Server merge - DW & RT pls

I think more servers need to merge in general...b:surrender
Heaven's Tear, Sanctuary and Archosaur even share a database so merging two of those would be easier (I think?).

Nah we at heavens tear do not want to mix and mingle with other server trash.

Quite interesting...

I would love the server merge. More new ppl xD new faces .
I don't like much the guild merge.But i guess to make gear more equal between guilds and TW more longer/fun. (i guess would see what happens)

If we get the server merge, i hope NW would be more fun. (more full battles)

DW economy is bad as it can be b:shocked guess merge wont make any changes there (but i hope for the best)

Hope Sparkie will see/read this. Talk about it in office and make it happen /o/

Trust me... you don't want to be merged with RT.

There's plenty of people around, they just don't want to tw. The entire server population isn't based on just the population of the server's tw factions, fyi.

Ill ignore the wall of lies and false information...

I dont think server merge are needed, would be interesting, but not needed.
The problem is people that see TWs in a wrong way, more factions with 50-70 actives for TW would be better than 2 with 80 and 4 with 30, but people cant take losing so they group up and say they want fun TWs when they dont let other factions recruit more by overrecuiting, recruiting people from other TW factions, trying to block factions from attacking eachother etc.
Whats needed is better leaderships, and ppl with balls to STAY in their factions rather than hop to the one that promesses endless wins at the cost of ruining fun.

Merge HL too and make it a PVP server plox.

fine fine... here is the answer XD

1. TWs were fun untill gear gap became stupidly insane, check your own or Kalo's videos for example, how many ppl u kill in 1 min, or see how hard u guys hit on our best geared people, i would say 1/3 of faction is dead all the time, or getting 1 shot, i dont complain for myself, but i understand people that say: whats the point of going against 2-3 ppl that will always 1 shot me and they stay together instead of against so that would balance TWs.
When some people got OP set of cards TW got unbalanced, if u cant see that yet, u need to open your eyes, thats when they stop being fun, when half a faction is a 1 shot.

2.Tempest even defended a 4 way gank, which means u have more than enough ppl for TW, that being 80+ every weekend, yet i still see WCs all the time. i wont tell u how to run your faction ofc, but for example, when dynasty was getting 80+ every week last season, we stopped WCs and told our ppl try not to recruit so that flow of ppl go elsewhere and is better for us. Having people sitting there waiting for a gank in order to be able to TW is not good, especially cause usually will be the charmless or less geared ones.

3. I never said you tried to recruit people from Dynasty, i actually meant from other factions, but u said it yourself, ppl went there. But yes, recently we got a new member, and the day he joined he started getting pm's from tempest to go there till he did. hmm how u call that?

4. I read in a post, yours i think, that how good was that Dynasty had a land touching 1k, cause it means a better chance for a gank, and that would make and even funnier TW, so, why u guys attacked that land??? are u afraid of that attack?? i dont think so... maybe there are other reasons, i dont think Tempest right now could be afraid of any attack. And about last season Dynasty blocking relc, hmm if someone told u that we wanted to block relic from attacking Tempest i tell u now: we dont work for others lol, and Tempest was happy u couldnt reach them anyway.

5. I can speak for Cino, fen, and biggy cause i talked personally with all of them, and the reason they came to dynasty was because they didnt wanna lead anymore, and staying meant still being involved. We never "merge" with anyone, even though i dont see a merge as something bad... beside none of them got officers positions or anything, or were offered, they came as normal members, and some ppl decided to follow them, and i think half were accepted at the most, even if u take troya, kindrid and Vex ppl, u would have around 30, and in a period of a year, not all together.
Kindrid still exists and is a great TW faction, troya become non TW cause members didnt feel like it anymore, and Vex continued for a while, then disbanded i think.

40 active people can make a good TW faction, if they work on improve from there, i dont think a TW that doesnt have 80 vs 80 or last 3 hours isnt fun, we have had great TWs that lasted 60-90min too, and even some defeats of 30min that had awesome moments.

Dark, be happy, you are in the winning faction!!!! when you couldnt win, i read posts of make fact 100 ppl and TWs of 40 max, now you are winning and want server merge, be happy with what you have, if u arent happy now on the top, u never will, or it means you are doing something wrong.

