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So I was just looking through the c-store, i've got 88 tokens or c-points - whatever they are now and decided to stroll through the items and noticed the Vorcha ship costume. So my curiousity about current Vorcha skins arose and a small bit of rage started to swell from within, because thast means that...
A.) The Vorcha already has 3 skins like all Fed ships, which makes it unfair for BoP users, which even though I would've still been upset, I wouldn't have been as mad.
B.) The Vorcha only has 2 skins like the BoP and is being charged for a third, where Feds have all three.
So i bought a Vorcha, went to the ship tailor and noticed only 2 skins...
Now, I hate being a conspiricist, I despise them. But Devs, how can you not expect KDF players to accuse you of not only underdeveloping their faction but even favor one player base over the other? If there's a reasonable explaination to this then I will shut my mouth right after I apologize, but I think it's completely unfair that the Klingon player base has to pay for a third sjhip costume that should have been added in the first place.
Some of these players play only KDF side, they pay as much money as fed players do and it's completely unfair that they can't even get something as small as a ship costume for free.
Yeah, I know... Ship costumes, big deal, right? It wouldn't be a big deal to me if it didn't appear that the KDF were being robbed moreso than their Fed coutnerparts.
A.) The Vorcha already has 3 skins like all Fed ships, which makes it unfair for BoP users, which even though I would've still been upset, I wouldn't have been as mad.
B.) The Vorcha only has 2 skins like the BoP and is being charged for a third, where Feds have all three.
So i bought a Vorcha, went to the ship tailor and noticed only 2 skins...
Now, I hate being a conspiricist, I despise them. But Devs, how can you not expect KDF players to accuse you of not only underdeveloping their faction but even favor one player base over the other? If there's a reasonable explaination to this then I will shut my mouth right after I apologize, but I think it's completely unfair that the Klingon player base has to pay for a third sjhip costume that should have been added in the first place.
Some of these players play only KDF side, they pay as much money as fed players do and it's completely unfair that they can't even get something as small as a ship costume for free.
Yeah, I know... Ship costumes, big deal, right? It wouldn't be a big deal to me if it didn't appear that the KDF were being robbed moreso than their Fed coutnerparts.
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BLASPHEMY!
Also the C-store skin can be used on the tier 4 as well as the tier 5 version.
Is it a let down considering most fed ships have three by defult; Yes
Is there anything we can do about it; Yes not buy the skin.
Is that likely to get us more skins free or otherwise in the future; Its anyones guess really, but if little interst is shown in the one skin they gave us how likely is it we'll really get more.
Surely this is a over-sight?
Hahaha, your guy's sarcasm has been noted.
Now I feel ridiculous :-S (they don't have an emote with the swirly lips so this will have to suffice).
Apparently with Season 4 we're getting a Qo'Nos revamp along with a bunch of other things.There was a picture posted on the main forums with the Gorn wearing a new helmet (not sure why we need helmets, or if any KDF players asked for them). But we all heard this with Season 2 though right? That was going to be a huge KDF update and we just got like 8 PvE episodes for that season and that's pretty much it.
Personally, I don't think KDF players are being listened to. I think they know we want more content and cosmetic stuff, but they haven't been adding anything that's been asked specifically like the weapons you mention or the trench coats that's already in game. It's like they just add random things as a cheap and easy way to shut us up.
I think the KDF either needs to get a massive patch, with NO Fed work done in the time, or the KDF needs to be rid of period.
I'd prefer the former as I play KDF but the things they have been adding (again, other than PvE stuff) is a joke that nobody requested. At the rate we're going and if we can trust Dstahl's words, the Romulan faction wont come for a looooong time given that he said they wont be worked on until the KDF feels more fleshed out, which at this rate isn't going to happen for at least another year or two, hell, I'd even say three.
Wholeheartedly agreed
I'd like to have more customization options for my Klingon or Naussican.
It suprises no KDF player that we are not treated the same as our Federation players which really makes no sense whatsoever.
Anything wrong with equality for all players regardless of Faction?????
*A Dev walking past this thread* "I thought I heard something......."
"Nah....must be the wind"
Ah, but "feels more fleshed out" to whom? Do you really think they'll put the Romulan faction off until the KDF is equal to the Feds? It's the lack of specifics that makes me suspicious. I believe they said what we wanted to hear, but we didn't hear what they said. I suspect Season 4 will be the devs saying "the KDF faction is fleshed out enough to us", and that it will be the last major KDF-only content update. Anything else the KDF gets will be shared content.
It would be nice to be wrong about that, though.
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Do you have six fingers on your right hand?
in general,
I believe the principles of Revenue Stream theory are against us when it comes to equality of the factions.
