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Black-and-white TOS-style Type 2 Phaser - complaint!

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Greetings community, greetings Cryptics,

i try to keep it short and simple adored Cryptics -- every item ppl buy from the c-store should have very rare ( the absolute minimum should be rare ) quality. I want to create a retro-crew with the whole TOS equipment. The retro beam arrays from the c-store TOS Constitution with their rare quality are marginal but the "Black-and-white TOS-style Type 2 Phasers" are unacceptable as "common" ( white ) items. It was the same with the c-store weapon pack, just uncommon items is too bad.

So pls Cryptics .. rework these items to a better quality.

Best regards,
Maledicus.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the [URL=" http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?f=70&a=2"]Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines[/URL] GMMeeko
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Personally, so long as an equal weapon in power is easily available for free I don't care. All that's changing here is the skin and method of obtaining it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This is done deliberately so people cannot complain about "people who spend money get the best gear". Trust me when I say it is much better this way. You have NO IDEA the kind of whining that would ensue. It would make the current connie nightmare look like a tribble in comparison.

    I do understand this .. really .. but very rare items are easy to obtain in STO at any level. You can get purple weapons via R&D in low level as you can get them in high-level. You can get them via marks and emblems. Very rare items are nothing special in STO .. you don't need a group, a raid, everyone can obtain them by playing solo.

    If i'm willing to pay extra cash i don't await getting a common ( white ) item. I don't want them to be better than any other rare or very rare weapon. But common without any extra stats on them .. no sorry this is just bad.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ezhno wrote: »
    so long as an equal weapon in power is easily available for free I don't care.

    All items are easily available in STO, only the Borg-Set and few Kits that drop from Bosses in the STFs require a team.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Maledicus wrote:
    Greetings community, greetings Cryptics,

    i try to keep it short and simple adored Cryptics -- every item ppl buy from the c-store should have very rare ( the absolute minimum should be rare ) quality. I want to create a retro-crew with the whole TOS equipment. The retro beam arrays from the c-store TOS Constitution with their rare quality are marginal but the "Black-and-white TOS-style Type 2 Phasers" are unacceptable as "common" ( white ) items. It was the same with the c-store weapon pack, just uncommon items is too bad.

    So pls Cryptics .. rework these items to a better quality.

    Best regards,
    Maledicus.

    I disagree on the rare, but I'd like to see uncommon - the melee weapons were so why not the phasers?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ...that is why we need better CRAFTING.

    let me use that C-Store visual and let me put the stats of another similar type of weapon on it so i can make it a Rare weapon with all the shiny visuals i want, without any ballance issues.

    You want to refit old Ships?
    I want to refit my Gunz!

    Or even better, let me take ANY visual and let me put the stats behind it that i like by upgrading it per Crafting or otherwise.
    No reason to get rid of what we allready have.


    But i agree, having awesome looking Replicas of Weapons with bad stats is a situation that can't be accepted, and we better speak out against it NOW before they get to the TNG Weapons that i realy want :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Maledicus wrote:
    I do understand this .. really .. but very rare items are easy to obtain in STO at any level. You can get purple weapons via R&D in low level as you can get them in high-level. You can get them via marks and emblems. Very rare items are nothing special in STO .. you don't need a group, a raid, everyone can obtain them by playing solo.

    If i'm willing to pay extra cash i don't await getting a common ( white ) item. I don't want them to be better than any other rare or very rare weapon. But common without any extra stats on them .. no sorry this is just bad.

    Yes, but people would argue that you can INSTANTLY get highest-tier items in the game by spending money rather than have to go earn it through ingame means. The argument of "better by cash" would still have a lot of weight.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    you know the funny thing is alot of poeple say that the weapons don't level up with you but thats cause alot of poeple buy these as va and don't bother trying them out as lower levels like LT and such but i can clearly vouch that the weapons you buy from the c-store that say they level up with you do just that the stats don't change each grade but each rank ie lt -lt commander and so forth

    oh and as for the complaint for said weapon mentioned there is a easy sloution go finish the mission to get the blue one that i might add is not one per toon so you can keep doing the mission and deck your toons out either fed or kling
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This is done deliberately so people cannot complain about "people who spend money get the best gear". Trust me when I say it is much better this way. You have NO IDEA the kind of whining that would ensue. It would make the current connie nightmare look like a tribble in comparison.

    This wouldn't matter if Cryptic ignored their forums like Bioware does.

    Makes it easier on the devs that way.

