New Horizon Feedback 2.0

sparkiesoft wrote: »

Q:What did you like?

Primval world, pretty place.
Flowsilver, it's a very fun instance to me.
War Avatar System. This is basically new gear to me, and I'm happy I can work on this new stuff without having my old gear wasted in any way which was really expensive. So yea, I'm happy that there weren't any new gear added, but cards to improve your current gear.
A lot of title quests finally got fixed
They made pavillions and warsong runs different. I would also say its more challenging, but I think thats more because I started do warsong on a lower geared alt lol xD

sparkiesoft wrote: »

Q:What did you dislike?

Auto-Cultivation bot-system. I first liked this a lot, but it's getting annoying you have to keep botting to keep up with money etc. Not to mention those that cant bot at all..
They removed Dragon Hidden Den (DHD)
There no way to get the title "Doom of Eminence" which was from killing last boss in DHD.
Fairy boxes are no longer in TT
Removed the "daily" quest 'Secret Man' 546 628... I (and a lot of others) dont even know if it just was a temporarily daily, or if it's a bug that it's removed/don't work. Same happened with a daily giving extra Feral Soul Stars in the veno instance, and same happened with a daily at Dreaming Cloud that gave us Holy pills. Just would like to know about such instead of it's suddenly gone >.>
I also dislike when you leave the starting area there is no way to get back (couldn't they put a max level instead? Like say Lv15 non-rebirth)

sparkiesoft wrote: »

Q:What could've made it better?

Flowsilver place. It's a very fun instance indeed - but if you die forexample on the water boss (2nd one) it will be a pain to get back, because he spawn water pools and mobs at you besides you aren't nearby (because you died and are back to start) I seen people spam dieing due to this. Toad glitces as well with axes when he throws at some that died, makes him recover full HP back due to cannot pick up the axe he throwed.

sparkiesoft wrote: »

Q:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?

Mostly bug fixs. Forexample the 2nd rebirth questline thats broken, and the pet flying glitch.
Would be nice if War Avatars Cards were at least accountstash able.
Fairy boxes back in TT and doesn't require fairy box keys like they use to (those keys just take extra place in my inventory)
Shorter respawn time on some mini world bosses required for title quests. Especially with this new botting, I have almost no hope finding it because people just kill it automatically as soon it spawns lol.

sparkiesoft wrote: »

Q:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?

No

You can see himself, who play this game now.

I had analyzed previous 33 posts.

Among them 24 are with avatars with visible class/level (may be some of them have not updated level, since they say, about reincarnation even being level less than 100, but ...) .
Among those 24 there are 18 level 100+ characters.
Among those 18 characters there are 7 level 105 characters.

Q:What did you like?

- showing new content with positive feeling PWI will keep alive
- merge unused skill to useful skills
- new instance FSP with new bosses (inclusive character balancing)
- Racoooooons
- Possibility for improving main characters
- intelligent reborn leveling for avoiding stupid grinding to higher levels
- idea to roll-out content over vacation days to give time for reborn (inclusive 2x exp)
- level back to 1 and wear still my old gear
- faster way to level up to 105 with demon book

Q:What did you dislike?
- bugs which should be identified by test team if PWI would only do one quest
(e. g. quest chain 2nd reborn)
- no customer care from EU part during roll-out of new content
- balancing of new skills to old skills/environment (hard cut of mains and toons --> increase gap)
- High Inflation caused of auto botting function
- Catalyst only via Shop and not via quest
- Force solo grinding for nuema in a MMO

Q:What could've made it better?
- test your new content and improve EU community communication

Q:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?
- Better EU community communication
- Implement other reborns
- New Instances in PvE (for leveling, farming and fun)

Q:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?
- No, was easy - at least war avatar cards needed to be tested a bit about how its working

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

You can see himself, who play this game now.

I had analyzed previous 33 posts.

Among them 24 are with avatars with visible class/level (may be some of them have not updated level, since they say, about reincarnation even being level less than 100, but ...) .
Among those 24 there are 18 level 100+ characters.
Among those 18 characters there are 7 level 105 characters.

