that.'
He say's '*%$# the forums. I've been doing this since February and I don't need the forums. My ship is the best one here.' (I cut out all the cuss words) :eek:
I type 'I don't think Pass has much to do with Farming.'
They say 'Then get in here and help'
I say 'And who will protect the Kang?'
He says 'The Kang doesn't need you to protect it. If it's in trouble we can all get it.':
Nothing is worse when people accuse you of things you didn't do. I have had it happen to me and it drives me crazy.
The line, "The Kang doesn't need you to protect it" is hilarious. Usually if the Kang get's in any kind of trouble it's already to late. That player needs to have those words burned into his character bio so others know his level of ineptitude.
Most of these missions I have run over 50 times and people still impart their knowledge on me showing me how little I know. Than there are people like the one mentioned above who have run it a couple of times and think they are an expert.
At least someone manned up and apologized. I can't say I have ever seen that type of behavior in STOl.
I mean, I could be halfway to St George right now on my bike.
I could be in Sturgis checking out the hot chicks.
But Noooooo....
I choose to set here playing this silly game.
Somewhere along to line today I decided I needed to replace two of my heavy cannons with regular duals.
So I needed a couple prototypes.
I cue up an ISE.
Now Cryptic, in their infinate wisdom, changed the hud. So now when I go into space I get one of two displays. The original with the fire buttons or the new one without the fire buttons.
I get into the PuG and see I have the hud without buttons.
Lucky for me I have my mouse set up to fire but I prefer the buttons on the hud.
I See that the Pug is three oddys and a Galaxy.
Now the Galaxy is the only other ship in the fleet that is comparativily as bad as an oddy.
I say 'Hi' like I usually do.
So everyone is firing away with technicolor rainbow beams. All is going relativily well.
The first set of nodes and generator die properly with a minimum number of spheres spawning.
All is going relitivily well.
But I see that the spheres and nanites are not dying.
So I type my usual 'Please take your weapons off stun.'
I get too close to the gate and get killed.
I respawn.
Now I have the Hud with buttons. Yippee...
So I return to the group and join the kill.
I see the Galaxy and an oddy go boom. :eek:
Great.
The Spears are finished before the other two get back.
It took an unusually long time to finish the Spheres and I didn't figure we could finish the optional on time.
So....
We all head off to side two,
The Cube dies and I turn to knock down a node.
Three oddys are behind me shooting the nodes and a Galaxy on the other side working on a node.
Boom, the oddys killed both nodes they where working on early.
I kill mine immediatly and try to shoot the one the Gslasxy was working at.
The Galaxy's node is still at 80% so I'm firing away at it.
The three oddys are shooting the generator.
I say 'There's still a node alive.'
They just keep shooting the generator.
The node finally dies but i get killed.
I heal and respawn and head back to the Generator.
Now I have no fire buttons again.
There are sphears and nanites all over.
I start working on them and watch two oddys die.
Now my mouse locks up.
I;me leaving a slowww ugly mouse trail and have a ton of lag in the buttons.
I get killed.
75 seconds later I respawn.
Now I have buttons,
I fly back, mouse still lagging but I can click on the hud fire butons..
We finish the gate and are working on the cube.
I die.
Forever later I respawn, No hud buttons.
The oddys all get killed so I try to set 9.5 K out from the cube and keep firing.
It doesn't work and my mouse is so bad I can't do much with my heals.
I get killed.
I come back about a month later and the Cube had actually healled a little.
I have hud firnig buttons again.
I see the Galaxy and two oddys die.
Finally after about three weeks of shooting the cube dies.
You know if you tap esc twice it usually switches whatever space skillbar version that pops up to the other?
No I didn't know that. Thank you. It may help. The biggest problems was the sudden mouse lag. If I can get out of town today I'll go get a wired gaming mouse. The temp here is still in the 30's and I have to ride the bike. It's 100 miles any direction to the nearest store that carries mice.
No I didn't know that. Thank you. It may help. The biggest problems was the sudden mouse lag. If I can get out of town today I'll go get a wired gaming mouse. The temp here is still in the 30's and I have to ride the bike. It's 100 miles any direction to the nearest store that carries mice.
Don't know about mouse-lag, but the lag experienced whenever someone farts out any type of gas cloud is terrible.
Don't know about mouse-lag, but the lag experienced whenever someone farts out any type of gas cloud is terrible.
Mouse lag is the only lag I've had in a long long time.
If you're having any other troubles with lag there's a number of posts which tell how to fix it. After I called the phone company and had a few things done to my internet lag problems dissapeared.
No I didn't know that. Thank you. It may help. The biggest problems was the sudden mouse lag. If I can get out of town today I'll go get a wired gaming mouse. The temp here is still in the 30's and I have to ride the bike. It's 100 miles any direction to the nearest store that carries mice.
