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After reading yesterdays Blog about how they plan on redoing ALL the fed patrols, i thought they had made a mistake.
I thought they forgot to add how they planned on making those patrols faction neutral, or making a few KDF patrols.
They never fixed the blog.
How do I read into that? I mean, if cryptic thinks that fixing all the fed patrols is more important than giving the KDF patrols, even when the kdf has hardly any content, how do I "get" that?
Even after Cryptic has said that they plan on doing some serious work on the kdf, looking at that move gives me the impression that it will not be coming.
Do they not want anyone playing the KDf when F2P arrives?
I thought they forgot to add how they planned on making those patrols faction neutral, or making a few KDF patrols.
They never fixed the blog.
How do I read into that? I mean, if cryptic thinks that fixing all the fed patrols is more important than giving the KDF patrols, even when the kdf has hardly any content, how do I "get" that?
Even after Cryptic has said that they plan on doing some serious work on the kdf, looking at that move gives me the impression that it will not be coming.
Do they not want anyone playing the KDf when F2P arrives?
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They most likely expect people to spend months on their Federation chars befor they ever venture to the "Create Klingon Char" button.
And yes I got the same impression you got from that blog and I did not actually surprise me.
*sarcasm* They just want to finish the Federation first
Yeah...you really have to wonder
Why?!
/sarcasm off
Coming from *once klingon only player which switched to blue*.
I've never wondered.
The Placation and supplication to the fedside has always been obviuos and often reinforced by the some of same fans who preach equality and acceptance from thier forked tonques, as evidently they can talk it but not live it when it comes to STO.
Then again that doesn't surprise me as I have often found the UFP to be a hypocritical entity founded by those whom wish to have a peaceful co-existance with others as long as we "others" follow thier rules.
Its simple really, what Humans had done to each other and some continue to still do in the future, with thier wars and petty self-concerned motivations to grasp power without th effort to attain it, is cease to do it to thier own kind and instead use as a backbone of thier desire to do it to the other races.
What? Your a warlike and Violent race created from a dangerous world that pushed the survival instinct to the limit? Well we can't have that, says Star Fleet and they will wage both a political and convential war (but thier not agressive- thiers is a peace keeping force) and play the Universes Police Force, telling all how they are doing "it" both wrong and how they should be doing it.
They are a meddlesome and irritating race of self indulgent peoples and I can only think Feds survive as a species becuase the Universe doesn't want them in the after life.
I can't blaim the Universe iether, I wouldn't want to pass into to STovokor to find they had arrived and changed it from feasting, fighting and fun to Anger managment courses, basket weaving and emotional inner bonding all while hidden behind a viel of socialism.
The truth is that all we can do is wait and see what happens and ignore such stupid dribble as, "we (Devs) can't justify the effort since Cstore sales are so low KDF side" or "Thier is not enough interest to justify it".
Of course thier is interest in the KDF - we just are not buying anything until we know there is a place for us.
So I wait.
If it doesn't happen I can always go elsewhere, assured that something will come along that has more respect for their customers other than whom has the largest wallet.
Largest wallet?? Funny never saw Cryptic as a size Queen until STO and I've followed them from way back in City Of Heroes.
C'mon Cryptic prove me wrong.
What the heck?
Patrol mission are the single most boring thing this game can inflict on you...
Any content is welcomed.
I've been resubbing every few months to see what we have content wise now.. I love the game but I refuse to pay to play the same mission over and over.. apart from the a couple of low level missions (which were good!) and the shared missions / weekly there has not been a great deal released to keep Klinks happy. I'm still waiting for the 40 day patch (after release) that was giving us all that content that was planned!!
I have also noticed that PvP is not viable now! trying to level up a new Klink and average queue is 40 minutes (so far not a single game started!!) :<
I do have a a few fed chars leveled up to max but klink is where my heart is.. just a shame they dont have anywhere near enough content to keep the most casual players happy :<
On a personal note I do enjoy the storyline missions we have and think they are of better caliber than even the feds.
Unfortuneately the damage has been done and we are a bitter untrusting lot now.
The ball is in Cryptic court to remove that bitterness.
I know the KDF lack PvE content.
I know the PvP Ques "Estimated Time" is a liar. Unless it was meant as Days/hours.
I would rather Kill Players, if there were any left...
What was I talking about again.......
Have you ever played the klingon side? there is little to no content for klingons, I was able to lvl my first klingon up to va on pvp alone but now thats even out of the question (ground pvp mind you)
You bet your sweet *** we do. I would be something to do!!!
Here is what KDF get to do on Holodeck....
Make toon.. do your starting run around First city stuff to learn your way around First City. Go to Khalass expanse.. Kill fed AI.. Also encounter zones fro True way, Romulan and Borg. Go to exploration zones.. which consists of the following missions..