Don't count me as 105 character because first of all i'm not a barbarian nor i'm 105. My actual character was lvl 103 assassin. It is the bug AVATAR creating confusion. Also majority of the player-base doesn't bother to look at the stuffs going on in forums. b:sad

Q:What did you like?

I really enjoyed the new content- the new map is challenging, the skill upgrades were nice an the new instance is really fun.

Q:What did you dislike?

Surprisingly horrible miss-match between translations, both in quest text and on new skills, to the point where you don't know how to progress properly or what a skill really does (a small example is wizard skill Frozen flame, which says it does 800% damage when in fact it hits twice for 400% separately; also, npc text for progression text says you require the wrong sky cultivation, switching mirage sky -second awakening cultivation- for arcane sky -first awakening cultivation- and vice versa) .

Q:What could've made it better?

Proper testing of the content before implementation would have clearly showed what was translated wrongly, so that the skills and quests could have been smoothly introduced.

Q:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?

New skill upgrades would be nice, in order to make less used skills relevant again. New dailies to help leveling without the necessity for Frost (yes, delicious Phoenix Valley is awesome, but some quests would also help).

Q:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?

No, due the the community made guides on the forums. In the future, a sort of introduction to the new stuff would be helpful also.

sparkiesoft wrote: »

Hi all, this post won't be stickied for too long as I know it's getting a bit cluttered up here. That said, I wanted to create this thread to get a very general feel of how you are all experiencing the new expansion. Below are a few questions for you to answer. They can be brief, or give in-depth detail, it's up to you.

Q1:What did you like?
Q2:What did you dislike?
Q3:What could've made it better?
Q4:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?
Q5:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?

Thanks!

Q1: I liked the new world. It gave a new area for everyone to explore, which for somone who has played for many years and knows every inch and crack of both morai and the main map rather nice. The updated skills also sounds rather good, despite now having one as im getting the defence passive skills cause thats also amazing.

Q2: I dislike the fact that the expansion was released early as a compensation to the +10 orb code muck up. Incase you didnt know, a server had major issue, they tried to compensate with +10 orbs, the code got glitched, some people had 50+ orbs and others like myself didnt have any. And the people who abused it are rumoured to of only had a 2 week ban. Hell id take a 2 week ban for all my gears +10 b:laugh

Q3: An official FAQ. We get these updates with next to no information on what to do. All the info we get on it is from other players which is usually assumptions and can be wrong at times. An official source for how stuff works that is guaranteed to be right would be great.

Q4: Coming from a pve server players point of view, pk enabled areas for blue named players. I want to practice not being completed pwned a few times before i go into pk and risk my gears b:laugh

Q5: Killing lvl 150 mobs at lvl 1? nah was easy b:laugh i joke i joke, i had a bit of issues at the start with my poor gear and such but after doing some quests and lvled enough to have my gear back it was easy. I did hear about some people who didnt have any quests to do as they had done them all prior to awakening their characters. I dont know if it would be possible to add some extra quests in for the awakened characters? only up untill about 30/40 where you can start pv, crazy stones and BH quests instead.

thanks for reading b:thanks

Boomz - Harshlands wrote: »

The light armor classes are currently stronger and once the rebirth is done, will be far stronger than the other armored classes. Sage full r9 sins can do 2 aps a second with over 200 attack lvs and zerk crit every other move and archers have always been way too powerful for their gear and with the new skills, especially frost splash they will be at a whole different level of power. I see time and time again these classes being able to kill other classes of gear much superior to their own without any skill, just purely being an overpowered class. I dislike the lack of testing on these servers for equalizing the classes. They may or may not test this stuff in china, but that is irrelevant for we have different gear than they do and different content therefore making their gameplay irrelevant to ours.

Just wanted to point out something, EA's are not OP (*me lies*), actually we have huge DD, but nothing to do with new skills, at all.

