For All The Money We Give You Why Cant We Have A Properly Run Game?

Just a simple solution, either stop PVPing or play another game. The game is more broken now than it was before since the genie expansion, we all know that.

I play PW only for PVE reasons, PWE have awful PVP mechanics. Complaining will get you nowhere.

These are my opinions, but I do think the idea of dexterity increasing weapon damage as well as crit chance does have an advantage with the new expansion of rebirthing. Maybe a slight damage ratio reduction or a cap with stats points in general might help it. People can be more flexible with their points, more builds will come out, different styles of gameplay may develop. It these type of things which I think makes a game a lot more interesting, at least that's what I think.b:surrender

Auerlius - Archosaur wrote: »

get to end game with 40k hp. you'll see then.

This is the post that you've said 2+ times that bothers me the most. While agreeing/disagreeing with 1 or more things about the Main Topic of this thread (LA/Dex Attribute to Crit rate % and further more, the unbalance of this games PvP mechanics).

Stating to someone to "Get to end game..." you are asking me or someone else to either CS or spend countless hours to get to YOUR level of gaming. rrr9+12 Endgame sharding (Vits/JoSD/Diety). You can't ask or even make this statement hold water when you are losing to Endgame Players and you are Endgame yourself.

Would be wildly more interesting to see you lose to me G16+5 Warsoul+10 full Demon Rebirth twice Str over Vit build with 54 Dex. Or anyone for that matter that is not on your same gear requirement. The reason why I disagree with you is not based on Troll Reason its how your first impression. To me, i saw:

"Im losing. Why am I losing. I am [considered] best cleric on my server(game?)".

That's what gets me. How can you be considered that when your gear level faced with other clerics of the same gear is equal. Meh. But I rather not get into a debate about who people feel is the best at a certain class.

So to stay on topic.

Raise the Dex to Crit Rate % higher. Have it at 30-40. Still wont stop LA gears from Critting is my only point. Unbalanced game play is in all games. All though some (most?) would not like to or want to admit it. All games have an unbalanced character or 2. Its the nature of Diversity in characters. When you make 2 characters Balanced/Similar you kill a Character from being played because it lacks either 1-2 things its Similar character doesn't have, (Longer Stun, More range, Different weapons for more suitable PvP).

All of the MMOs that I have played, while people tend to play 3+ classes, most play 1 main class for everything. Meaning there is something about that Class/Character that makes him/her most convenient and ultimately BETTER than the rest. What is better than the rest, by default, makes it unbalanced. I don't think its that Classes Fault. Maybe its the Game Mechanics. Take out Acc. and Evasion? Put in a Lower Cap on Crit? But doing this to 1 Gear in the game (LA) will cause that classes Community to QQ about it and ask for Lower Cap on Channeling and stuff.

Lastly, you stated you would leave this game duo to these problems and more. Clearly you didn't. And yes, i will agree with barbs on this forum in the sense of "Barbs are fair from invincible..." hard to kill? Maybe.

But I feel like all of these threads that are talking about the Barb/BM skills, Unbalanced gaming, Broken mechanics, and Over Power Classes are all talking from a 1v1 Point of view. I have yet to see a TW/NW vid that shows me a Barb or BM dominating a map or group match and not dieing. Just like i have yet to see a sin not die from the same thing. In a 1v1 its meant to be 50/50. If there's a 100% possibility that you are gonna lose, why even do it. 100% death in a 1v1 are usually more apparent.

Many JoSD/Vit rrr9+12 barbs (PURE cata build barbs have 50k+ health) dye in seconds if they think their HP is their ultimate defense because Vit doesn't' give the same Def as JoSD. But just like that. JoSD has no Attack capability. Just allows you to take more hits but doesn't inc HP so you are also relying on your higher Def. And when you find the perfect all around Sharding that gives you def, Hp, Atk, with the culti that suits you best for DPH, as a barb, you still have to draw back of getting to that person. Its not as simple of everyone that is a none barb claims and i in ploy all those that say its easy to play/roll a barb to do so. Hell many you'd even like playing barb. See that because we have no Gap Closers, no long range or Tele CC and no consistent DPH or OP stating that you'll actually like the "unbalances" of the class. Stating with a Min. of 54 dex and (while allowing you to put in as much vit as you see fit) having enough vit to make sure you can tank in and out of caves while having a Min. of 260+ str. Our Stating isn't as Narrow as lets say a Magic class that needs a min of 54 str. Since most AA classes get little to no HP from Vit they put around 80-100vit. Then pour the rest into Magic. And LA gears dont even put in Vit LOL.

I know a mystic running around with 3 Vit and has over 10k HP but shes rrr9+12. And if you think that that stating understandable. Think about BMs stating for Dex and Str along with Vit too.

Toxicjello - Raging Tide wrote: »

If you had intelligence, would you put 5 grand into a toon on PWI? b:chuckle

Truth is, OP, you will never change the minds of the ones who always sit on these forums and defend PWI. Most, if not all, of them have spent well over $1000 dollars on this game. Some have spent $10,000+ on this game. b:surrender So, of course, they are going to defend their investments.