Anyways, i hope TWs balance out soon, would be awesome to have even TWs with chances for either side, that would make those TWs last long and be interesting...
b:bye

I hate walls of texts, even mines.... especially mines!!! typos everywhere!!!!b:laugh

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Friendships, politics, dislikes of other leaderships are the reasons I'd prefer to stay where I am and probably most of my friends. Tempest leadership was the only one I could see Relic's getting along with so that's why I approached them and none of the other TW factions.

Just because you are not in the same factions as your friends doen't mean you can't talk or play with the, or do things with them. I join Dyna / Tempest NW squads. BH squad have people from all factions, and other instances I rarely ever see full faction squads (generally they form during reset when i'm sleeping, but only a few handful of squads are full 1 faction). Also, in my opinion, its a lot of fun fighting friends in TW and NW. I remember a NW when your sqd and Kalo squad were in opposing nations, and every fight, you guys would go to the same land and fight each other. Because you know the gears were balanced, and you never got a chance to fight against your own friends in TW. And Leaderships suck. They always have sucked, and always will suck. Just because you don't like the current president maybe, doesn't mean you move out of the country. You just do your thing, and let him / her do theirs. I'd like to lead a faction my way and all too, but doesn't mean i'm just going to make a new faction. And Politics? its a FREAKIN' GAME. Ignore that stuff. You're here to play, not to join the Senate and determine law and order in your faction.b:shutup

At this stage of the game, anything that isn't 80 vs 80 with a strong mix of r9rr isn't fun, the lag is a small sacrifice to pay for TW on a grand scale as it's intended. Not sure if you've ever had a 3hr 80 vs 80 fight, it's the pinnacle of what this game has to offer. I like strategies and leading TWs, on a smaller scale the TW is more prone to one side having a few OP toons tipping the balance than on a larger scale where the gear average and strategies makes more of a difference, coordination, timing and squad cohesion come into play more.

Um lol? 60 v 60 is enough to fill up a TW map, you don't really need 80. And if everyoen is a lower gear set, its essentially R9RR. Instead of hitting 5ks, people hit 2k, but instead of 50k barbs, they have 2k barbs. PWI can multiply everything by 10 (hp, dmg, etc..), and it can look "more fun" but it essentially the same thing...

If you had 80 on 80, but everyone was in TT 90 gear, you would call that not fun? Everyone in the same gear range, its a skill fight. And damage and everything else would be proportional. And you could have a great back and forth 3 hour TW. You can have good squad cohesion, coordination, timing, and no worrying about one faction having more "OPs" because everyone is in TT90.

Also at the time when Relic and Dynasty 1st went head to head we were having 3 hour back and forth TWs when we were bolstered by a contingent from Vex (which fell apart for various reasons) that was perfect TW, but then when the leadership of Vex (Biggie and Val and crew) and also Troya leadership (Cino and crew) and also a few from Regen came across to Dynasty which tipped the scales too much. That was the point at which there was no need to change anything, if you're having 3hr TWs why recruit so many good geared toons? Greed? Desire to win? Before this it was a stalemate, the defender could always win.

From what I heard, they didn't just jump ship or do a merge. There was drama and chaos in some of those faction that resulted in people seperating. Val & Biggie had a good standing relationship with Dyna and so they went there, but not everyone followed. Some went to relic, some BC, and some Kindrid & EQ. As for troya, well cino and maybe a few went to Dyna, but Rafa (probably one of the best barbs on the server) and his cleric wife and bunch of other troya members went to BootyCamp.

So by the time Tempest and Relic merge happened Dynasty was one push rolling both, so the merger was great for both sides.

Makes sense. You wanted a more competitive TW where you weren't out gunned either on numbers or gear.

Also the last server wide gank was a very close call, Dynasty had taken down all towers and had the crystal at 14m, they started off very well, but threw away that TW when their barbs came running into our base with zero support.

No comment as I was away for a wedding. Nor do I run Dyna TWs.

Dynasty has the option to merge with either BootyCamp Equinox or Kindrid but for mergers to happen you need to have willing non egotistic leaderships willing to share power, like we had in the Tempest and Relic merger, that doesn't work in dictator style factions, where ex-Leaders are unwilling to 'bend the knee'.