I doubt it's your mouse, I've managed to get through several mice in the last couple of years and the laggy cursor has afflicted all ofthem; I've used everything from a Microsoft X8 to a Razer Naga with several Logitech in between and they all have this same intermittent problem.
It's pretty easy to deal with though, either hit the ship icon to balance shields (it usually clears the laggy cursor) or if you're on the ground dragging a scroll bar like in chat or the options UI (I always use the scroll bar in the keybinds settings) will clear it too.
I doubt it's your mouse, I've managed to get through several mice in the last couple of years and the laggy cursor has afflicted all ofthem; I've used everything from a Microsoft X8 to a Razer Naga with several Logitech in between and they all have this same intermittent problem.
It's pretty easy to deal with though, either hit the ship icon to balance shields (it usually clears the laggy cursor) or if you're on the ground dragging a scroll bar like in chat or the options UI (I always use the scroll bar in the keybinds settings) will clear it too.
I didn't play KAGE for a longtime. So today Idecided to play one.
We deal everything. It was perfect. In the last room. Someone asked an interesting. "Does anyone knows how to use lower shield?" I thought. Ouch. They play so nice and they don't know how to do in the last room. Suddenly one player left. Anyway I said I go there. I started B3. 3 times. I saw theiir health. I stopped. And I asked what's wrong. They said there are 2. I said where is the third player. They told me he's overthere. We wait for him for 10 minutes. He didn't move, he didn't talk. Nothing. He did afk in the last room. Total failed.:eek:
Well, today learnt that I shouldn't really go anywhere near Elite STF's in my Intrepid Retrofit.
Logged in first thing this morning, to play before I head off to work - a routine a rather enjoy. Unfortunately, in my 'just got out of bed' state I joined a queue for ISE (I don't usually participate in Elite STF's).
It soon became obvious to me that I was in an Elite rather than a Normal Infected. So, likely thanks to me, the optional failed as it became obvious that I couldn't crowd control the nanite spheres as I do the probes in IS normal and got but butt kicked several times as a result (and the respawn timer is such a delight in these circumstances :rolleyes: )
Anyway - I didn't really see any point in bailing, even if I did suck, and continued popping GW to slow the spheres/probes, shield drains, popping my ablative armour on if I received too much unwanted Borg attention and healing the other team members. Mission passed and received two EDC's.
But never again! Not in my Intrepid retro anyway - it does pretty well in normals but my abismal performance in Elite suggests that I'd do better to use my Science Odyssey IF do an Elite again.
Well, today learnt that I shouldn't really go anywhere near Elite STF's in my Intrepid Retrofit.
Logged in first thing this morning, to play before I head off to work - a routine a rather enjoy. Unfortunately, in my 'just got out of bed' state I joined a queue for ISE (I don't usually participate in Elite STF's).
It soon became obvious to me that I was in an Elite rather than a Normal Infected. So, likely thanks to me, the optional failed as it became obvious that I couldn't crowd control the nanite spheres as I do the probes in IS normal and got but butt kicked several times as a result (and the respawn timer is such a delight in these circumstances :rolleyes: )
Anyway - I didn't really see any point in bailing, even if I did suck, and continued popping GW to slow the spheres/probes, shield drains, popping my ablative armour on if I received too much unwanted Borg attention and healing the other team members. Mission passed and received two EDC's.
But never again! Not in my Intrepid retro anyway - it does pretty well in normals but my abismal performance in Elite suggests that I'd do better to use my Science Odyssey IF do an Elite again.
No offense, but the intrepid refit can be a monster as a torp boat. But even if not, flying it in ISE is easy as pie. Just don't expect to kill all the spheres on your own. It's Elite for a reason. Your job is to slow them down until the others blow the transformer. Then heal and help dispatching them. And when the Tac cube comes, your job is to troll it so the DPS ships can finish it off without dying. As simple as that. And no, the LRSV refit does not suck in elites. I got my first prototype salvage in that craft.
No offense, but the intrepid refit can be a monster as a torp boat. But even if not, flying it in ISE is easy as pie. Just don't expect to kill all the spheres on your own. It's Elite for a reason. Your job is to slow them down until the others blow the transformer. Then heal and help dispatching them. And when the Tac cube comes, your job is to troll it so the DPS ships can finish it off without dying. As simple as that. And no, the LRSV refit does not suck in elites. I got my first prototype salvage in that craft.
Well, mine IS more a torpedo boat than much else - three forward, one aft - all photon torpedo launchers so have a more rapid firing rate and a purple detionation chambe console for a little extra punch. Also have Omega shields, Omega engine, Borg Deflector and console, so can usually withstand a fair pounding.
Nothing wrong with the ship set up, I took pointers from Cygone. Classic case of the player being the weak link.