But, OP, I understand what your asking and you have every right to be concerned about investing any more money into PWI! Because the truth is that the top played, best MMORPG's do have better content, better customer service, better class/gear balance, offer players better incentives, have active GM's, and have bugs/glitches fixed within a responsible amount of time. Their cashshops only offer cosmetic and convenience items (like an instant summons banks and gathering boosts etc). And, you will NEVER find the best gear in the game in those cashshops!

PWI was the very first MMO I ever played (started in Feb 2011). And one day out of boredom, I ventured out and started playing other MMO's and I have had an amazing time seeing what other games have to offer. I've played subscriptions, B2P, F2P, and this weekend I'm trying out a beta for the awesome one being released in April. b:dirty I'm a gamer, I play games. And all those games have been fun but I have come back to PWI over and over because I missed my old friends, I missed my characters, and I missed my first MMO. But, even tho I love many parts of this game, just like the OP, I have concerns and worries about investing money into PWI. And when we have concerns, we're told basically to **** and deal with or leave! But, I will not be pressured into believing that it's okay for bugs and glitches to be overlooked for YEARS!! b:angry And the rebuttal is always the same..."PWI is F2P so we should stop complaining and be lucky we get anything at all. We weren't promised anything. We should all just be happy with what we get. They are working to fix things, just be patient." Oh, and of course, we shouldn't complain about lag spikes, bad customer support, broken quests, and glitches that seldom (if ever) get fixed because again...IT's FREE! Okay then, let's discuss content that isn't "free". A bride and groom want to get married so they spend $60 total for both packs. They have purchased their "marriage content". It was NOT free content so one would assume it should be bug/glitch free. Yet, there is a marriage ceremony bug and a marriage quest bug that has been going on for over 2 yrs!!! There have been tons of threads on these forums about it, tons of players who have submitted tickets and STILL those bugs/glitches have NEVER been fixed! What is your argument about this bad customer service?? PWI knows that is broken but they also know people will STILL pay for wedding packs and still deal with the bugged quests. So why should they fix broken content that is still making them money??...see where I'm going with this?

TL;DR
There are many F2P games that offer excellent content, support, and service. PWI is not one of them.

Cant help but notice a hint envy mixed with a pinch of logic.
$50, $100, $200, or 5k
Most pple use what is available and appropriate for their financial status. (and if they dont its obviously not our business to round everyone else with them) If someone spends 5k on an online game, a casino gambling, a cruise ship, a week in hawaii, or a sandwich, it doesnt warrant their intellect being prodded. Rather the one in question should be the intellectual (or lack of) whos put a value based on a view point against a subject that has too diverse a social range.

If you dont like it, dont spend on it, its free leech game. If you like it, spend the money.
If you think xx amount is a bogus amount, dont call others out cause your not up to their financial status. I know pple in this game who spend over 10k too and guess what, their big business owners, or their relatives or what not. They are pple who drive Ferraris and gift their children with the old ones. Some own acres of land and others have had 1k allowance per week.

Unless they are pretty darn dumb, pple know what their playing, and what their not getting from pwi. That includes bugs, lags, and content. Wanna marry ingame? Skip the luxury you cant spurge on, if it means not getting that name on your head with your hubbies name. Thats a damn luxury. Instead craft each other a ring as it engraves the makes name on it and exchange it. There are always ways to get around that.
Bad customer service? Well it could be diff. pple or pple working under diff. supervisors who give them diff. advice. Its the same in any service, sometimes you get good and sometimes the bad. Ive had mediocre service to downright pleasant ones so yeah....

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

That's one hell of a sandwich! b:faint

its my SuperStar Sammich

bread on bread.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

its my SuperStar Sammich

bread on bread.

Thought you was gonna say a matsutake mushroom, Wagyu, Italian White Alba truffle on rye. b:victory

OP answered his own question in the title:

For All The Money We Give You Why Cant We Have A Properly Run Game?

Players keep giving them money for doing a horrifically ****ty job at running their version of Perfect World. Giving them money is an affirmation of the job they're doing, it's called speaking with your wallet.

SkogDyr - Lost City wrote: »

OMG!!! You are removed due to client instability! You made me eyes bleed! b:angry

i kinda skimmed over that one too b:surrender super block of text

i see everyones point but teh truth is teh devs rush a game out to make money but expect ppl to be fine with bugs/glitches. i dont agree with that, it SHOULD be beta tested many times to fix bugs glitches etc. As for the customer support, well to be blunt it really does suck and needs improvement in vast areas, like communication, appearances, response times. And if your gonna have a live agent talk window ,for godsakes use the dam thing.

For the issue, i concurr that its noone else's bussiness what they spend on and how much they make, but on the other hand, those same ppl who spend thousands of dollars on a video game (certain ppl call investments ) are rediculous and **** and need a slap in the head with a hammer. Investments mean you give something to get double or more back after a time, but investmesnts in video games isnt an investment unless the investor is gettin paid or accruing money for playing and /or investing. I personally dont spend money on video games because its **** unless its proven to be without bugs or glitches (console games only, no PC/Mac games ) like xbox 360 or ps3 or 4 or xbox one. And those are for the kids.

