D'KYR don't buy... DREADNAUGHT don't buy... the various ADDITIONAL SHIP SKINS don't buy... lets see... why not just say STAY OUT OF THE CSTORE?!
LMAO if people want to waste their money at worst or get new content/fluff at best than isn't that THEIR business? What good will it do to rant about the 'evils' of a marketing scheme that has been used in VARIOUS MMO's over the years? I seriously doubt that NOT buying the D'KYR or the new ANDORIAN SHIP will send any kind of message other than that this particular person doesn't like vulcan ships :P
It doesn't scale, just like I presume the retrofits don't scale.
I could consider the Delta Flier... it improves as you level. Not the D'Kyr, not the Retrofits.
Cryptic wants you to put down money for an item it will INTENTIONALLY make obsolete within a relatively short time span.
Granted, you can go and slog through and get it the "natural" way... but really... I think Cash is more valuable than that.
If Cryptic is going to sell you items for real cash, they should sell you items that scale with your character. Simple as that.
Umm considering it's a Tier 5 refit - and Tier 5 is the max ship level in the game atm; what? You want it to scale DOWN? (Sorry your OP makes zero sense)
It doesn't scale, just like I presume the retrofits don't scale.
I could consider the Delta Flier... it improves as you level. Not the D'Kyr, not the Retrofits.
Guess I shouldn't have bought my T5 Excelsior then since that doesn't scale. Oh wait, I'm a VA, it can only be flown by a VA, can't go higher there is no more scaling. POINTLESS Thread!!!
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others shouldn't like it or try it to find out.
D kyr is a blast
Like I said in other threads about the Dkye its one of only 3 ships that can do a special power combo..
Grav well 3 and EWP together will trap a whole arena team. It veryfun when you are facing a premade and your pugs falling on its face you can just run around gathering huge numbers in DPS with this combo and changes the whole battle field scenario.
If you launch he shuttle in the middle of a tact team, 80% of the time it will start a extend shield. This ship can also be built to be a great healer or tank.
My only complaint is that the shuttle needs a buff in HP and shields. Also I think it should imitate the playable shuttle as well and get a torpedo launcher. I mean why not? All the people who bought this complained about the shuttle longevity and the huge CD time. I would sacrifice CD if the thing could live longer than 5 sec in some case in pvp. The shuttle needs a buff in some way we all know that.
Let's see, they've already confirmed plans on making it possible to upgrade ships to higher tier. They've confirmed a future update to Fleet Admiral allowing us a space team similar to away team.
...Not a peep about tier 6
Not much point to this thread is there?
Personally I've bought every ship they've put out (I'm one of those who likes to collect things) and while I won't be actively using the D'Kyr for my main science officer, it certainly has potential and a 'cool' factor. It's a great addition to tier 5 and a great addition for the RPs.
As far as I know, the TOS Connie is the ONLY starship class that comes with upgradable equipment from the C-Store. All other ships come with, to quote STO Wiki, "standard weapons and equipment available at the ship's minimum rank". That includes all refit ships available at Tier 5, the Galaxy X, the Tier 3 Excelsior and Nebula, and even the NX Enterprise. In fact, the NX Enterprise appears to come with STANDARD ISSUE equipment. Everything is more powerful than that.
The TOS Connie comes with Phasers that upgrade as you level because they're special Phasers. They have a blue graphic instead of a red one, to match the original TOS Phaser effect, and sound effects to match. If they did not level, you would be forced to replace them, thereby losing the special cosmetic appearance of the beams. However, the other equipment on the TOS Connie is Standard Issue, and will need to be replaced if you wish to upgrade it any at all.
IMHO, the reason the Shuttle equipment upgrades is so you don't have to keep devoting money and effort at each level keeping your Shuttle stocked with equipment, along with your main ship. You can use the scaliing equipment the Shuttle has, and save your upgrades for your ship. But I've found in many cases I get better results by going ahead and using the proper Mk equipment for my level. The upgrading Shuttle equipment is basically just a backup, so you can always use your Shuttle for the special missions that use it.
I will point out this is the way ALL ships and shuttles in this game work, even those not bought from the C-store. Every shuttle you buy comes with weapons that automatically upgrade as you level. Every ship you either buy or get for free at a level comes with whatever is appropriate for your rank. As you level, you will want to find better and better equipment to outfit your ship. Stuff the automatically upgrades would not be as good, and would take away some of the variety and customization of your ship besides.
In other words, even if there were upgradable ship equipment available, you probably wouldn't use it. You might buy it for emergencies, like I said, or for those spots in the levelling curve where they would be better than what you have, but you should be trying to get blue and purple equipment that is even better.
Also, I'm pretty sure that even though the D'kyr doesn't come with scaling weapons, its shuttle does, and even if it doesn't, I know you can buy those special Shuttle Plasma beams for it at Starbase 39.