I guess me and @carmenera have been really lucky,ive played 210 stfs,normal and elite,some with 1 to 3 fleet mates,and to be honest a lot by myself,and i have not had one really abysmal STF,ive had one player be terribad,but nothing the rest of us couldn't compensate for,hell me and carmenera went into an ISE and a guy in a Vo'Quv thought him and his fighters could take one side by himself,i was in my MVAE,so i tried popping GW1 and keeping the probes off of his side,but gave up and joined the others in left side clean up while numb n*** kept trying and failing to tank,did i mention it was a rainbow carrier? it was funny but again it wasn't as bad as it could have been
I guess me and @carmenera have been really lucky,ive played 210 stfs,normal and elite,some with 1 to 3 fleet mates,and to be honest a lot by myself,and i have not had one really abysmal STF.
Maybe you're lucky. I played more than 300 STF. So actually I realized The Infected Space normal is playing by a lot of instant admiral (sorry for my words). I prefer to play The Infected Space elire eventhough I wouldn't get optionnals more than normal space infected. It's a mess!! They don't talk in the chat. They do what they want to do. They have not enough dps but they really don't care.
I played more than 300 STF as Federation player. I'm about 15 STF as klingon player. When the infected space is failed. I can say "thanks to" tactical federation player. All of my failed STF is fault of Tactical federation player. Now when I see a tactical federation player is flying like a s**t fly. I guess the STF would fail.:D Now when I see a tactical federation player is fighting with martial arts in ground STF. I guess it would fail.
Well, mine IS more a torpedo boat than much else - three forward, one aft - all photon torpedo launchers so have a more rapid firing rate and a purple detionation chambe console for a little extra punch. Also have Omega shields, Omega engine, Borg Deflector and console, so can usually withstand a fair pounding.
Nothing wrong with the ship set up, I took pointers from Cygone. Classic case of the player being the weak link.
It's just a slight playstyle change.
Standard tactics in Infected on Normal is to blow everything up and clear the borg spawn as they come in.
Standard tactics in Infected on elite is to damage the four generators down to 10% Health (so remember to take OFF autofire), then kill them all at once and immediately have everyone attack the Transformer. (The Transformer can only be damaged after the generators are destroyed, you'll find people save their damage output buffs for the Transformer).
On a PUG Elite Infected, you'll often find that someone kills a generator early (whilst at least one of the others is still >70% HP) which will start spawning the waves of Nanite Spheres from the gateway. At that point, you'll usually want to use an ability or two to try to slow the incoming Nanite Spheres down - and then turn your attention back to the Transformer.
In an escort, I can usually cope with an "oops" moment on the generators by using Evasive + APO + a Vent Theta Console to dump a cloud of Warp Plasma in the path of the spheres, then help focus fire kill the Transformer before the Spheres can struggle their way through the plasma and into healing range of it.
Had a guy just now, with a group of somewhat decent noobies to stf's. One says they can watch Kang, the rest of us fly off to the first cube. Start pounding away, and notice on of the guys is 56k away...ask if he got dc'd..no answer from anyone.
Ask a second time about 15 sec later, guy chimes in "oh, no i was afk" :eek:
Finish off the first cube before he can get back to us. No big deal, no harm done....right?
Take care of the BoP's and Raptors, and get going on the second cube. Get the first set of probes done, when I notice the same guy is over 30k away, thinking he's back helping defend Kang. Nope, he's sitting where the first cube was. Ok, maybe he got DC'd this time. So I ask, with of course no reply. Get the cube down close to 50% before he pipes back up "oh, i went afk again" :mad:
Ok, at that time I knew what he was doing. Guessing the rest of you can too.
So, the rest of us continue on, clearing everything before hitting the last cube. Low and behold, guess who's just sitting where the second cube just was. :rolleyes: By this point I'm just wanting to get thru it as fast as possible to try and get the Optional before time runs out...4min left by the way when we get started on the last cube.
So 4 of us, my escort, and two sovereigns with skittles and a klingon Quv' plugging away, Manage to get it down with 30 sec left.:)
And now its time for the Carrier. Our 5th still sitting where the middle cube is. Longest Carrier I have EVER done. Can't blame the Skittles since it was their first STF (found out afterwards) Quv went after everything but the carrier...which was all right at that point, I just didn't care. Our "afk'er" was still clicking need on every loot drop until it was over.
When all was said and done, I told him in not the nicest of ways, that he shouldn't join stf's if he's just going to sit there.
I'm sure I got reported due to some poor choice of words, but oh well.
Made two new friends, who I'm going to help with their builds when they get back online.
Standard tactics in Infected on Normal is to blow everything up and clear the borg spawn as they come in.
Standard tactics in Infected on elite is to damage the four generators down to 10% Health (so remember to take OFF autofire), then kill them all at once and immediately have everyone attack the Transformer. (The Transformer can only be damaged after the generators are destroyed, you'll find people save their damage output buffs for the Transformer).
On a PUG Elite Infected, you'll often find that someone kills a generator early (whilst at least one of the others is still >70% HP) which will start spawning the waves of Nanite Spheres from the gateway. At that point, you'll usually want to use an ability or two to try to slow the incoming Nanite Spheres down - and then turn your attention back to the Transformer.