Assult a base, Scan consoles in a base. Defend a base. Assult, scan consoles in, defend a ship.
Assult, scan consoles/items on a planet. Kill x domes on asteroids in space and thier defnders.. Kill x groups of ships in space. 10 basic mission with small variations in the exploration zones taht it there.
8 Story line missions. Borg DSE's Path of the Warrior missions, Devidian, Romulan, Breen story arcs. Undine missions. a friegter rescue/kill and the stalite repair mission. And then there is the PvP content which right now is just not done by many players due to the lack of interest. and once you drag your sorry butt up to level 45 there are STF's which as of yet must be done on Holodeck with faction pure teams. Oh yea we do have a 2 or 3 fleet action type things we can do.
Adding 2 or 3 KDF sector blocks of a totat of 6 to 9 sectors along with the current sectors with KDF territory in them could add an additional 50 missions easily for KDF players to do. Having the missions cycle up as redoable every 2-3 days with scalling enemies and rewards would more then double the actuall content availible for KDF, beside simply giving KDF player more to do. It might be grindy, but for we KDF players it would be a refeshing change of pace to actually get some damd content.
We need the PvE content just to get more players interested in KDF play. For the long term we need a multi sector Persistant Territorial combat.
Considering all the effort that is put into Bridge officers I still do not understand why there are no Multiplayer PvP maps where Captins go down WITH thier away teams to battle other Captains and THIER Away teams. It has never made sense to me from a story or canon viewpoint why we players are going into PvP combat without our Away teams of Bridge officers. This is not Elite Force.. We are ship captains.. why are we not doing ground combat with other ship captains and our crews..?
The game is about commanding a Starship and a crew.
There is so much "missed the boat, missed the point, never got the point" of a good and unique MMO mechanic that Cryptic has gotten so close to but never done in STO that are easily within the capabilities of the game engine. If you can go into an stf and have 5 players battling against wave after wave of Borg, then why cant you expand thos very same Ground actions to have Capatins with thier away teams doing the same thing? If you can put 100 characters both AI and players on the same map then give us our away teams we've invested so much time and energy in to fight by our side doing STF's.
One of the things I've seen during the F2P on Tribble is comments by Dev's that they want to really get players to concentrate on just one character. Seems to me that several opportunities have been missed to encourage that through game mechanics since launch.
But either way.. The topic is KDF content. So yea we'll take patrol missions KDF side and happily. Because we do not have them now, and never have. Any content KDF side would be an improvement.
With regard to the Doomsday mission, if you can make Feds into Klingons. Why not a couple of mission, to make Feds and Klingons into Cardassians and Romulans. Have a series of mission, where you are acting behind enemy lines for Starfleet or Klingon Imperial Intelligence. We get to play around with their ships and get to run around as if we were members of those factions. Would give players something new to play with. Plus we get immersed in the goings on in those factions as well.
*wistles and cheers* tell like it is my brutha!
So much for Season 4 being "The season of the Klingons" huh?
Just remember, they raised the starting level of the Klingons to give them time to more fully develop the Federation...Ahem, I mean the Empire...yeah...sure they are...
Nice that they change the crafting, making it more difficult, take away the 'Pengs (on tribble since the new crafting implemented) add Dilithium to it, then revamp the Fed patrols to give better rewards so the Feds won't be so dependent on crafting to get decent gear.
Yep...can't wait for Season 4 and all the new Klingon missions.
Wait, they said content, not missions...oh noes...
Sadly all we can do is wait and test evidently.
DOffs seem fine - they DOff quite well
New Ships, really enjoy them except for minor bugs
The KDF Academy, looks awesome kinda small though with no real purpose but thanks none the less.
Honor Guard costume pieces, look so cool it should have a fear bonus proc.
New KDF revival parity content - waitiing waiting waiting.....
It becomes a major Pay factor as the many ships will be C-Store only what will drive many many players away from us and into the arms of the blue side, which have much more stuff for free.
Additionally there is nothing on the horizon of the "massiv KDF revamp" that we we promised.
So sorry, but I have just lost my hope oon KODF AGAIN, we are just getting glorified monster play coupled with C-Store cash cow options.
When the game goes F2P and we get that huge influx of players that they (Cryptic) are expecting (praying for?), we will have enough KDF players to justify them actually making some dedicated KDF content.
Whats that you say?..........The new players can't play KDF side?...............Good point, thanks to Cryptic's clever planning, any player joining the game after F2P will have to spend considerable time (and money Cryptic hopes) levelling up a Federation character before they even get the chance to make a KDF character.
After getting attached to their Fed character, should some of these new F2Players remember there is (supposed to be) a KDF faction and want to try, they can then create their new character. At which stage they will find all the new ships are C-Store and they have barely a dozen missions to do before they run out of content.
Fast forward six months.......we find the KDF percentage of the population is still in single figures and Cryptic states that they are abandoning any future plans to develop KDF specific content due to lack of interest.