Next point is teh content ,yes its ok btu ive seen better in the beta im testing atm. Glitches and bugs will be in games but its up to the developers and owners to create a sound strategy to eliminate the problem areas within a minimal amount of time, not years but days - weeks. Ive been here in pwi for 5 years and ive watched it fal downhill and fast, and i agree that pwi is the only game to sell the best gear in its cash shop. For some its a good thing and they may think its awesome, but what happens when teh servers finally die and shut down. Then where is all that money they spent gone. They wont get it back and is a complete waste.

Pwi imo screwed up by selling gears in the cash shop because the game was already balanced and fun. But once that happened, it started the downhill spiral and wont stop unless the developers and bussiness sector, along with owners, look at each other and realize what they need to fix the game to bring old players back and allow new ones to join and appreciate it once more.
Ive seen alot of old experienced players quit and teh same with new players who just cant get anywhere. So the big question here is how long will pwi last with current conditions.

sir, pls use paragraphs b:surrender
and no, games arent just for kids b:thanks
and no, only 'tards think pitching in money in a game is an 'investment'. For most mature people, its a gamble. Money used knowing you might have just wasted it. How dumb does it sound when you hear someone say 'i invested in this slot machine and it wont give me double or more back!'

I was a heavy cash shopper years ago. Not pleased that it(the money they got) was not used to improve the game in a favorable way.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

i kinda skimmed over that one too b:surrender super block of text

sir, pls use paragraphs b:surrender
and no, games arent just for kids b:thanks
and no, only 'tards think pitching in money in a game is an 'investment'. For most mature people, its a gamble. Money used knowing you might have just wasted it. How dumb does it sound when you hear someone say 'i invested in this slot machine and it wont give me double or more back!'

I do not know about you guys but putting money into a game is neither an investment or gamble for me, it actually goes under the Entertainment section of my Budget along with Game/Video DVDs, Restaurants, Booze money, Dating Funds and anything else I do not need to live, but do to kill spare time.

I used to put a little coin (~$20USD) into this game every fortnight, but stopped awhile ago when I realized that I cannot play a game where cheats always prosper and they even change the game play to allow legal cheating e.g. ingame bots, stuff that ends up leaving me feeling frustrated, so now my money now goes to a game where this just does not happen.

I am still here, and some ways it might be the morbid fascination people get when watching a train wreck in slow motion, but I am hoping/dreaming of a day when someone actually does something to improve the game play, instead of the accounting departments bottom end figures and then I may return full time but with the companies future plans to force the use of ARC on me, this may just be wishful thinking.

SylenThunder - Sanctuary wrote: »

1, PWE leases PWI from Wanmei over in China.

2, If you're having that much of an issue with lag, read here. I play an Archosaur too and I'm usually sitting around 175ms from a bit over halfway across the country.

3, PWE's purpose is to publish games and make money. They don't do development on those games.

You're incorrect on #3. PWE owns Cryptic Studios, which DOES to development (for STO, but still). So, saying that PWE does no dev, is bs.

I would die inside if PWE made the Cryptic devs fix the problems PWI has. Those guys do good work, no reason to throw them under the bus.

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

You're incorrect on #3. PWE owns Cryptic Studios, which DOES to development (for STO, but still). So, saying that PWE does no dev, is bs.

I would die inside if PWE made the Cryptic devs fix the problems PWI has. Those guys do good work, no reason to throw them under the bus.

But again, it's Cryptic doing the Dev work, not PWE. PWE didn't even come up with and create STO, they just purchased Cryptic later after the game had already been created, and Atari had it before then even.

Edit:

Blacklight: Retribution ~ Developed by Zombie Studios, Published by PWE
BOI ~ Developed by Wanmei, Published by PWE
Champions Online ~ Developed by Cryptic Studios, Published by Atari, Leased by PWE
ESO ~ Created by ?, Published by Wanmei, Leased by PWE
FW ~ Developed by Wanmei, Published by PWE
JD ~ Created by ?, Published by Wanmei, Leased by PWE
Neverwinter ~ Developed by Cryptic Studios, Published by PWE.
PWI ~ Created by Archosaur Studios, Purchased and Developed by Wanmei, Leased by PWE
RaiderZ ~ Created and Developed by MAIET Entertainment, Published by PWE
Rusty Hearts ~ Developed by Stairway Games, Published by PWE
STO ~ Created and Developed by Cryptic studios, Published by PWE
Torchlight (2) ~ Created and developed by Runic games, Published by PWE

PWE is just the US Publisher for Beijing Perfect World/Wanmei. They don't actually do any development. (With the exception of the websites, and the majority of the Arc system.)
Also, Cryptic is actually owned by Beijing Perfect World, not PWE.

wat barb did u fight?