Nothing to do with the "bend the knee". These factions like doing different things their way. This whole merge happened once Deathproof came into leadership position and he did not build tempest his way and do his thing. EQ, BC, Kindrid, Dyna started with an identity, and mission from its leaders, and they keep that mission going. So people who may not fit into one, can fit into another. They create a different style of community and each have unique leadership so players can be attracted to different factions.

Current state of the server there are barely enough players to make two factions that can field 80 hence the best option is still a server merge. The fact that Tempest can defend all the other factions on DW at the same time is testament to this.
Pretty sure dyna puts out 60-70, Booty 40-60, EQ and Kindrid about 60 each. Could easily technically have 80 on 80 TWs.

so yea....
and maybe if people liked TWing against the people in tempest, they would merge. But I don't think that's the case... b:chuckle

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Make it happen guys!

No! This would be terrible.

Let's never merge servers. That would be rude and inconsiderate. b:sad

DarkSkiesx - Dreamweaver wrote: »

{Response to Dragslave}

1. Exact same thing happened when Merangelus A_Raft Drakira AznBloodV and a few others joined Dynasty from when God split up and I went with Plague to Relic and Mera took his friends to Dynasty. At that time Tempest and Dynasty were having good fights, but when you drop those kinda players who at the time had maxed out gears into the mix it makes a big diffrence, look at Aeliah's old videos it was the same thing that squad was unstoppable, I didn't see Tempest QQ about it like you guys, you have even a term for it, like it's trending on twitter #GearGap lol did you ask them to split from their friends evenly into the different TW factions back then, so why expect us to leave our friends?

Clearly you don't understand how the game has changed. During those times, the Gear gap wasn't as insane as its become now. Cards have created such a larger gear gap from good, great, and OP players. I have good gear, +10, weapon +12, immac shards, and A cards only 1 max. Great gear is either +10/10 gear + JOSDs or Dietys or good cards max leveled. OP gear is everything.

I am not completely against the server merges, but I do see an issue with faction merges.

That is this:

Numbers.

Plain and simple as that.

Lets say dyna's/tempest main 60/80/90 or however many shows up, lets just assume they get 'first' pick on which faction they wish to stay in/go to, and they all decide to go, then their counterparts in QQme/vicious/wherever have 130 (exaggerating... but yea bare with me, but also want to go) the 'new' faction be it a merge into dyna, or into vicious there would only be space for 200 total. Meaning people would get left out of the merger. ;/

That's not even counting the ones who have been in those faction for a while, but haven't been able to go to tw for various but absolutely understandable reasons, and the leaders or whichever faction he or she is in, knows they are a very valuable asset to have in faction when their time/feel up to joining back into TW (not nw).

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As for the bit about faction merging with dyna, to be honest no one could stop a merger from happening, especially if a select group of people/the 'right' person makes the right statement/post or whatever and a bit of a revolt happens and the faction loses a significant amount of their key players to another single faction. (It could happen to ANY faction, be they small, or large, but they still wouldn't change the fact that factions DO have limited space.)

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As for people being 'afraid'... i personally feel people are too discouraged to continue fighting a loosing fight at the moment, people are undoubtedly getting tired/fed up with being rolled. (or that is what some people are calling it... personally i feel 25minutes give or take isn't completely a 'roll'... but aye dyna could be doing alot better, but they most certainly could be doing a hell of a lot worse.) Its like that old saying, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is just pure insanity or something like that. (Perhaps some of dyna members are living by this a little too much, but meh there is no denying morale does seem to be down/the willingness to fight and try to overcome stupid ridiculous odds is almost non-existent.... namely the ability that godly gear gives people the leeway to do insanely stupid things even against those in semi-godly gear themselves. Really though it not just dyna that experiences that, it's very easy to feel overwhelmed by the gear gap in this game sadly... in other words its easy to feel overwhlemed by this or that, and just not show up regardless of who you are/where your from.)

i really like this idea would like to meet new players we need more on rt server b:thanks

Let's not merge. We have enough e-pixel-peen idiot world chats from the PvP folks we have now. We don't need DWs as well