The future is indeed bright for the KDF.....bright red with blood spilled and anger.
Disagree with my vision of the (Cryptic) future? Then please prove me wrong Cryptic, please I beg you, prove me wrong!
Yeah, there are the dark days that I'm thinking as you. Regretably there have been no prove for more KDF only content, only warm words from Devs and modeaators and that since more then a year. I will only believe again if I get hard trustworthy evidence.
I remember when I used to be on my KDF non-stop before the nerfs came...launch was so fun for the KDF back then...but alas KDF is frowned upon... :mad:
I shall ever love the Empire and thier actions can not take that away.
Many fanclubs still do not play STO. Give the KDF life and that may change.
Fear not, that will change when F2P happens The Klingon Armada International Ship I'm on the IKV HoS'tam is already discussing this. We will be there just not right away, I give you my word as a Warrior!
As well as some members from Klingon Assault Group as well.
Qapla Batlh Je!
Marok
"Tickle us, do we not laugh? ***** us, do we not bleed? Wrong us, shall we not revenge?"
The honest truth ... Remember, they *are* planning to slow down progression so it is quite possible new players will spend at least weeks grinding away those lower Fed levels just to make it up to Klingon unlock.
I would, however, love to see a KDF version of those patrols.
Tell us how you feel! ... and completely agree.
BTW and off topic ... When will there be another "Gates of Sto'Vo'Kor" episode?
I would love to get your fanclub on Gates of Stovokor one day for a round table discussion about the KDF and STO in general.
I shall send you my email and Skype info.
We are a unpaid and fanlove driven podcast and as such, life throws us curve-balls.
The latest is that two of our guys are deep in school and do not have the time (one is the sound guy, the other is Wameh wej
We have had offers to have Xander from T.I.E. as a guest voice, Risa as a guest voice, Deyvid from trekradio, but we can always use more people.
I am frantically learning how to use Reaper and the studio sound equipment so I can record raw audio for episodes to be edited later and Soriediem and myself are writing up scripts for future shows as fast as we can.
Here is some ideas that we have in the works for future episodes;
"Why I executed my Cook over Baked Tribble" - finished and in final editing before recording
" Raid on Secret Federation Research Facility" - finished and in final editing before recording
"Out a KDF Intelligence Officer on your ship" - in process of being written
" Repurcusions " - a 4 part story line I am working on involving the Undine, Borg and the Grigari.
" An episode on the new KDF ships " in process of being written
" Honor and the Empire: what it means to walk the River of Blood" finished and waiting on recording
" Science, how its alive and well in the Empire " finished and waiting on recording
"The Arms Race and a look at federation versus Klingon technology." - in process of being written
"The KDF Academy, its place in our history" - process of being written
" Help Wounded Officer perform Hegh'bat " awaiting aproval (is a sensitive subject)
" Help Warrior regain Honor through Mauk-to 'Vor" awaiting aproval (is a sensitive subject)
and assorted KDF commercials like " The most Dangerous Klingon in the Universe " and "Stovodor Cigars and fine Tobbacco"
And Soriediem is working on ever more scripts.
Unfortunately its all for nothing with out the people to do the voices or the ability to record and edit in a timely fashion.
To be honest I didn't realize people even listened to GoS all that much and was shocked to learn we have fans. Thank you for your support! We are glad you enjoy it.
Soon is all I can say and that makes me feel dirty. ( and not in the fun way)
WOW! I feel like I've let you all down now.
I will be sending you an email as well with the info to join us when you have the time.
All excellent story ideas.
Gen. Hauk is a warrior who recently returned to the Empire after serving for a time in Starfleet.
He's glad to be home, and would love to help out in whatever way you might need.
More so, as your stories must continue to be told. ... They give balance against Starfleet propaganda!
I pinged Goatshark about this. With the new mission flow, patrol missions were odd ducks out, giving inferior rewards and many players unfamiliar with what they were couldn't distinguish them from the main storyline missions.
So, the patrol missions are simply having their numeric rewards boosted and being turned into found missions rather than missions that the game explicitly directs you too, basically as a way of reducing potential confusion for new players.
Awesome!
Sort of a "enter a sector block and some will pop-up" game device?
Or more like the Pi Canis missions?
When do we get to start testing the KDF revival content?
My guess is that it will be like the Pico rescue mission.
Your flying by the system, a little alert (distress call) pops up, and you have the option to accept or just keep flying onward toward other adventures.
Boy, not a very -noble- fed captain if somone begs you for help and you switch the comm system off and keep right on going. LOL
Currently they dont have the resources, the money, the people, or the time to to CREATE new content for the KDF. Once their revenue increases from going to F2P then they will have all those things.
(This of course assuming that they will make any money with most of their subscribers bailing come Dec. 20th)