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My captain is RA4. She's flying the same T2 escort I've been stuck in for the last week due to the DL drought and Pay to Play extortion pricing on ships. I can't get a T5 Excelsior, because it's 1,600 CP, and you gave me 1,200. I can't buy an in-game T5 escort because all the DL I couldn't spend on ships was eaten up from buying a pitiful few Mk VIII consoles and one Mk VIII weapon as I was struggling to get through CDR and CAPT space missions. And Quinn gave me 10K DL on rank up, which is only half of the "discounted" price of 21K for a level-appropriate ship.
I am facing RA enemies, stuck in an LTC ship with one CAPT weapon and LTC BOFF skills (which by the way I can't change, cause retraining is broken as well). So I cannot play the space segment of the game at all at this point without grinding DL or paying you cash money for the privilege of simply getting a ship, so I can fly around in a game that is literally in pieces on the floor at this point, in terms of basic mechanics. And that's not even counting the millions in DL I am going to have to grind to equip that ship with weapons, consoles, and other basic level-appropriate gear, before I can take it out of spacedock.
Oh yeah, and THEN I get to blow what little DL I have left on every other dang thing too, like training my BOFFs in useful skills at some point.
I am facing RA enemies, stuck in an LTC ship with one CAPT weapon and LTC BOFF skills (which by the way I can't change, cause retraining is broken as well). So I cannot play the space segment of the game at all at this point without grinding DL or paying you cash money for the privilege of simply getting a ship, so I can fly around in a game that is literally in pieces on the floor at this point, in terms of basic mechanics. And that's not even counting the millions in DL I am going to have to grind to equip that ship with weapons, consoles, and other basic level-appropriate gear, before I can take it out of spacedock.
Oh yeah, and THEN I get to blow what little DL I have left on every other dang thing too, like training my BOFFs in useful skills at some point.
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Everything seems more expensive in the store too? Or is that just me?
We were promised prices would not go up, we were promised we would get enough dilithium at each level to buy a ship... Just more BS by Cryptic.
I can't wait for Infinate Space. It's gotta be better then where this is heading...
There's a very easy way to alleviate your frustration - buy from the C-$tore. That's what they want. Look at the options you have: grind for DL to buy new gear and ship (which will take weeks/months), continue playing with outranked gear and ship and hope that the loot drop fairy smiles upon you until you earn enough DL to buy a new ship, or...buy from the C-$tore. Which is the quickest, easiest way to go?
THAT is what STO going F2P is. Despite all the rhetoric about their willingness to change things, nothing about the grind-or-pay dynamic will be different when F2P hits Holodeck because F2P's success hinges on it. The C-$tore is STO's Prime Directive now.
I don't know about you but the loot drop fairy hates my guts. Playing the Exchange like a Ferengi will be extremely important for those who can't or won't buy from the C-$tore. That's how I've gotten most of the gear my Capt. 3 has on Tribble right now. I'd still be using Mk IV stuff (or less) otherwise.
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I was agreeing with you, dude.
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Sometimes when you want to significantly change the mechanics of something you have to pull the whole thing apart then build it up again. Hopefully this is what Cryptic are doing because you are right, the mechanics are in pieces on the floor. Because of this issue I will probably only test to LC1 so I can learn the DOff system and try the Mirror Universe events. After that, I will wait for further updates to see what happens.
there is a way you can get a ship and get gear.
if your a beam phaser user, then you can do the dividian mission for a beam that will match your lvl.
and just replay to get more.
to get a torpedo thats somewhat good, you can do the doomsday mission.
witch also matches your level.
aka. start looking at the diffrent missions and see what gear matches your level and see if you can find gear that you can use and want that way.
by doing this i got my gear.
even tho i used the lt cmd. ship until i reached rear admiral and bought my soverigen.
This doesn't sound like a fun way to play for me.
Actually the Dividian beam doesn't match your lvl any more.
So. You charged through the build. Which wasn't complete. And now that they've updated the build to be a bit more complete, you don't want to try doing it again, so you're going to complain that they're ripping you off? This is a test server. When major changes and fixes roll out, sometimes you need to reroll. That's just how it goes.
As far as ships go thats just poor management on your part. I to bought some weapons at LTCOM and then realized at commander what was going on. So I pushed that LCCOM escort to its limits to admiral then bought a defiant captain escort. I was already VA when this came out and nothing was retroactive but that comes with the test.
No one is forcing you to play on tribble so you have no reason to complain about cstore test points.
I do agree that the dilithium scale was screwed up by the DEVs and that it should have been fully active at the begining of testing but it is what it is.