In an escort, I can usually cope with an "oops" moment on the generators by using Evasive + APO + a Vent Theta Console to dump a cloud of Warp Plasma in the path of the spheres, then help focus fire kill the Transformer before the Spheres can struggle their way through the plasma and into healing range of it.
Well, in retrospect I guess that it wasn't entirely my fault. My crowd-control may have been severely lacking, and this might have been why the optional failed, but it certainly wasn't me that caused the mass sphere/probe spawning.
As said in my earlier post, I was working on crowd control and healing - took a few shots at a generator but definitely didn't break the 10% rule .
No offense, but the intrepid refit can be a monster as a torp boat. But even if not, flying it in ISE is easy as pie. Just don't expect to kill all the spheres on your own. It's Elite for a reason. Your job is to slow them down until the others blow the transformer. Then heal and help dispatching them. And when the Tac cube comes, your job is to troll it so the DPS ships can finish it off without dying. As simple as that. And no, the LRSV refit does not suck in elites. I got my first prototype salvage in that craft.
Agreed. I actually find the Voy to be quite fun to play in Elite, as it allows me to do some real flying instead of sitting around, shooting off cannons all day. You just have to know your place in the grand scheme of things and when to fire off its awesome debuffs. However, your comment about making it a torp boat is interesting, as it gives me a valid excuse to start using tachyon beams again. I should give that a try since the DBB's just aren't fun to use at all. The question now is whether I should go for all Quants or all Photons.
Agreed. I actually find the Voy to be quite fun to play in Elite, as it allows me to do some real flying instead of sitting around, shooting off cannons all day. You just have to know your place in the grand scheme of things and when to fire off its awesome debuffs. However, your comment about making it a torp boat is interesting, as it gives me a valid excuse to start using tachyon beams again. I should give that a try since the DBB's just aren't fun to use at all. The question now is whether I should go for all Quants or all Photons.
Photons do better DPS as they reload faster and you can therefore fire off more of them.
Well, in retrospect I guess that it wasn't entirely my fault. My crowd-control may have been severely lacking, and this might have been why the optional failed, but it certainly wasn't me that caused the mass sphere/probe spawning.
As said in my earlier post, I was working on crowd control and healing - took a few shots at a generator but definitely didn't break the 10% rule .
I see this all the time in ISE Pugs.
The nodes blow and three rainbows take off to kill spheres without shooting the generator.
If everyone focuses on the generator right away and forgets the spheres until the gen is dead things work much better,
Well, there was today where someone received ALL of the loot drops and all of the STF Optional rewards, despite everyone else pressing Need along with her...
I had an awesome moment with KA space normal today. I flew in between the Scimitar's . . . . I don't know what you call it. Screenshots: I'm the defiant class ship.
Well, there was today where someone received ALL of the loot drops and all of the STF Optional rewards, despite everyone else pressing Need along with her...
It's interesting how that works. Someone with 0 DPS, Technicolor/rainbow beams or Skittle cannons, they die repeatedly, or set off in the distance 70K and they get all the drops. I haven't figured that one out yet. The only drops I ever get are lock boxes and the final drop.
Oh well, most of the stuff is useless anyhow other than maybe to sell on the exchange.
i think for me the worst STF experience was yesterdays Infected event 3 times throughout the day when i had a chance to play i qued up got in the game only to be dumped in a completed mission that folks were stuck in. and then when i left the map was stuck with the 1 hour cool down timer.. 3 TIMES! that occured..
then it went from bad to worse.. a couple of times i did the Infected Space Elite and TWICE! completed the mission clicked on my drop box to collect my reward.. the box disapears annnnnd i recieved absolutely NOTHING! and some of those drops were pretty nice ones also.. so that also pretty peeved me off massively.
i am noticing since the last update to STF's the maps are increasingly getting buggy and glitchy and disconnects happen more often and so on and so forthe... so my weekly wednesday stf day yesterday was a total let down
i really wish Goza and the team would polish up the stfs and fix some of these regular irritating bugs etc before adding new missions to the line up as at the moment i really dont feel like playing em at the moment especially after yesterdays experience.
The nodes blow and three rainbows take off to kill spheres without shooting the generator.
If everyone focuses on the generator right away and forgets the spheres until the gen is dead things work much better,
But that almost never happens in a PuG.
Well, entered CSE earlier - more for the experience than anything else. Subsequently discovered that I should stay out of Elite STF's
To be fair, there was a Vet present, who greeted everyone and checked if everyone knew what they were doing. I was the only one who replied - and since I am used to Normal STF's I advised that I am familiar with Cure Space, although not familiar with the Elite version. No-one else replied.
The Vet gave pointers, and sound advice, but it seemed pretty obvious that no-one else was paying attention. The Kang received a pounding in short order and the Vet had to park himself by the Kang, healing and holding off the increasing number of BOP's etc that were being ignored.