New skills are ****, 2 sparks for Frost splash is nearly insulting... I can see really SO few situations when we'd use that instead of a barrage, moreover considering massive pvp...

Btw, EA's can't tank a ** unless wasting loads of chi on the anti-stun skills that have terrible CD. LA are pure ****, worst defence in game.... we can get a one-shot from casters and meles either way... at least sin's can survive some of those killing hits, but still...

Anyway, that'd start the usual discusion about "my class sucks" "random class QQ" and so on, everyone feels squishy when facing full +12 josd of any class...

The only point was to clear about new skills, ea's were hugely fked in this update when it came to skills... Gosh, from an EA with "decent" gear, I won't even consider geting those skills until I max. all pasives... and even then, the only one "worth" it is frost splash...

PS: About Frost spalsh you may wanna read Archer forum about it, always good to know other's skills!

Liked: Revamp of macro system. It no longer aborts if the next skill is in cooldown, or you run out of mana.

Disliked: Another quest that requires you to be in PK mode to complete. Continued use of the main inventory for quest items. We have a quest inventory, it should be utilized for quest items. Lack of quests to do in between Rebirth level x1 quests when leveling back up (unless you'd rushed past the content, and those who had were busy rushing past the content for the 2nd and 3rd time.)

In general, the new content was easy to do. The one exception I think is a level 51 first rebirth quest in Kirin town which required you to kill some high HP, hard hitting mobs.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Main problems I see:

3) There are lots of dailys now which restrict how you play the game. The rewards they offer are so strong they are pretty much required but the fact you can only do them once a day means you have to work them into your schedule every day. That gets annoying fast.

The Nuema system also requires that you solo a pointless low level instance 20 times a week. That's such a stupid waste of time. Nothing fun about that.

I strongly agree with this too. Like I had said dailies should be optional, but the kind of reward they give forces you to give them some time, and running a low level instance 20 times per week is not fun.

Azura - Lost City wrote: »

I strongly agree with this too. Like I had said dailies should be optional, but the kind of reward they give forces you to give them some time, and running a low level instance 20 times per week is not fun.

I forgot to mention that but yeah.... I hate the amount of dailies we've been bombed with. You must do them or else you fall behind, the penalty of missing out on the dailies is pretty high. It really gets to the point where it feels like a chore to do them and even worse...a lot of people abandoned their alts, me included, because it's already hard/annoying to keep up with a single toon.

Q1:What did you like?
Q2:What did you dislike?
Q3:What could've made it better?
Q4:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?
Q5:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?

A1: Ooh, many good things and they all add up.
-Meridians, even if they're from earlier expansion already, and as frustrating as they can be if you need 2 in a row, and when you finally get it, there comes some server rollback and you have to do it again... And later you realize they were at the same place as last time, but you can't remember where you opened the second one, fail at guessing and hope for new rollback b:laugh Proper way would have been to try guessing the 2nd first, but didn't notice to try that before I had already stumbled open the 1st one I knew.

-The titles are nice, do make more. I suppose they will also affect mystic pet summons through my stats? Archosaur seal went very well together with rebirth, as it required the old culti bosses finished in early BHs too.

-War avatar cards, very nice if they reach to my pets, pity if they don't, but they're still nice. I haven't made any sets yet, except the poor qingfu triplets, but had some luck and made 3 A cards with Flow Silver Palace rewards, and leadership being 10/10 I'm quite satisfied for now. As for the other possible FSP rewards, 30 pages every day is like dream come true.

-If Primal world skill upgrade makes Chihyu noticeable stronger I'm definitely going to like it. New aoe on Swirling Mist is so sweet that my Lucky Break is on cooldown far too often. New passive skills will make a big difference, I'm trying to decide if I should go for new Chihyu first or lvl those... Just don't tell me someone changed Chihyu's looks O_O or I'll forget about that skill.

