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Any update on how KDF will get 'Pengs yet?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Klingon Discussion
Come on Cryptic, you could've easily worked them in as a mission reward elsewhere just as a stop gap to even things up by now. There are no excuses for not having done this. Just add it as one of the rewards for the early KDF missions already as a temporary measure until it's worked in "properly" so that we've got equal access. We know you can tweak rewards as the FE reruns prove.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Come on Cryptic, you could've easily worked them in as a mission reward elsewhere just as a stop gap to even things up by now. There are no excuses for not having done this. Just add it as one of the rewards for the early KDF missions already as a temporary measure until it's worked in "properly" so that we've got equal access. We know you can tweak rewards as the FE reruns prove.

    They were able to get the freighter thingy in, so I guess just adding the peng peng to one of the already existing missions can´t be that hard. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Ashur1 wrote:
    They were able to get the freighter thingy in, so I guess just adding the peng peng to one of the already existing missions can´t be that hard. :)

    I'd totally forgotten that. Yet another good reason.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Much like the Aenar BOFFs being made available through the new DOFF system, it seems like Pengas for Klingons is also off the table right now. Another in a long list of very unusual and confusing development decisions in this game's track record.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    not a thing, but we have more c-store items! YAY!!!:mad:

    who the hell wants a silly rock pet anyway, anyone else remember the rock pet gimmick back in.. what was it the early 80s? LOL
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    It always makes me wonder how shortsighted the Cryptic staff acts sometimes. Giving a klingon weapon to the federation but not to the klingons. Sigh! :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    What is a 'Peng?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    A Har´Pengh Torpedo. The new mission reward for the fed mission: The Doomsday Device
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Inquizitor wrote: »
    What is a 'Peng?

    I'm SO not going to say what I really want to... :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    superchum wrote: »
    Much like the Aenar BOFFs being made available through the new DOFF system, it seems like Pengas for Klingons is also off the table right now. Another in a long list of very unusual and confusing development decisions in this game's track record.

    Have they actually said it's off the table?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    you should literally be able to buy common versions of this weapon in the quronos ship yard, you should get them as a reward for completing all the bonus objectives in the sortie missions, and they should be craftable. it is a klingon weapon, it should be as easy to get ahold of them as buying photons. there should be green versions through the ranks for exploration and pvp badges for klingons only, the only way for fed players to get them should be that mission
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Have they actually said it's off the table?

    what you should ask is have that actually said it was, just look how long its taken them to supposidly get our game to the same level of feds as it was suppossed tobe unpon release but they ran out of time, im sure this games nearly been out 2 years, other game companys can update a game and create an expantion in that time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Sh1ngara wrote:
    what you should ask is have that actually said it was, just look how long its taken them to supposidly get our game to the same level of feds as it was suppossed tobe unpon release but they ran out of time, im sure this games nearly been out 2 years, other game companys can update a game and create an expantion in that time.

    They did mention that they planned to put it in last time there was a thread like this, though that's about all they mentioned. Nothing on how or when. And no justification as to why there isn't a stop gap like putting it as a reward for an existing mission (changing mission rewards must be pretty routine after the FE reruns) as has been suggested by my self and others. There hasn't even been an explaination for why one faction got a new weapon and another didn't. Considering the initial outrage over this, I'm suprised that at the very least we haven't heard something official, that is, something of substance official.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Come on Cryptic, you could've easily worked them in as a mission reward elsewhere just as a stop gap to even things up by now. There are no excuses for not having done this. Just add it as one of the rewards for the early KDF missions already as a temporary measure until it's worked in "properly" so that we've got equal access. We know you can tweak rewards as the FE reruns prove.

    I'd guess that they're saving it as a reward for when they do a Klingon version of the Doomsday mission.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    I'd guess that they're saving it as a reward for when they do a Klingon version of the Doomsday mission.

    We might see the actual Doomsday before a KDF Doomsday mission.....just saying.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    I'd guess that they're saving it as a reward for when they do a Klingon version of the Doomsday mission.

    Yeah, but they know how much work they have on their schedule, and not putting a "stop gap" measure in place just strikes me as thoughtless.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    We wont get pengs till they are not worth having anymore............
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The only way KDF is getting Pengs is if they get rid of the B'Rel-R. Not that the B'Rel R is worth anything but it would ruin immersion so that is not going to happen.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I really love this topic!!!! Cryptic stated that they would not introduce any item in to the game that would/could unbalance it. Yet from day one only one faction got access to the Har’Pengh Torpedo while the other did not.

    Well I guess the Har’Pengh is not that OP after all. It only has a 360 degree firing arc, and a secondary effect that damages the hull directly bypassing shields. Takes less skill points than any other torpedo weapon and just about every Fed player in PvP now uses it attesting to just how good it is. It’s been out now for all most two months and no nerf in sight nor word on giving it to the KDF. I can only imagine the outcry if this had been a KDF only weapon.

    This gives me an idea can the KDF get some new exclusive ship armor that will give 100% resistance to all torpedo weapons and their secondary effects?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The only way KDF is getting Pengs is if they get rid of the B'Rel-R. Not that the B'Rel R is worth anything but it would ruin immersion so that is not going to happen.

    Perhaps you could expand on this, becasue it doesn't make sense as is.