I attempted crowd control. And failed. After reappeared following respawn, Vet suggested that I concentrate on the generators. I did so. And failed. Again. As did the optional. And, unfortunately, at this one of the players bailed.
Anyway - by this time it was becoming obvious to both myself and the Vet that I wasn't really a great deal of help, especially since we were a player/team member down (though the Vet was kind enough not to say so, simply encouraging me to keep trying).
So try I did - and the term 'epic fail' would seem to apply; I unfortunately wound up snagged by two Borg tractorbeams, and despite throwing polarise hull, scramble sensors and PS, found myself on the receiving end of a one-minute timed respawn.
When finally reappeared was greeted with the sight of numerous Borg ships swarming the Kang - flew to assist. Fired off GW, FAW, and a torpedo spread but the Kang went boom and the demoralising 'mission failed' text appeared.
Vet gave some friendly advice - namely that we needed to improve our builds. He wasn't wrong, though I wanted to add that it would've helped if the other players had actually listened to the one person who knew what he was doing!
Though have posted some unfortunate STF experiences I've had, this one definitely qualifies as my worst. And I am not going to burden a team with my presense in an Elite STF again.
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Till yesterday I never even tried grounds. So far out of 4 runs, 3 Kitomers and 1 infected, I've had to quit 2 due to suddenly half only a single teammate left.
Just now. First time in Infected ground (normal)- Mission loads with me states "Hi team...first time here...bare with me". I'm running a Sci toon with Medic kit- so I'm healing and such while shooting borg all over the place. It's goig ...decently....till 3 out of 5 get locked OUT of the first boss fight due to force field and ppl rushing. But we manage. By now the bonus is lost,...no biggy we're going. Get into what I assume is the last room....odd floating borg and shields to take down.
Then 1 team mate beams out after we kill all the borg.
Then we get 3 out of 4 shields down....and next thing I know there's only 2 of us left.
What's the point is quitting by then? I can ALMOST see if it you wanted the bonus objective...but 20 minutes after you lost them?
As per the last post, how player's deal with the Kang is a big issue in Cure Space (obviously) and it's always interesting to watch.
For example - played Cure on normal yesterday. The moment it commenced someone in a Vo'quv said:
"Hi - I've got the Kang".
I acknowledged this (was the only other player to do so) and promptly flew off to help deal with the generators etc, but made a point of keeping an eye on what the situation was with the Kang. (Doubt I am the only one who has experienced a player who says "I've got the Kang" but doesn't manage to do so).
Anyway - dealt with a few generator shperes and helped despatch a cube (emphasis 'helped' - my Bellerophon Retrofit isn't big on DPS). Swung around to see how the Kang was doing - it didn't look good from my view - four BOP's circling, with two more on the way, and whilst the Vo'quv seemed to be doing an adequate job of keeping them in check, I decided to assist and despatched one of the BOP's pestering the Kang, which was already weakened from fighting the Vo'quv, then intercepted the approaching ones and ran interference, popping gravity well on them and then despatching them by taking their shields out and finishing them off with torpedoes. Managed to despatch them before they reached firing range of the Kang.
To which "Reyan - I've got the Kang, help the others!" pops up in chat.
Though I wanted to say "you weren't doing a fantastic job of it a few minutes ago" I simply replied "Fair enough" and assisted despatching cube number two.
We made our way toward cube three, although I again took a peep at what was happening with the Kang, which was again being bothered by BOP's. Decideded to make my way over again, as the rest of the group didn't seem to be struggling to take out the Cubes and I considered myself more useful interfering with BOP's and Raptors.
Unfortunately before I managed to get within weapons range the 'optional failed' text appears. Now, to be fair, I'm not sure if it was the Kang's 'health' or the timer that caused this (though fairly sure it was the Kang's health) but eitherway, "TRIBBLE guys" appears on the chat screen.
So I reply "so lets just make sure we don't fail the entire mission". No reply, and we did manage to complete the mission, but still......
I didn't really figure I'd do any other STF's today. I need to ride out to the golf course and deliver an application.
But Nooooooo...
After getting my afternoon Doff missions together I 'accidentally' enter another CSN.
I come in, say 'Hi' as I always do.
I see three oddy's and an escort.
Now, every time I see an oddy I fear the worst because that's what usually comes from an oddy.
But there are three so I figure I'll be doing most of the work, maybe with some help from the escort.
Two of the oddys fly off to the Kang, the rest of us go to the first cube.
And what do I see? Nothing but rainbow, technicolor beams and skittles cannons.
I kill a BoP and a couple nodes and look back to the Kang.
It's swarmed.
Now, I really didn't want to be there in the first place so I just say 'Ahhh Heck with it' and and keep on with the nodes.
I finish the first cube with little less or no help from the other two.
I say 'Have any of you ever read the forums about setting up your ships?'
No responce.
So I fly over to the second cube, all the others have gone to the Kang.
