the most recent scam, be careful.

Dspeck - Raging Tide wrote: »

This also has occured on the RT server as well, Don't trust anyone asking for acct info or asking you to visit a site outside of pwi/arc games

When it comes to MMOs, I trust no one, not even friends, not because I don't trust my friends, but because in the MMO world you just don't know who might be behind the toon. As for account info, I won't even trust immediate family with it. I also regularly change my password, have different passwords for the game, faction site, email, etc. I would never trust 3rd party game programs like botting, or private servers, or non PWI websites. I'm not paranoid, but in almost 20 years of gaming, I've never once been scammed or **** in any game I've played.

However this poor Nigerian fella needs me to send him money. He promises to send me a lot in return so, I will check the forums later.

thats one main problem in being full free2play ranky

I still dont know why everyone is so upset with the scamming thing.

Seriously. It's all about abusing stupidity of others to get an advantage. Dont see a big difference to what most multi billion coin heavy Merchants are doing. Same goes for you ranky.

Merchanting stuff (means buying lowest possible prices and selling highest possible) is scamming others and gaining from their loss. ofc you are not forcing then to sell you stuff for cheap but that doesnt eliminate the fact that the whole merchanting strategy depends of either stupid or very very desperate ppl that need money asap (judging from the fact that we are talking about a game its kinda the same as stupid).

the problems are not the scammers (might count in merchants or not idc). the problem is the overwhelming stupidity of humans. mix it up with a little greed and you get the perfect retardness.

Imho ppl that get tricked that easily and fall for redicolous obvious sht as this deserve it. they deserve it so much like they would literally beg for it and even more. Even if someone would play this game who is purely innocent and trusts anyone and anything there are enough warnings in the forums and in the ToS themselves. ya well that ignorance...makes me even wish to kick ppl falling for this even more.

If I ever would be stupid enough to fall for something redicolous I wanna be dead the next second because I would know that my brain alrdy is dead then.

XDeliciousx - Morai wrote: »

I dont understand this "its victims fault" mentality. Is it victims fault if a girl gets abused coz she wears sexy outfit? Thats almost same case here. Hackers are getting smarter and smarter every day, and they evolve their ways to find ppl who will fall for it. And no, those people dont have to be stupid, it can be just language issue or something else that puts their guard down. It doesnt make it right and we as community have to fight against it together since GMs didnt even move a little finger to punish well known scammers.

how many times has pwi said that if the site isn't an official pwi site don't go to it! if a person reads the user agreement it clearly states that you should not give out acount info to anyone else, and that actualy letting someone else use your account/ account sharing is bannable. when you go to a gold site or any fake pwi and they ask for your account info you should know better, if it's too good to be true then it likely isn't true.

My main concern is that it's so persistent and big scaled. I've seen scams, hacks and stuff like that in game, but never on this scale. I've seen fakes from any noticeable faction on Morai. From what I noticed, there is very precise information on targetting (bad English, no fl, ...) and good knowledge of what's going on in those factions (so yeah, probably alts everywhere). Next to that, it's going on for a long time now. Most that I've seen where more "hit and run" attempts. This just keeps going, even made websites for different attempts and so on. On top of that, it seems to affect all servers. Can't say if it's in the same extend as Morai, but there are enough posts in this thread.

I always consider people are often to naive and that they should pay more attention, it's also up to PWE to take some measures and (try to) put up barriers. If this continues on Morai, we'll soon have an over paranoid server.

Joe - Morai wrote: »

Merchanting stuff (means buying lowest possible prices and selling highest possible) is scamming others and gaining from their loss. ofc you are not forcing then to sell you stuff for cheap but that doesnt eliminate the fact that the whole merchanting strategy depends of either stupid or very very desperate ppl that need money asap (judging from the fact that we are talking about a game its kinda the same as stupid).

You're mixing several things up here (for most countries at least). In simplified, if someones ignorance leads them to buying something to expensive or selling it to cheap, and you gain advantage of that, you're simply lucky with only a few exceptions like minors. If you use their ignorance to lie to them and make them believe something that isn't true, then you are abusing them.

I can't redeem O'maley blessing, when i try to get it it said that i dont have a character on PWI. Any tips? Any ideea's ?

