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Anyone know if new bases will be added if the Klingons get more sectors available to them?
Will they be Drozana-like stations? Or places exclusive to the KDF?
Also, will the KDF be able to access the current exploration zones (IE: Rolor, B'tran, Khazan, et al)? And if so, what happens to the Exploration Zones surrounding Omega Leonis?
Will we eventually see the Klingon Empire expanding southwards as well?
Will they be Drozana-like stations? Or places exclusive to the KDF?
Also, will the KDF be able to access the current exploration zones (IE: Rolor, B'tran, Khazan, et al)? And if so, what happens to the Exploration Zones surrounding Omega Leonis?
Will we eventually see the Klingon Empire expanding southwards as well?
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I don't think they've addressed the Federation's exploration clusters either. I have no idea whether we will have access to them. Even if we do, I suspect we won't be able to take advantage of missions in there.
I think if this were the case then KDF can only access the Promenade and Exchange, and the Klingons and Federation have separate shipyards (Now located in the docking pylons, of course.
I think the Hfihar mining colony or the Treasure Trading Station might be another possiblility.
From the sounds of it, Klingons may have limited access to DS9 for an upcoming Featured Series, but it doesn't sound like we [Klingons] will be getting access beyond that. What level of access Klingons get is still being discussed.
I'd love to see 1 or 2 new ones spread out through the galaxy though. I dont know how they'd make that work either, since you'd have a kdf base or station in someone else's territory
They could probably put one in Pi Canis if they wanted to. Maybe put something near Romulan territory and have it as a staging area for the Klingon fleet. I agree that it would be difficult to make other Klingon bases though. Many of these sectors were designed for Federation gameplay.
Carriers are really large flagships intended for operations far away from Klingon space and have docking facilites for other ships so they can be serviced and resupplied.
http://www.subspacecommunique.com/content/2009/07/26/star-trek-online-shp-updates-klingon-voquv-class
So why not do exactly that?
Put an NPC carrier that is escorted by a bunch of NPC ships into a new section in the newly-opened sector blocks that is available to KDF players only.
Have the smaller ships patrol the area around the carrier where you can dock.
Use the existing interior for Klingon ships and place several NPC vendors and possibly Quest Givers throughout the interior.
Voil
We (the KDF) should seize and claim Empok Nor for our own, we will rechristen it yoDjuH'a' vo' 'Iw. It's very name will freeze the hearts of our enemies.
It would only require the alteration of one mission Fed-side (the Long Night, make it some other Cardassian Station left over from the Dominion War set in Zeta Adndromedae), the art assets are already in the game, and the upcoming revamp of DS9 for the next FE could benefit us as well.
We should also seize a former Reman base ala Frozen, a Romulan D'Deridex Cruiser buried in an asteroid, with fully functioning cloaking device, would make an excellent advanced operations base in either the Psi Velorum, or Iota Pavonis Sector blocks, and again, the art assets are already there.
Throw in the long-promised KDF version of Diplomacy, and we could even get our own version of the Diplomatic Transwarp accolades (to Ganalda, Empok Nor, & ~buried D'Deridex~ respectively).
And, because we'll be gaining access to all sectors but Sirius, we could even mount a campaign for our own Advanced Heavy Battle Cruiser Retrofit with Sector-Transwarp.
All this would be possible with relatively little investment from Cryptic, I think, at least, little investment compared to creating two brand new KDF Stations, with their own assets, layouts, etc..
I like those ideas. Especially the Empok Nor idea. Maybe they would consider doing something like that when they get around to the DS9 Fleet Action.
DS9 has Klingon Vendors setting up shop there and NPCs visiting. They probably could still visit the Promenade and Quark's.
Exchange/Bank might be accessible to them, but not Ops and as I said earlier, they might need to have separate shipyards.
Fine, make a better proposal.
I'm done.
There is a differenece between a big ship that can support a handful of ships with a whole lot of transports going back and forth between it and an actual base and the actual base itself.
Besides to be as powerful as a starbase it would have to be as tough in combat, which is nonsense.
But please if you, think this is an argument against it, I'd like to hear your counterproposal.
But having a carrier as a base doesn't work all the time.
I would think that those cloaked nausicain bases would work better in the more defended places
That's not going to happen. Cryptic will not take an iconic Federation location and hand it over to a minority of the player base.
That'd be cool though.
I'm all for currently faction unique abilities like diplomatic transwarp accolades being made available to all.
Yeah, make a KDF Excelsior, I think it's time.
Now THIS would be five different kinds of awesome.
Really? *double checks*
Oh, wow, okay, in that case good ideas all around.
Oookay, I'll then I shall say thanks but I'd also like to propose the use of an emote next time.
Sometimes irony is so ironic it's actually overlooked.
I assume you are referring to those asteroid bases we saw one of in Enterprise:"Fortunate Sun".
Well those obviously only work when there are asteroids around so what do you do when you don't have those available?
You'd still have to bring in ships and personnell to actually build the base.