I type 'Have any of you ever read the forums at all?'
No responce.
I kill a couple ships and the nodes then the cube.
I type 'Can any of you read?'
The optional goes boom.
Someone says 'Stupid noobes!'
I type 'Really? Technicolor Rainbow beams and Skittles cannons and you're calling people noobes?'
No responce.
I zip over to the third cube and it gets dispatched pretty quick.
Now for the carrier.
It wasn't much different than most but two guys were now going hard at it about everyone being noobes.
I type again ' 'Really? Technicolor Rainbow beams and Skittles cannons and you're calling people noobes?'
Someone says 'I have every energy type and that's the best way to do it.'
I say 'Really? You might want to read the forums about that.'
He say's '*%$# the forums. I've been doing this since February and I don't need the forums. My ship is the best one here.' (I cut out all the cuss words) :eek:
I say 'Let's go tard, One on One.'
No responce.
He gathers his loot and leaves.
I send a private challange.
No responce.
So goes my day and I'm off to the Golf Course.
Nothing is worse when people accuse you of things you didn't do. I have had it happen to me and it drives me crazy.
The line, "The Kang doesn't need you to protect it" is hilarious. Usually if the Kang get's in any kind of trouble it's already to late. That player needs to have those words burned into his character bio so others know his level of ineptitude.
Most of these missions I have run over 50 times and people still impart their knowledge on me showing me how little I know. Than there are people like the one mentioned above who have run it a couple of times and think they are an expert.
At least someone manned up and apologized. I can't say I have ever seen that type of behavior in STOl.
Am I a glutton for punishment or what.
I mean, I could be halfway to St George right now on my bike.
I could be in Sturgis checking out the hot chicks.
But Noooooo....
I choose to set here playing this silly game.
Somewhere along to line today I decided I needed to replace two of my heavy cannons with regular duals.
So I needed a couple prototypes.
I cue up an ISE.
Now Cryptic, in their infinate wisdom, changed the hud. So now when I go into space I get one of two displays. The original with the fire buttons or the new one without the fire buttons.
I get into the PuG and see I have the hud without buttons.
Lucky for me I have my mouse set up to fire but I prefer the buttons on the hud.
I See that the Pug is three oddys and a Galaxy.
Now the Galaxy is the only other ship in the fleet that is comparativily as bad as an oddy.
I say 'Hi' like I usually do.
So everyone is firing away with technicolor rainbow beams. All is going relativily well.
The first set of nodes and generator die properly with a minimum number of spheres spawning.
All is going relitivily well.
But I see that the spheres and nanites are not dying.
So I type my usual 'Please take your weapons off stun.'
I get too close to the gate and get killed.
I respawn.
Now I have the Hud with buttons. Yippee...
So I return to the group and join the kill.
I see the Galaxy and an oddy go boom. :eek:
Great.
The Spears are finished before the other two get back.
It took an unusually long time to finish the Spheres and I didn't figure we could finish the optional on time.
So....
We all head off to side two,
The Cube dies and I turn to knock down a node.
Three oddys are behind me shooting the nodes and a Galaxy on the other side working on a node.
Boom, the oddys killed both nodes they where working on early.
I kill mine immediatly and try to shoot the one the Gslasxy was working at.
The Galaxy's node is still at 80% so I'm firing away at it.
The three oddys are shooting the generator.
I say 'There's still a node alive.'
They just keep shooting the generator.
The node finally dies but i get killed.
I heal and respawn and head back to the Generator.
Now I have no fire buttons again.
There are sphears and nanites all over.
I start working on them and watch two oddys die.
Now my mouse locks up.
I;me leaving a slowww ugly mouse trail and have a ton of lag in the buttons.
I get killed.
75 seconds later I respawn.
Now I have buttons,
I fly back, mouse still lagging but I can click on the hud fire butons..
We finish the gate and are working on the cube.
I die.
Forever later I respawn, No hud buttons.
The oddys all get killed so I try to set 9.5 K out from the cube and keep firing.
It doesn't work and my mouse is so bad I can't do much with my heals.
I get killed.
I come back about a month later and the Cube had actually healled a little.
I have hud firnig buttons again.
I see the Galaxy and two oddys die.
Finally after about three weeks of shooting the cube dies.
Everybody says GG.
YEA RIGHT!!!
Plus, NO PROTOTYPE!
Oh Well...
:rolleyes:
No I didn't know that. Thank you. It may help. The biggest problems was the sudden mouse lag. If I can get out of town today I'll go get a wired gaming mouse. The temp here is still in the 30's and I have to ride the bike. It's 100 miles any direction to the nearest store that carries mice.
Don't know about mouse-lag, but the lag experienced whenever someone farts out any type of gas cloud is terrible.
There is a setting in Troubleshooting section of graphics options that may help with this and mouse lag.
Mouse lag - software cursor option
Farts killing fps - disable GPU-accelerated particles and enable multi-core rendering
Mouse lag is the only lag I've had in a long long time.