XDeliciousx - Morai wrote: »

Check sticky topic: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1674241

i did download ARC , i did log in , stil the same thing ''you dont hvae a character on PWI''

qwertykif wrote: »

i did download ARC , i did log in , stil the same thing ''you dont hvae a character on PWI''

i had it last week but now... i dont know what hapent

trands wrote: »

Yeah of course. I won't go giving a detailed study on the subject on a game forum. What you said was relating to business law using a specific legal infraction, and it was inappropriate (at least for most countries). Making a study on how to implement business law and marketing into the player run economy of a multicultural MMO is fun for sure, but that would go a bit overboard. I won't go study the ToS or make a 50 page report to reply here b:laugh

My main point is simple : It's not a black and white scenario. While the scammed/**** person sure is to blame him/herself, it's still the scammer/hacker that is the author of an obviously immoral scheme. Being dumb or naive is a flaw, but it's not a crime.

Thank you. I'm actually not only talking to braindead ppl (: thx alot ^.^

And I couldnt agree with you more. Ofc its not right to missuse anyones trust or w/e. Scammer are scum, nothing more, nothing less and ya it could go a bit overboard and all...but some...err all big companies out there are nothign more then a bunch of scammers out of a billion reasons. but ya. we are supposed to be entertained in games like this. Actually its the best thing if you can just turn your head off for a while and simply relaxe while slaying some mobs...ppl like those scammers that force others to think and all are doing more dmg to the ppl then just on a material basis.

RankNine - Momaganon wrote: »

you could type 3 pages of "wisdom and knowledge" and it would still be claims and facts that you read or heard somewhere only. i havent seen a single detailed explanation coming form you ever, yet all you do is accusing your "flamers" of not having valid arguments.

newsflash, those people dont intend to "flame" you, they just want you to shut your face.

I already tried to explain stuff in detail. But its no use. You have your static way of thinking and it doesnt matter what I say. Ofc I could write a book about the way I think and see things. But seriously. Everything I say doesnt come from studies. That comes from opening your eyes and just listen to the world around you. So theres no need to say anything because anyone that pays attention could come to the same conclusions as I do.

BTW: I'm not saying that I'm perfect. I am not. And I am the least one that refuses to change its mind when I get good arguments. But if there are no argues then nothing can change my mind...right? I'm always open for any kind of talking.

Ofc I cannot prove that my view is right. How could I xDD? If 1 bil ppl say I'm wrong even tho I might be right, then *** it I'm wrong. Nothing I could do about it + it's better to not know some stuff.

it is surprising how people still blame the victims. u dont have to blame them, they blame themself already. the next question is actually how pwi handle this situation. how pwi do fast reaction and makes the scammer not comeback.

here my scam please insert -account name- and -password- please and thank ypu, i'll leave you with a surprise if can have your infob:laugh but seriously if people read and followed the tos scammers would have a hard time.
1) don't share accounts, I cant count how many times husbands and wifes/BF/GF/Partners do this. Factions do it alot too, hell when i was in a "Fam-insert letter "D"-amily" our leader left the game and gave their info to director and the director would use the old leader's bm and mystic. did pwi ever do anything ....no of course not.
2) Don't go to sites claiming to have free shiny poo. that is a no brainer i would think.
3)if you decide to play on an unofficail pwi game i,e private server, please common sense says to use different email to make an account there, along with different username and password than the one used here on official Perfect World game. also beware of factions that have sites, 99% are safe but when joining a faction that has a faction site, please use different emeail than the one used for your ingame account.
4)it is against the rules to use botting software/refining software/**** of kinds, this was not just to prevent hackers/botters from taking up space where i normal player would but again 3rd party software could be gathering your info, maybe it has a keylogger that is invisible who knows.
5) I have followed all the advice and rules pwi laid down years ago, and i mean years, been here since beta, and never have i had my account stripped/****/or whatever others have. I also don't share accounts with friends and faction members.
Also if you are **** or scammed good luck getting attention from pwi staff, but if you want to know how to get pwi staff to actualy do their job, charge some zen, any amount that way you can say your cash player, otherwise if your like when **** happens, they look at zen history and see i never put money in so they won't help me b/c im not a costumer. free to play but pay to win/get a response from the horrid lazy staff of pwi.

umm on archosaur last weeks started mass attempts to trade characters..that wasnt there before..or at least not that much. But scammers were there all the time...but thanks i will be more carefull now