The DOFF system for the most part works and is very engaging.
Your an RA4 and you did not have your bridge officers trained before the patch? Really thats weak.
But that is part of testing, finding the choke holds and the possible player issues.
But again no one is forcing you to play tribble.
Yes but were beta testing it don't forget there would've been an alpha test and a closed beta test as well before we got our hands on this build, so I seriously cannot understand why this was never picked up during those tests.
Now that C-Store is in game, there are the Connie phasers, which DO level with you. But that ship has sailed quite a while back. I've given up entirely on space and will probably play nothing except the DOFF system until beta ends. At the moment my ship doesn't even have a shield on it, because I sold it to get commodities for resupply runs.
and remember to save scrap metal and newspapers for the war effort, buy bonds.
I think 'match your level' is getting confused here. They meant that you can redo missions like the Devidian and Doomsday to get rewards with the correct Mk to match your current level at the time of turning the mission in.
there are very few level matching items. but the Connie is cheap... like 380 c store points,which your stipend would more than pay for. Though you wouldn't at VA anyway... but for re-roll or even someone still at cmdr or captain, it'd be worth it.
Everything that is old is new is a quick mission once you have done it once and know the dialogue. You run it in ten minutes you just have to wait for the dumb replay timer after that but the mission its self does not take long but it is annoying to have to do it
You can simply walk away from the frustration and go back to whatever you were doing...
Wait for others to work out the bugs and play when it releases to Holodeck.
Simple...
Though there are bugs, don't forget this a beta test, it will have bugs, be missing things, etc. I agree the C-store prices seem to have gone up, but this is only the test server, so once everybody b*tches about the prices they may reduce them again. On top of that, once this goes to Holodeck, ships you already purchased for you existing characters/account will be available to your new characters as they are per account. So after this F2P gets released to holodeck, you should still be able to access your previously purchased ships once your character reaches the appropriate rank, usually RA. Also, if they do keep the prices the way they are, just wait for one of the sales they have. Question though, why are you buying ships on a test server? My understanding is this is all going to wiped out anyway and the characters won't transfer. Unless something has changed. I spent points on Doffs and new stuff I can't get on Holodeck yet. I don't need ships for costumes.
Also they NEVER promised enough dilithium to purchase a ship at level. They only stated you would get a "substantial" amount of dilitium at level and through grinding make up the difference. However, because this is a test, the dilithium system wasn't fully implemented and thus everybody fell short. And because of this and everybody whining about it, it appears(according to the blog) they have decided to not only still give you a "substantial" amount of dilithium at level but a token that "discounts" the cost of the ships. So that should make everyone happy.
I just got to LTC1, and I have 50 EC, 0 DL, 0 DLO, and 0 Lat. Looks like I'll be stuck with my starter ship for a while. Plus I think the last patch reset my monies (I had all 0's when I logged back in yesterday).
I haven't been on the forums much, but I have noticed the drops are VERY different. I only JUST got an armor drop at LT9 or so, and that was from completing a mission. And most of my BOffs still have standard issue shields and weapons.
It's only a test server, so I'm not bothered as much (as long as Holodeck isn't like this, and from what I've read, it won't be).
I've been testing since the start too. I bought the LTC ship. I didn't have enough to buy the Commander ship, so skipped it, big deal. 80k dilithium saved right there. Got to captain, got 90k more dilithium, so bought a captain ship (what was it, 150k or so? I had enough from skipping buying a ship at T3 anyway). Just got to RA yesterday, got the discount token, ship only cost 20k, maybe 30k (I wasnt paying attention), eitherway, I had enough to buy it.
SO parts of what you said are untrue, it was possible to buy ships after LTC, so long as you didnt waste your dilithium on consoles, weapons and such. Games easy enough you can get by on standard gear alone anyway
I'm still flying my T2 cruiser at Captain 6 because I chose to. I could have jumped into a Galaxy or whatever when I hit Captain, but decided my dilithium would be better spent on the ship I plan to use at max level (Sovereign), and later used to buy MK XI gear once I'm at VA.
If you want a sense of how it will play out on Holodeck, stop doing episodic missions now and stick only to explore, patrol and defend missions, along with the dailies. Those missions don't have inflated exp, which means you'd advance at a slower pace, and you'd be revisiting exploration dailies a lot more often, netting more dithium ore in the process.
I did the dividian mission at captain, and received a captain level phaser.
I did the dividian mission at admiral and received an admiral level phaser.
Perhaps what you meant to say is that the Retrofit Forward Phaser Bank does not autolevel with you anymore like it used to.