After the feds have a counter to every faction unique aspect of the game, have enough fluff to satisfy thier everchanging whims, have securely convinced the Devs to end the war and force the KDF into the federation and have seen to it that the weeklies exist for the non-fed factions as a mere-side thought of design.
When the feds have finally gotten the game to be what they wanted in opposition of anybody elses vision, then maybe they will see the error of thier convictions.
Zordar is most likely right though and the "we are fully fleshed" statement may come sooner than we would like.
All we must achieve as Klingons is not let them do it with ease or without conflict, in the hopes that we will be vindicated and brought a chair at the table instead of be regulated to the servants qaurters.
Unfortunately, that is what a lot of us KDF players are afraid of. What's to keep Cryptic from saying "the Klingons are done...let's bring out the Romulans"? They are planning (last time I checked) to bring out a third faction around the end of the year.
Dan is trying to flesh out the KDF more before this happens, but if they do plan on going live with the "green" faction before year-end, either we'll get the shaft (again) or there'll be a large amount of Klingon love in the next several months. I'm hoping for the latter, but expecting the former.
We've been told time and time again that we'll get a major patch. We were supposed to get it in the 45-day patch. We got squat. We were supposed to get it with the release of Season Two. We got 8 measly (albeit awesome) episodes. We are told that Season Four will be the one. I'll believe it when I see it.
Cryptic's track record speaks for itself.
no joking, tons of kdf players showed there feelings by stopping the subs and look what happened, cryptic used it as an excuse with the 12% as to why feds get more time so ha unless we walk upto someone at cryptic and staple a letter of greivence to there forhead they arnt going to take any notice. whats that saying cant see the woods for the trees comes to mind.
and there living in fantasy land if they think foundry missions is going to flesh out kdf. if thats there idea that should make it so kdf players who delete every fed char on there account or new players that only play kdf with the new tutorial coming in get play for free.
short answer when it comes to cryptic is this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ short term dreams
What makes you think that they'll get the same treatment? For all we know, the Rommies (and any future factions, for that matter) could be treated WORSE.
I got some news for that guy, i Aint dead yet; my disruptor pistols are charged and my Bat'leth sharpened bring it on feds!
Fixed it for ya!:D
They are already scraping the barrel here.....how much worse can it be?Anything worse would be digging a hole to China......and actually getting there!
And in response, I have said repeatedly that it's a bogus statement.
There is nothing to get people to play KDF right now. Those who do just show how much they adore the idea of being KDF. No one plays this side, so why make more for it, right? Well, no one plays this side because there is nothing being made for it.
It's simple really, but sadly too many people don't think it out. I guess the % of vulcan players is lower than the KDF, because I see no logic being used here.
When that update is worthy, let's all hope it is, I want to see the increase in the number of KDF players. I want them to tell us how many defected when there was actually something more on this side. Sadly, they won't admit it. It's easier to just focus on Fed's. They don't have to think much that way, just watch some old re-runs and get a new idea to make some money from the Feds. If they had to actually make something from their own creativity, like they would for most of the KDF stuff, they'd melt down and explode.
That may be a mean thing to say...but I ain't taking it back.
At the least though, its moving in the right direction, a direction that started with the 8 missions we got in season 2.
There has to be much much more PvE content than now to keep the players levelling their KDF toons.
8 missions are laughable.
The thing is:
I just level my 3rd KDF toon and I hit the Brigardier General lvl yesterday with a playtime of 1 day 16 hours.
The toon was levelled ONLY via cluster missions and dailies. Why only PvE you ask?
Because it is IMPOSSIBLE to join PvP at lower levels at klingon side cause no one is ever playing.
So what is left there? The 3rd featured series my toon finished at Lt. Cmdr 3 level. So what is left?? Starcluster, starcluster starcluster and daily in deferi and eta eridani space.
I levelled this toon to have an engineer KDF for endgame STF´s and PvP and I really want this toon badly.
But it is a fact that this one day and 16hours was a mindless boring unentertaining grind with NO fun at all. At all !
So I can imagine if there is not MUCH more PvE fun content missions the KDF faction will not gain more people playing cause most people will be ****ed off big time before they even hit CMDR level.
Unfortunately.
There would be a solution to this dilemma so Cryptic pay attention.
FOR EVERY FOUNDRY MISSION YOU PLAY, DEPENDING ON THE RATING THE PLAYER GETS XP POINTS.
Would probably be easy to implement and the only way the KDF faction will grow in the future.
My 2 cents.
I fully agree foundry mission should get some exp. based apron length and difficulty so to cut down on the abuse
I hear you!!
Qa'Pla!
Keep the good fight going.