I would never actually consider buying this ship for my main VA science char for the main reason that she has all the ingame loot she would ever need ( e.g full aegis/borg/purples for several different builds etc )
So using her to farm emblems/marks to buy the vulcan ship is the only thing in the game she actually 'needs' to do anyway!
Endgame ships are meh when their isnt much left to do with them anymore, give me another 10 levels cryptic and ill straight up buy the vulcan ship so i can level in it for 'fun'
I used some of my main Fed toon's EC to buy a Cmdr level Excelsior and equipped it with Mk XI gear. I tested it against my buddy flying a Galaxy Class Retrofit in a one on one challenge and he mopped the floor with me. I was laughing as he blew me up! Ship works well in PvE, but PvP is suicide.
I like scale with your level shuttles and the Connie's scale with your level phasers, but a starship might be too much.
I think the D'kyr looks cool, just debating between that or the Nebula refit. I would reall prefer a galaxy refit, excelsior, or sovereign class, but since I use science ships, doesn't work that well -_-;
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LMAO if people want to waste their money at worst or get new content/fluff at best than isn't that THEIR business? What good will it do to rant about the 'evils' of a marketing scheme that has been used in VARIOUS MMO's over the years? I seriously doubt that NOT buying the D'KYR or the new ANDORIAN SHIP will send any kind of message other than that this particular person doesn't like vulcan ships :P
Hmm.
Why?
Umm considering it's a Tier 5 refit - and Tier 5 is the max ship level in the game atm; what? You want it to scale DOWN? (Sorry your OP makes zero sense)
Guess I shouldn't have bought my T5 Excelsior then since that doesn't scale. Oh wait, I'm a VA, it can only be flown by a VA, can't go higher there is no more scaling. POINTLESS Thread!!!
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean others shouldn't like it or try it to find out.
Like I said in other threads about the Dkye its one of only 3 ships that can do a special power combo..
Grav well 3 and EWP together will trap a whole arena team. It veryfun when you are facing a premade and your pugs falling on its face you can just run around gathering huge numbers in DPS with this combo and changes the whole battle field scenario.
If you launch he shuttle in the middle of a tact team, 80% of the time it will start a extend shield. This ship can also be built to be a great healer or tank.
My only complaint is that the shuttle needs a buff in HP and shields. Also I think it should imitate the playable shuttle as well and get a torpedo launcher. I mean why not? All the people who bought this complained about the shuttle longevity and the huge CD time. I would sacrifice CD if the thing could live longer than 5 sec in some case in pvp. The shuttle needs a buff in some way we all know that.
...Not a peep about tier 6
Not much point to this thread is there?
Personally I've bought every ship they've put out (I'm one of those who likes to collect things) and while I won't be actively using the D'Kyr for my main science officer, it certainly has potential and a 'cool' factor. It's a great addition to tier 5 and a great addition for the RPs.
The TOS Connie comes with Phasers that upgrade as you level because they're special Phasers. They have a blue graphic instead of a red one, to match the original TOS Phaser effect, and sound effects to match. If they did not level, you would be forced to replace them, thereby losing the special cosmetic appearance of the beams. However, the other equipment on the TOS Connie is Standard Issue, and will need to be replaced if you wish to upgrade it any at all.
IMHO, the reason the Shuttle equipment upgrades is so you don't have to keep devoting money and effort at each level keeping your Shuttle stocked with equipment, along with your main ship. You can use the scaliing equipment the Shuttle has, and save your upgrades for your ship. But I've found in many cases I get better results by going ahead and using the proper Mk equipment for my level. The upgrading Shuttle equipment is basically just a backup, so you can always use your Shuttle for the special missions that use it.
I will point out this is the way ALL ships and shuttles in this game work, even those not bought from the C-store. Every shuttle you buy comes with weapons that automatically upgrade as you level. Every ship you either buy or get for free at a level comes with whatever is appropriate for your rank. As you level, you will want to find better and better equipment to outfit your ship. Stuff the automatically upgrades would not be as good, and would take away some of the variety and customization of your ship besides.
In other words, even if there were upgradable ship equipment available, you probably wouldn't use it. You might buy it for emergencies, like I said, or for those spots in the levelling curve where they would be better than what you have, but you should be trying to get blue and purple equipment that is even better.
Also, I'm pretty sure that even though the D'kyr doesn't come with scaling weapons, its shuttle does, and even if it doesn't, I know you can buy those special Shuttle Plasma beams for it at Starbase 39.
So using her to farm emblems/marks to buy the vulcan ship is the only thing in the game she actually 'needs' to do anyway!
Endgame ships are meh when their isnt much left to do with them anymore, give me another 10 levels cryptic and ill straight up buy the vulcan ship so i can level in it for 'fun'
Assuming there will be a tier beyond 5 is huge at this point.
I like scale with your level shuttles and the Connie's scale with your level phasers, but a starship might be too much.