    The Devs have said that Klingons will get Har'Peng torpedoes at some point. I think the last word on it from a Dev is that they will be attached to a mission at some point, but they will likely appear first in the DOff system.

    Also, they aren't getting rid of the B'Rel. Heretic said that it is on the schedule to be adjusted much like carriers are now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Here's a thought, stop allowing the Feds to use them until the KDF can.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    *to the tune of Tom Petty's "It's good to be King"*

    Oh we'll get 'Pengs....
    when dogs grow wings...
    But I can't help if I...
    Still dream time to time...

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Come on Cryptic, you could've easily worked them in as a mission reward elsewhere just as a stop gap to even things up by now. There are no excuses for not having done this. Just add it as one of the rewards for the early KDF missions already as a temporary measure until it's worked in "properly" so that we've got equal access. We know you can tweak rewards as the FE reruns prove.

    Give the peng to Klingons? you gotta be kidding then the feds won't have their unfair advantage anymore that they can exploit like they do and they will start crying they are being mistreated and then Cryptic will give in and nerf something else on the Klingon side. face it we KDF are the red headed stepchildren of STO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    MinosOne wrote:
    Perhaps you could expand on this, becasue it doesn't make sense as is.

    The Devs have said that Klingons will get Har'Peng torpedoes at some point. I think the last word on it from a Dev is that they will be attached to a mission at some point, but they will likely appear first in the DOff system.

    Also, they aren't getting rid of the B'Rel. Heretic said that it is on the schedule to be adjusted much like carriers are now.

    I've posted on the idea of the B'rel being the sticking point for KDF 'pengs in another thread. It basicly goes like this:

    B'rel can fire torpedos without decloaking for more than a very short window.
    An all torpedo B'rel could divert all power to just Aux and Engines, thus being very agile and having max power for sci abilities.
    The Hargh'Peng's proc is capable of doing direct to hull damage to shielded targets.
    The ammount of 'pengs potentially loaded on a B'rel could far outstrip the hazard emitter capability of most ships it's likely to face, and with the ability to fire every three seconds, this would get... nasty.

    In short, an all Hargh'Peng weapons loadout on the B'rel would be game breaking. However, if Cryptic made the Hargh'Peng either unique, or gave it a global cooldown half of the individual cooldown like Tricobalts, you'd make it far more balanced and less spammable.

    These suggestions surface quite often, and yet we still get no word from Cryptic as to wether these changes will happen, are even being taken on board, or even getting read by the devs. It's a sad state of affairs, the general response on the topic seems to be along the lines of "shut up, you'll get them when you get them".
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    JosephG. wrote:
    Give the peng to Klingons? you gotta be kidding then the feds won't have their unfair advantage anymore that they can exploit like they do and they will start crying they are being mistreated and then Cryptic will give in and nerf something else on the Klingon side. face it we KDF are the red headed stepchildren of STO.

    Well, I think it all boils down to faction diversity. Maybe instead of asking for what the Federation has just because the Federation has it, you can think of your own, Klingon specific idea for a special weapon?

    Wasn't there some special torpedo that the Klingons developed?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    Well, I think it all boils down to faction diversity. Maybe instead of asking for what the Federation has just because the Federation has it, you can think of your own, Klingon specific idea for a special weapon?

    Wasn't there some special torpedo that the Klingons developed?

    Yeah... I think they called it a Har'peng or sumthin like that.

    Sorry, sorry I could not help it!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    Well, I think it all boils down to faction diversity. Maybe instead of asking for what the Federation has just because the Federation has it, you can think of your own, Klingon specific idea for a special weapon?

    Wasn't there some special torpedo that the Klingons developed?

    Yeah, the 'Pengs. :eek:

    I think the KDF (if the Feds have our 'Pengs) should get 'Genesis Torpedoes'... In addition to the same burst damage/HoT as the 'Pengs, we should also be able to use them to create new KDF content, via new planets to explore... LOL
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    piwright42 wrote: »
    Yeah... I think they called it a Har'peng or sumthin like that.

    Sorry, sorry I could not help it!

    LOL Snap! :D

    /10char
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    Well, I think it all boils down to faction diversity. Maybe instead of asking for what the Federation has just because the Federation has it, you can think of your own, Klingon specific idea for a special weapon?

    Wasn't there some special torpedo that the Klingons developed?
    Yeah, the 'Pengs. :eek:

    I think the KDF (if the Feds have our 'Pengs) should get 'Genesis Torpedoes'... In addition to the same burst damage/HoT as the 'Pengs, we should also be able to use them to create new KDF content, via new planets to explore... LOL

    I think GreatBriton got chocolate in Jermbot's peanut butter. Either way, and aside form my being a jackass earlier, I think these are good ideas that together provide a nice out for the Dev team.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Sobekeus wrote: »
    Here's a thought, stop allowing the Feds to use them until the KDF can.

    Okay, same for Carriers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Yeah, the 'Pengs. :eek:

    I think the KDF (if the Feds have our 'Pengs) should get 'Genesis Torpedoes'... In addition to the same burst damage/HoT as the 'Pengs, we should also be able to use them to create new KDF content, via new planets to explore... LOL

    Genesis Torpedoes, I like it! Now we just need a mechanic that balances better with B'Rels and we're in business!
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