If you're having any other troubles with lag there's a number of posts which tell how to fix it. After I called the phone company and had a few things done to my internet lag problems dissapeared.
I doubt it's your mouse, I've managed to get through several mice in the last couple of years and the laggy cursor has afflicted all ofthem; I've used everything from a Microsoft X8 to a Razer Naga with several Logitech in between and they all have this same intermittent problem.
It's pretty easy to deal with though, either hit the ship icon to balance shields (it usually clears the laggy cursor) or if you're on the ground dragging a scroll bar like in chat or the options UI (I always use the scroll bar in the keybinds settings) will clear it too.
Yea, but I need an excuse to get out of town. LOL
We deal everything. It was perfect. In the last room. Someone asked an interesting. "Does anyone knows how to use lower shield?" I thought. Ouch. They play so nice and they don't know how to do in the last room. Suddenly one player left. Anyway I said I go there. I started B3. 3 times. I saw theiir health. I stopped. And I asked what's wrong. They said there are 2. I said where is the third player. They told me he's overthere. We wait for him for 10 minutes. He didn't move, he didn't talk. Nothing. He did afk in the last room. Total failed.:eek:
Logged in first thing this morning, to play before I head off to work - a routine a rather enjoy. Unfortunately, in my 'just got out of bed' state I joined a queue for ISE (I don't usually participate in Elite STF's).
It soon became obvious to me that I was in an Elite rather than a Normal Infected. So, likely thanks to me, the optional failed as it became obvious that I couldn't crowd control the nanite spheres as I do the probes in IS normal and got but butt kicked several times as a result (and the respawn timer is such a delight in these circumstances :rolleyes: )
Anyway - I didn't really see any point in bailing, even if I did suck, and continued popping GW to slow the spheres/probes, shield drains, popping my ablative armour on if I received too much unwanted Borg attention and healing the other team members. Mission passed and received two EDC's.
But never again! Not in my Intrepid retro anyway - it does pretty well in normals but my abismal performance in Elite suggests that I'd do better to use my Science Odyssey IF do an Elite again.
No offense, but the intrepid refit can be a monster as a torp boat. But even if not, flying it in ISE is easy as pie. Just don't expect to kill all the spheres on your own. It's Elite for a reason. Your job is to slow them down until the others blow the transformer. Then heal and help dispatching them. And when the Tac cube comes, your job is to troll it so the DPS ships can finish it off without dying. As simple as that. And no, the LRSV refit does not suck in elites. I got my first prototype salvage in that craft.
Well, mine IS more a torpedo boat than much else - three forward, one aft - all photon torpedo launchers so have a more rapid firing rate and a purple detionation chambe console for a little extra punch. Also have Omega shields, Omega engine, Borg Deflector and console, so can usually withstand a fair pounding.
Nothing wrong with the ship set up, I took pointers from Cygone. Classic case of the player being the weak link.
Maybe you're lucky. I played more than 300 STF. So actually I realized The Infected Space normal is playing by a lot of instant admiral (sorry for my words). I prefer to play The Infected Space elire eventhough I wouldn't get optionnals more than normal space infected. It's a mess!! They don't talk in the chat. They do what they want to do. They have not enough dps but they really don't care.
I played more than 300 STF as Federation player. I'm about 15 STF as klingon player. When the infected space is failed. I can say "thanks to" tactical federation player. All of my failed STF is fault of Tactical federation player. Now when I see a tactical federation player is flying like a s**t fly. I guess the STF would fail.:D Now when I see a tactical federation player is fighting with martial arts in ground STF. I guess it would fail.
It's just a slight playstyle change.
Standard tactics in Infected on Normal is to blow everything up and clear the borg spawn as they come in.
Standard tactics in Infected on elite is to damage the four generators down to 10% Health (so remember to take OFF autofire), then kill them all at once and immediately have everyone attack the Transformer. (The Transformer can only be damaged after the generators are destroyed, you'll find people save their damage output buffs for the Transformer).
On a PUG Elite Infected, you'll often find that someone kills a generator early (whilst at least one of the others is still >70% HP) which will start spawning the waves of Nanite Spheres from the gateway. At that point, you'll usually want to use an ability or two to try to slow the incoming Nanite Spheres down - and then turn your attention back to the Transformer.
In an escort, I can usually cope with an "oops" moment on the generators by using Evasive + APO + a Vent Theta Console to dump a cloud of Warp Plasma in the path of the spheres, then help focus fire kill the Transformer before the Spheres can struggle their way through the plasma and into healing range of it.
Ask a second time about 15 sec later, guy chimes in "oh, no i was afk" :eek:
Finish off the first cube before he can get back to us. No big deal, no harm done....right?