-Reawakening is fun. If I ever get to reawaken my alts, I'm going to love every quest I didn't yet do on them, because I did all mine even if I was past the intended lvl and now I don't have enough quests to keep leveling on rebirth. I'm desperate enough to do Justice orders and one-man army quests. The exp multipliers really made many small quests worth doing. I ran exp quests in Manor of Justice (inside faction base) before and they're just so much better on x4 and x3.5. If those adds only reached past lvl99.

-Continuation of Dreamchaser Kit gear sets and them dropping in instances. They're very good gear and rather easy to get, my alts have been getting better and better
geared. Should just keep a track of who needs what for the times I see them drop.

-Nearly forgot to add this, with so many reborn running BHs, wines are not necessary anymore, which is good as token prises are what they are. Even if you can solo BHs, do take some tag alongs, they might find some tabs in their bags if you're lucky. It's definitely good time to lure newly reborns to all those FBs you needed to be done for so long. And the way things are now, some divine and other quests are easier to get done as well.

A2:
-When I accidentally get myself stuck with stowing mount on autopathing, full chi and buffed. Guess it's trying to change mount to flyer or someting.

-Why at Tyrant Prince Mushi that Sword passing chi around so generously seems to kill my summons? Am I missing something, because I dont see any reason it should do that... Well, I can go around that as Cragglord is timed anyway so it will leave before chi shower and I can use Energy Leech on the rest pets and lysing on plants, but I still don't like it for the sake of my healing and vital herb. Poor plants trying so hard even if failing badly, at least they're nice to look at. If that rusty blade disintegrates my summons to chi particles just to pass them around and kills someone, I'll show it just what is my Enchanted Edge made of.

-Primal mobs hit hard! I hate that repair bill. (*Takes out Chihyu and stuns, Natures Vengeance+Absorb soul = mob is dead. No dmg received. Tries with Salvation's shield, Natures Vengeance+Absorb soul = mob is dead. 1+ 1+ 1+ some more +1 dmg received.*) Forget whatever I said, it was just me playing immortal and feeling OP in BH19 while farming nuemas and afterwards paying the repair bill with a pot I found lying around. If I want to play lazily in Primal world, I have better just team up with someone, mobs will die like flies and quests will take only half the time. Not that they take long anyway, which is good with so many dailys gathered at lvl100 and above.

-War Awatar Catalyst is boutique only...
-Primordial Blood is 2/day for lvl100 ppl... Could these be made from flowsilver coins too? Though it is a way to keep us gaining new things too fast like Morai influence and prestige. (Kind of goes to the next part below.)

A3:
-I'm out of quests on rebirth and was even more so after Winter Harbringer npc disappeared. There was this quest from Penguin mart shopkeeper (or something like that) that wasn't announced anywhere but gave great rewards on exp and additional Primordial Blood and Holy Pills daily. Some more/new/ANY daily questline to follow for exp would be nice. Well, I just don't like hypering, even if it is fast, rather be on my way on missions. And Manor of Justice quests get little bit repetitive until you get so used to it that you can think something else while toon can turn in quest as if on it's own.

-Cut in the 2nd rebirth legendary quest is disappointing, but that is just something that will be fixed eventually. I hope it happens while I'm still under lvl100 on 2nd rebirth, or someone better make the 3rd one available soon, because my questlist already has enough stuff stuck in there. Wait, it would be some wasted exp anyways if I pass 99, as that questline would be supposedly needed for the 3rd reawakening and Id have to finish it.

A4:
-I'd like updates on the rest of mystic pet summons as well, though I'm yet to get that primal world version of Chihyu to see how much more survivability it actually get's. As a friend pointed out, for Storm Mistress to actually live after boss aoes would make it great deal more useful, same with Salvation, even if I can sacrifice those for my own good with Energy Leech.

A5:
-No difficulties on the new Primal and post-Reawakening questlines, was very easy to follow them around. Some confusion on required arcane sky lvls to continue quest at first, until got used to that and now on mirage sky it displays more clearly as pop up notify.