In case of the Nausicaans that means doing so without cloak.
When you put them away from the shipping lines like on "Enterprise" you might pull it off but doing so after an area of space is crawling with police forces would be very tricky.
One of the pieces of info that are the reason why I linked to the site was the the Klingon carriers actually have a cloaking device.
Appearently it is one that does not work in any kind of combat environment so I'd like to call it a "strategic cloak".
So you could get the carrier in place along with an entire fleet without being detected.
And unlike an asteroid base it would be mobile.
Meaning when you're detected you're not stuck and have to adopt a bunker mentality, which according to the "IKS Gorkon" Novel series, the Klingons dislike anyway.
And if you find you have found a godd place you can still consider building a base there, with teh carrier (or carriers) being the provisional beachhead into enemy space.
And regular supply line from Ganalda to the forward carrier bases would make it possible to reverse the transport raid situation we have now and have Starfleet engage those as well (and allow KDf warriors to defend them when that option becomes available).
It would give a far greater feeling of an actual war going on.:)
But I really love Katic's idea too.
It has flavour and possibly some cool missions too (I meaning kicking the True Way out is a great idea) and since this game is instanced it is easily done without disrupting the Federation side if things.
Very easily. I don't think the KDF would have much trouble kicking out the True Way
Lol
Mr Dee, this game full of asteroids.
*giggles*
Great ideas! Especially the bit about Empok Nor.
Well as far as I know there will be a featured series including DS9, so most likley they will give us access then.....
IF KDF gets access to DS9 it will be as "guests", why should they get an own shipyard? Also, programming a second shipyard is unnecessary more work to do that can be spend on more usefull things...
Nice Idea (although I prefer the Idea of Carriers as mobile outposts from Dees posts that I was to lazy to quote); still I'd prefer access to Ds9, its an Iconic place where eberybody should have access to, and it is an important social hub for RP.
Um.. Empok Nor is Terok Nors (DS9s) sister Station, same design, different actual Station. The Feds would still have DS9 proper, the KDF would get a mirror, taken (by force, preferably) from the True Way.
In fact, wouldn't it be cool if we got to see the entire process of the KDF seizing Empok Nor?
First, we get a new raid mission, where we attack & destroy True Way & Rogue Dominion Patrols.
Then, we get a defense mission, setting up a sensor net and automatic defenses for the requisite satellites to form a path for our forces to move through to Empok Nor. (A daily could be introduced afterward along the lines of the Traelus system Satellite Repair.)
Then, the invasion of Empok Nor itself, we lay siege to the barely operational station, invade it's labyrinthine halls, and force the True Way & their Alpha Jem'Hadar allies to surrender, die, or, surrender then die, their choice.
Then, we get the rarest of the rares, a KDF non-combat mission.
Each stage should be a week-long event, much like the FEs, it will help the KDF gain population, and can be replayed via mission replay once it's over for grinding XP. It should not come with gear rewards, as that will end up tempting the Devs to make it Faction Neutral somehow. (Don't put it past them, they'll do it!)
After all of them have completed, the KDF gains permanent access to yoDjuH'a' vo' 'Iw as their primary base of operations in the Alpha Trianguli System Block.
Litvok Nor for example, it was located in the Alioth system, the area was ceased in 2378 by a joint Federation-Klingon-Romulan task force. So the KDF has knowledge of its existence. It's also located near the badlands according to Memory Beta (though it also says close to the Briar Patch but novels never really took into account galactic structure*). It would be a simple task to take the station, it would be located close to Deferi space, so an eventual transwarp would allow for quick access to dailys.
*That is of course assuming that STO has as well.
That sounds like a plan to me.... but then again it's something that would only benefit us so I doubt highly it would be undertaken and taken seriously by devs.... but that's just me.
I love this. Any devs lurking out there should really take a look at this.
1. reason: Stahl has stated that adding Romulans and Cardassians are long-term goals. While this station might be in True Way hands - or in time other hostile hands - I believe it might be reserved for the Cardassian faction or missions given to the Cardassian faction if or when they arrive.
2. reason: It is highly unlikely the Klingon Empire would be able to snatch it away that far into hostile space. Not only would they have to pass by the Federation fleets and to some degree Federation space, they would have to have the manpower to conquer it from a probably well-fortified enemy, the example being True way.. Not to mention Mirror Universe opposition and the Cardassian military which also exists. If I remember correctly one mission states that the True Way is still outnumbered and out-powered by the Cardassian navy under the control of the Deteppa council (If I remember the dialogue it states the True Way to be about 1/4 the size of the loyal Cardassian fleet). Sadly I can't remember exactly which mission... Would be much obliged if someone found it.
I very much doubt we get stations deep into enemy territories. And even if we did, they would have to be hidden, so as not to be overwhelmed. Say in a Nebula somewhere or something..
And once taken over, regular patrols of the system to root out any True Way spies or stragglers, worth XP and level appropriate badges