Take care of the BoP's and Raptors, and get going on the second cube. Get the first set of probes done, when I notice the same guy is over 30k away, thinking he's back helping defend Kang. Nope, he's sitting where the first cube was. Ok, maybe he got DC'd this time. So I ask, with of course no reply. Get the cube down close to 50% before he pipes back up "oh, i went afk again" :mad:
Ok, at that time I knew what he was doing. Guessing the rest of you can too.
So, the rest of us continue on, clearing everything before hitting the last cube. Low and behold, guess who's just sitting where the second cube just was. :rolleyes: By this point I'm just wanting to get thru it as fast as possible to try and get the Optional before time runs out...4min left by the way when we get started on the last cube.
So 4 of us, my escort, and two sovereigns with skittles and a klingon Quv' plugging away, Manage to get it down with 30 sec left.:)
And now its time for the Carrier. Our 5th still sitting where the middle cube is. Longest Carrier I have EVER done. Can't blame the Skittles since it was their first STF (found out afterwards) Quv went after everything but the carrier...which was all right at that point, I just didn't care. Our "afk'er" was still clicking need on every loot drop until it was over.
When all was said and done, I told him in not the nicest of ways, that he shouldn't join stf's if he's just going to sit there.
I'm sure I got reported due to some poor choice of words, but oh well.
Made two new friends, who I'm going to help with their builds when they get back online.
Well, in retrospect I guess that it wasn't entirely my fault. My crowd-control may have been severely lacking, and this might have been why the optional failed, but it certainly wasn't me that caused the mass sphere/probe spawning.
As said in my earlier post, I was working on crowd control and healing - took a few shots at a generator but definitely didn't break the 10% rule .
Agreed. I actually find the Voy to be quite fun to play in Elite, as it allows me to do some real flying instead of sitting around, shooting off cannons all day. You just have to know your place in the grand scheme of things and when to fire off its awesome debuffs. However, your comment about making it a torp boat is interesting, as it gives me a valid excuse to start using tachyon beams again. I should give that a try since the DBB's just aren't fun to use at all. The question now is whether I should go for all Quants or all Photons.
Photons do better DPS as they reload faster and you can therefore fire off more of them.
I see this all the time in ISE Pugs.
The nodes blow and three rainbows take off to kill spheres without shooting the generator.
If everyone focuses on the generator right away and forgets the spheres until the gen is dead things work much better,
But that almost never happens in a PuG.
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It's interesting how that works. Someone with 0 DPS, Technicolor/rainbow beams or Skittle cannons, they die repeatedly, or set off in the distance 70K and they get all the drops. I haven't figured that one out yet. The only drops I ever get are lock boxes and the final drop.
Oh well, most of the stuff is useless anyhow other than maybe to sell on the exchange.
then it went from bad to worse.. a couple of times i did the Infected Space Elite and TWICE! completed the mission clicked on my drop box to collect my reward.. the box disapears annnnnd i recieved absolutely NOTHING! and some of those drops were pretty nice ones also.. so that also pretty peeved me off massively.
i am noticing since the last update to STF's the maps are increasingly getting buggy and glitchy and disconnects happen more often and so on and so forthe... so my weekly wednesday stf day yesterday was a total let down
i really wish Goza and the team would polish up the stfs and fix some of these regular irritating bugs etc before adding new missions to the line up as at the moment i really dont feel like playing em at the moment especially after yesterdays experience.
Well, entered CSE earlier - more for the experience than anything else. Subsequently discovered that I should stay out of Elite STF's
To be fair, there was a Vet present, who greeted everyone and checked if everyone knew what they were doing. I was the only one who replied - and since I am used to Normal STF's I advised that I am familiar with Cure Space, although not familiar with the Elite version. No-one else replied.
The Vet gave pointers, and sound advice, but it seemed pretty obvious that no-one else was paying attention. The Kang received a pounding in short order and the Vet had to park himself by the Kang, healing and holding off the increasing number of BOP's etc that were being ignored.
I attempted crowd control. And failed. After reappeared following respawn, Vet suggested that I concentrate on the generators. I did so. And failed. Again. As did the optional. And, unfortunately, at this one of the players bailed.
Anyway - by this time it was becoming obvious to both myself and the Vet that I wasn't really a great deal of help, especially since we were a player/team member down (though the Vet was kind enough not to say so, simply encouraging me to keep trying).
So try I did - and the term 'epic fail' would seem to apply; I unfortunately wound up snagged by two Borg tractorbeams, and despite throwing polarise hull, scramble sensors and PS, found myself on the receiving end of a one-minute timed respawn.
When finally reappeared was greeted with the sight of numerous Borg ships swarming the Kang - flew to assist. Fired off GW, FAW, and a torpedo spread but the Kang went boom and the demoralising 'mission failed' text appeared.
Vet gave some friendly advice - namely that we needed to improve our builds. He wasn't wrong, though I wanted to add that it would've helped if the other players had actually listened to the one person who knew what he was doing!
Though have posted some unfortunate STF experiences I've had, this one definitely qualifies as my worst. And I am not going to burden a team with my presense in an Elite STF again.