-Hmm, about the, what was it again.. It's slowly coming back to me, yes, the Ancient tome. It was so much easier to understand than what I feared, thank you very much. I don't remember which historic lvl grants how many points, but in understanding how it generally works, no problems. Working on 3 levels, current and 2 past top lvls, it's mostly about how much exp is needed for leveling up any of the 3 and how many points that level will gain you. Someone had it explained clearly on forums. Nothing too complicated. Only thing I found myself considering now, if to start feeding exp to Book Demon right after lvl100 as all exp would be safe from death and I would maybe get little bit more exp from mobs than if I do the same right after lvl101.

-Leveling in general is just as difficult as I want to make it, even with the new content dropping me twice to lvl1.

Btw, forum avatar picture doesn't seem to distinguish I'm 2nd rebirth 75, but at least I have a picture right now and it's following right lvl as well. (EDIT: As I got to say that, it disappeared again )
I wonder if my English teacher would accept this text instead of my homework...

Pro tip, Sparkie. Never say the word "Soon" to us, and even bad news is still communication with us. We like communication. We want to know this forum is still read by the GMs who are taking in the feedback.

This thread is a good start, but to a lot of us we're wondering just how far this information can take you. I guess we'll all see, hm?

Q1:What did you like?

The main thing I enjoyed was the rebirth quest line, simply because the quest text was actually translated appropriately. I didn't notice any grammar/spelling errors and the story actually made sense without much thought.

The phases of unlocking areas/quests in the primal world was also a nice touch.

Q2:What did you dislike?

Finding out Morai teleportation being restricted to level 95+.

Q3:What could've made it better?

Better translation of the primal world quest line.

Q4:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?

More things that need to be unlocked by the whole server.

Q5:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?

Not particularly, no.

1. war avatar cards, interesting stuff

2. too many dailies from what i've heard and read, i havent done em yet XD

3. ...

4. I like to see new armors and weapons in the near future, dont need to be better than the r999 we now have, maybe upgrades of morai, r8 recast, nirvana or total new ones and i'll be motivated to play b:laugh

5. not realy

I have been giving some of these questions quite the thought as of late.

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Q:What did you like?

As others have pointed out, I really love the new instance FSP, not too hard, but also not so ridiculously easy that it isn't even funny. (It does one hell of a job of making you want more of it, which is what delta use to do for me... use being the keyword.

I also liked that while there were a few bugs, they all seemed relatively minor for the most part.

I like the new passives from primal world.

I also agree with venus and the 500k return on lunar nights.

The war avatar system.

4x exp once reincarnated.

Q:What did you dislike?

(Although I really love fsp) It has killed the 'effectiveness' of earning any sort of money from delta. It was already hard to get a squad for it due to the removal of coins, and now the time it takes to do the place is really... lame... especially considering the 'return/rewards' for finishing it. The only upside to delta is while your trying to level back up to 100, the 10m exp is nice, but with the rise of token prices, the instance has lost pretty much all of it's appeal that it used to have on me.

Q:What could've made it better?

This is a hard question to answer, as overall, I feel that you all did quite an amazing job with it. (at least this is my opinion)

EDIT: Of course don't get me wrong there are indeed a few 'flaws'/things that could have arguably been 'given more thought'... but overall I am fairly satisfied with the expansion.

Q:What kind of content would you like to see in the future?

(Since I have already made suggestions about bm's.... I wont ask for content for them in this thread/post)

I for one would like it if you all make another place like NW, (as most of us are pve/free to play players) if you would slowly let us all get introduced to it, allow for 'baby steps' give us all time to 'learn' the new "instance." (some may point out that there was TW, that should have been 'our introduction' to it, but I do disagree with that statement especially considering how... different the two places are.... so whatever the content may be, I hope we get to make 'baby steps' into it, and get our feet wet if it drastically changes the landscape of what is the 'norm' for most people.

I also would like to see updated content for the aforementioned 'dislike' about delta, I know a majority of people prefer nirvana, but I for one would like delta to get changed.

Q:Was it difficult to progress through the new content?

Nope, not really, I think the hardest thing is just figuring out what to priortize over other things that you want to do/need to do.