    Let them release the game they want to release, play it or don't.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Maledicus wrote:
    Greetings community, greetings Cryptics,

    i try to keep it short and simple adored Cryptics -- every item ppl buy from the c-store should have very rare ( the absolute minimum should be rare ) quality. I want to create a retro-crew with the whole TOS equipment. The retro beam arrays from the c-store TOS Constitution with their rare quality are marginal but the "Black-and-white TOS-style Type 2 Phasers" are unacceptable as "common" ( white ) items. It was the same with the c-store weapon pack, just uncommon items is too bad.

    So pls Cryptics .. rework these items to a better quality.

    Best regards,
    Maledicus.

    I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle.

    The TOS Phasers in the pack are not meant to be anything more than starter gear. It's a courtesy to you the player so you can start your crew out with TOS Weapons instead of having to wait until Lt 6 when you can finally do the Devidian missions to obtain the better TOS Phasers there.

    I was happy with what I got, and had no issue with them being Common items, as they will soon be replaced.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    How about this for an idea it would take some work on the part of the dev’s but might be kinda fun and be able to be used on other items. A craftable item mods. the idea is that you can craft a mod that you use on a item that will bump it to the next color tier bonus stats and if you keep adding more you can get all the way to purple. This isn't so useful for anything but max level gear or leveling items admittedly but it could an alternative way of doing things as well in crafting. Rather then making an item from scratch you could also take a white green or blue and bring it up as far as you want.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If I pay money for something I want it to be of purple quality - so long as there is a free weapon or craft-able weapon also purple with equal damage.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The only thing about the phaser is that it's inferior to an almost identical free version in the devidian missions. I'd rather it be different in ways other then 1 dps lower than the free version.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Beraht wrote:
    The only thing about the phaser is that it's inferior to an almost identical free version in the devidian missions. I'd rather it be different in ways other then 1 dps lower than the free version.
    It's a leveling item, the Devidian reward is Mk crippled (obviously to make the C-Store one appear to have some "value").
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The TOS Phasers in the pack are not meant to be anything more than starter gear. It's a courtesy to you the player so you can start your crew out with TOS Weapons instead of having to wait until Lt 6 when you can finally do the Devidian missions to obtain the better TOS Phasers there.
    The icon is blue, but that's the only way in which the Devidian reward is nominally "better." Unlike most green and blue gear, the Fed phaser weapons don't have any actual mods for their quality level. The Fed Type 3 rifle has a custom special attack, but that's it. At VA1 the damage between the two Type 2 phasers is exactly the same, except for a whopping 0.2 DPS advantage to the blue one on the stun beam attack. And since the Devidian ones don't level with you, they're pretty uselss other than for slapping on one BOFF for a couple levels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The TOS Phasers in the pack are not meant to be anything more than starter gear.

    That's one possible point of view .. mine is different from yours. These special phasers level with you and they are unique in their look. So i expect them to be usefull also in high-level.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    david26th wrote: »
    I disagree on the rare, but I'd like to see uncommon - the melee weapons were so why not the phasers?

    To hand out uncommcon melee weapons as a c-store purchase was also a bad idea.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yes, but people would argue that you can INSTANTLY get highest-tier items in the game by spending money rather than have to go earn it through ingame means. The argument of "better by cash" would still have a lot of weight.

    To me the "better by cash" argument doesn't apply to this, because anyone is able to obtain weapons that are equal in their power easily. Better by cash to me is an issue if you can only buy an item with more power than any other item ppl can obtain by ingame means.

    That ppl who buy something in the ingame store of any MMORPG out there get something instant by paying for it and others who are not willing to pay have to play/grind for it is the spirit and purpose of a shop like the c-store. But it is important to note, that also ppl who grind for the items are able to obtain something as powerfull as the store item.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Maledicus wrote:
    To hand out uncommcon melee weapons as a c-store purchase was also a bad idea.

    How so, exactly? What is handing out uncommon items breaking? If people would rather spend money on a set of skins for barely useful uncommon weapons, why is that bad? Frankly you at least get a free uncommon weapon from Coliseum, plus you get all sorts of other stuff, not to mention how fun it is as well...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Jexsam wrote: »
    How so, exactly? What is handing out uncommon items breaking? If people would rather spend money on a set of skins for barely useful uncommon weapons, why is that bad? Frankly you at least get a free uncommon weapon from Coliseum, plus you get all sorts of other stuff, not to mention how fun it is as well...

    Maybe there is a misunderstanding?! It is bad to hand out uncommon weapons to ppl who pay for c-store items, these items should be very rare in my opinion.
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