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This emergency patch was a nuance to me at first. Then I read the patch note's. THANK YOU for finally giving the Klingon's a way to get the Hargh'peng( I can finally spell that darn thing right).
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It's already started...multiple threads...especially since many Feds have just discovered the hard way that B'rels can fire torpedos while cloaked...:cool:
Bet ya they'll get "fixed" real quick...:rolleyes:
I'm surprised anyone still flies that damn thing...
Me too, as they are not modified by High Yeild, Torpedo Spread, or any of the skill points. Now if they added a RA/BG 500 point skill along side the Transphasic and Tricobalts.....
They are modified by torpedo projectiles I have them setup on a R-BoP where over a period of 15 seconds they do 15k damage, my thanks to cryptic for making these available because they are now a tactic where we can use the EBC in sorties and use it as an advantage and not just a nuisance. Right now unless cryptic changes them they are the only viable method of playing that ship with the cloak.
Bad news that they're bind on pickup.
I meant the fire-while-cloaked BoP. It hasn't been buffed, has it?
Aye, and considering how hard it is to get the mats on a Klingon due to Bots camping the spot that GMs do nothing about, gonna take a while to get one for my Lt. Gen.
It;s called the B'Rel and it's a T6 ship...
And no, it hasn't been "buffed"...but it sure got nerfed some time ago because the smallest, weakest ship we have is "OP"....roflol
At least now we have a reason to fly those coffins....
I know what it's called, thanks. I call it a fire-while-cloaked BoP because technically 1)that's what the B'Rel is, a Bird-of-Prey, and 2)that's what it's (theoretically) supposed to do. I was making an observation of surprise at the fact people use the damn thing because it's weak as hell. Then again, I don't PvP, so maybe the people using it as a Hargh'peng torpedo boat have the right idea. *shrug* Who knows.
And by the way, there is no T6. Yet.
Agreed. They had to sit down and work out how to give the Pengs to the KDF and this what they came back with: Craft it, Bind on Pick up.
Seriously?!
On second thought, maybe we shouldn't take a closer look our ships now. I would hate to have only one BOP per account, since that makes as much sense as a bound Peng that needs crafting.
Just my $0.02
It takes like a hour to max craftin so whats the problem. also the kdf doesn't have to do a mission over and over again to get them and the kdf has a ship that can fire them wile cloaked I think the kdf got the better deal. I say good job.
and a lot of EC as most KDF 'crafters' don't have a bank full of samples...
How ever I just checked and apparently the Hargh'pengs, even though they can be crafted, they are Bind on Pickup.. so, when you craft it.. it's that character's Hargh'peng.. and you can't trade it or sell it.. which means you can't just have 1 character as a crafter.. but every Klingon character you have that you want to have those Torps.. you have to also turn into a Crafter... :mad:
Meanwhile.. the Feds.. just have to do the mission, on the character they want the Hargh'peng torp, and they can get it. Doesn't require getting Materials, or Crafting Anything.. Just do a mission.. spend 10 -30Minutes at the level you want to get the torp at doing the mission.. and Poof.. there you go.. Sure that one isn't tradeable either, but it makes sense to be Bind on Pick up from a Mission, not Crafting..
And, in the patch notes, they are making it sound like it's eaiser for a klingon to get the Hargh'peng...
The Statement "I am upset" does not really explain how I feel about this. And "This is unfair" doesn't even BEGIN to explain how wrong this feels.
Dear Developers:
There are times where things are released in the game, and it either feels, or blaitently is directed towards Federation Dominance. If that is not your intent, Please, stop releasing content in ways that proves other wise. Because situations like this is just yet another reason to feel that the Development team for the game is biased towards the Klingon side of the game, and it Alienates the Klingon side of the game that sees things like this, and actually cares about things like this as a whole. Please, if your going to release things for the KDF, can you not release them in ways that makes the Federation side of the game seems more superior then it has already been designated. Why would I want to play a Klingon, at this point, when it's clearly eaiser to aquire things, such as this, by just doing a mission? Was it fear of Hargh'peng B'rel-R's? If so, then Fix the ability to Equip Multiple Hargh'Pengs, or Give them a Global Cooldown that makes sense. Doing things like this is not helping in any form or fashion. And sure I may be one player, with one Voice, and 4 Klingon Characters, and I don't speak for everyone with my opinions, things like this are starting to make me feel unwelcome on the KDF side of the game. I can only hope that this changes over time. As I love the Klingon side, despite alot of the smaller advantages the Federation side has to offer.
A disgruntled Klingon Player
@Kilawpilath
"You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please alll of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time."
I will point out that there are a number of diehard KDF players that will never be truely and completely happy no matter what the programers and Devs do. It is best to ignore them.
I farm a lot...just as an FYI...
All the map that you farm anomolies are set up the same, a cple on the Fed side have you coming in from a different side, but they still the same.
There are 12 spots that spawn data, 2 of then spawn more often, and all of them spawn in 2 minutes or less.
If you fly in circles around the area, skipping the ones that say "Explore unknown system" it really, really doesn't that long to gather data, its only a matter of a few hours of game time, not months.
I just don't get what all the complaining about "having to build crafting skill" is...I mean, you haven't tried crafting yet? Players can get some of the best gear at all levels that way and data drops all over...and you've never done it until now? Why not? It's been out for the Klingons for a while now...surely you haven't been ignoring the anomolies encountered?
*when I say "you" I mean the complaining players in general, not quoted poster*
Thank you Cryptic for giving us the Har'Peng torpedo....if I have to work a wee bit to get it, so be it.
Nothing is free....
I don't have any low level stuff to make mats.
Well, then fly into one of the low level exploration areas and farm some...anyone can do that...you don't have to be low level to farm low level mats...I do it all the time.
I more then expected there to be people that had no problem, on all of their Klingons, to have to Craft the Hargh'peng. Meanwhile, on the Federation side, all a fed has to do, is not spend any Materials, or Money, and just run a mission that will actually GIVE THEM Money, and they get the Torpedo as well.
Yeah.. that's an Equal amount of worth.. :rolleyes:
That's not really relevant to the criticism and feedback being given in this discussion.
The implementation here is bad. That's all. It's a poor decision.
Luckily it CAN be fixed. If the developers care to listen to the players.
If they were not bind on pick up. the Exchange would be flooded with them,and feds would never have to do the mission. I do agree with the fact that we should have a mission as well, but for a short term fix this will do for me.
In that same 1.5 hours, I can most likely outfit my entire federation ship with the multiple copies I need for a multi-peng build.
That's one of the real issues here. The time differential is not very fair. It's, as stated, poor implementation.
Most people offering solutions to the problem take that into account and that's why the solutions have all centered around keeping it klingon side, or account wide, or whatever. No one wants to flood the exchange. But players are unhappy that the time investment is clearly much less involved on the federation side.
It really starts to rankle when the development team consistently doesn't think through the details when making things on the KDF side.
I always get this horrible impression that the KDF is developed in the back of the office, in some half overrun cubical, on a TRS-80. And that's why things come out the way they do. The folks just don't want to get punished and assigned to the "klingon" computer.
The solution is to just make it BoE and not worry about it being tradeable, its so easy to get fedside that is not really worth making bind on pickup anyway. I've played with the thing and its nice, but I don't see whats so great about it honestly. Maybe not since hazard emitters clears the DoT anyway.
You know whats going to happen though, eventually the Devs will catch up and they'll assign an expensive skill (like 400 or 500 pts) to it and it'll become less common overnight. I haven't been using it at all in pvp though because it seems unsportsmanlike, and I'm the sort that doesn't enjoy a victory if its tainted by something like that.
Cheers
SD
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