Make Nw Tokens Tradable Or Purchaseable

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

And I don't want to sound rude, but people that can't attend NW probably don't TW either, so what's the point of complaining about R9rr upgrade stuff if they don't TW? R9rr is way higher than what is needed to do any PVE in the game.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »

if you can't attend NW due to time zone, then you obviously cant attend TW either so... you want NW updates for pve? b:puzzled I mean, sure, ok but still... you could think of it as pvp gear that you can't get without bathing your hands in blood or w/e xD

Fun fact, TW actually has different time slots, compared to the farming instance NW. And open map PK isn't limited by times.

NW tokens should definitely be tradable or farmable by another means.

Some people don't want to spend their Friday nights in NW, Saturday night in TW and their Sunday night in NW again. That's just way too much time on this game, especially in the summer.


NW isn't really fun anymore since the PVP aspect is gone. The majority of people hop from 1 map to another farming points so instances are empty or have 1-3 people.

My personal preference would be to move one of the NW to another time slot. This more-or-less resolves the issue while getting more people to play rather than buy.

Mazumii - Dreamweaver wrote: »

what they should of done is make the cannies/ raps untradeable, if made with supply tokens. that way rap and cannie price would still be a mean to get money and nirvana wouldn't of died. And you ppl who say "i can't play nw so i guess i wont be able to get my gear"....do it the way we had to before nw, do nirvi runs with faction or open a cat shop and start merching to buy the rap and cannies.b:angryb:angry i hate noobsb:angry

It's not just about cannies/raptures, it's cause people that can't attend NW cannot upgrade their gears/ornaments like the R9 ring, tome etc... since they need tokens to do it.

Cannies/raptures price dropped so low that people can farm other stuff to make money and buy them, same for SoW, but tokens cannot be buy.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

But since the SoW are tradable what they should do is to change the amount of tokens needed for SoW, example:

To recast the R9 ring, 1080 tokens are needed and 87 SoW + the money, than they should change the 1080 tokens for 22 more SoW, so 109 SoW total + the money, no tokens needed.

So that way EU people (and/or Aussie people) could just farm/merch and buy SoW and be able to upgrade their stuff.

Or they could let the way with tokens and SoW and add a way with only SoW, so people that can't attend NW can still get the upgrades a other way.

Just wanted to point out that this is probabily the best (read as: most reasonable) suggestion I've read on these four pages (since it actually is a suggestion and not just a complaint or redundant same-thing), and I never saw anyone else quote it/were instead all sore about the part before it...
(Although, when I first skimmed it over I thought I saw something about also being able to decompose SoW back into tokens, but it's still fine without that)

Also, Zheii when you said that 'not everyone lives in the EU' I wasn't sure for a moment if you meant EU as in Europe, or EU as in etats-unis (states united aka United States) because of how it was phrased... but then I figured it made little sense for you to be spontaneousily talking in french and askdngsdg OTL ...

Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »

Switch Friday 8pm NW and Saturday 2pm TW plzkthx.

I'm on board. Let's go with it.

Why not create a specific poll, choose one time slot only for one nw time and day change, see what the outcome is. If you get 200~500 people replying to the time changes, sure that is something. If you get 20~40 people, doubt that change will take any notice.

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why not create a specific poll, choose one time slot only for one nw time and day change, see what the outcome is. If you get 200~500 people replying to the time changes, sure that is something. If you get 20~40 people, doubt that change will take any notice.

It's really not a majority of people that come on the forum, plus it was proven in the past that some people log 20 alts to vote when there's a vote.

That's because they're not going to look into this. It might be good for some players but will cause upheaval in the economy that they are not going to want to deal with.

I'm not one of the "those evil businesses have no right to try to make a profit" people but I do understand that they measure in-game decisions, first and foremost, by how those changes will affect the business. Every change has a ripple effect. If they think the change will result in less income, they're not going to do it.

Look if you can't attend then oh welllllll,to me NW is boring and playing at night at 11:20-1:20 am is kinda sucky,maybe if it was 10:20 pm my time it would be ok because usually after 10 I lose intrest of the game by then.Im sure if tokens were able to trade you will see a spike back up on raps and canny and everything else as well,not to bad though but could go back to the same ole same ole reverse on "canny and rap to high we can't afford our gear" then we will have that qq mess like the op qq

Karmiel - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It would increase income from those who can attend buy either selling or moving a time slot.

They would make more money doing this.


I do not think people understand how many none US people play the game.

Just check around your factions for the results.

It's not about how many US or non-US people that play the game.

EU people (and others) have complain since the start of the game about the events time, nothing has never have been done to find a solution about it cause there's no solution about it, there's no time that will please everyone.

Majority of people complaining about NW time do complain cause they cannot get the items required to upgrade their stuff or complain cause they lose a way to make money.

Let's be honest at that point, it's not a huge money maker anymore, the cost of pots and charms for 2 hours vs the profit is not that huge, some people would made more money by farming TT or w/e during 2 hours.

So people that complain cause they cannot make money with NW, please stop it cause NW is not anymore a huge money maker, people could make the same amount of money in the same time by doing something else.

People complaining about the tokens cause they can't upgrade their stuff, at that point you know they won't make a EU time for NW, people have been complaining about events time since the start of the game and PWI never have do a move to change that, so beside complain about it knowing it won't change try to put your energy to find a idea of what could be done to fix the issue without needed to change the time of the event.

Like I did, I suggested that they add a way to upgrade the items with only SoW (they can let the tokens+SoW way). Only Veneir did comment on that suggestion cause the rest was too busy to spend their energy at complaining.

I didn't liked the idea of making tokens tradable, but at least I did make a other suggestion.

EDIT: I know it's not all EU people that complain about events time for the money, I know some just complain cause they would like to do the event for fun, but those people know that nevermind the time of the event, there will always be unhappy people.

P.s: When I say EU people a mean all non US people.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

I don't understand people that did R9rr their char(s) on a server that is not on their time zone than complain about the events time.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. Typical Bella statement.

Perfect World INTERNATIONAL. And yet someone from Australia can't access what is arguably the most important weekly event of the game. There is no time-zone for them. In fact, the European servers were merged because there wasn't enough players to warrant for two servers.

The fact is, the best PWI gaming is arguably still in the American time zone servers because of nature of the player base in those servers.

If PWI wants to truly be international, they need to stop thinking "segregation" and be international in all the servers they have now.

I speak from someone on the West Coast who always feel for my dedicated non-North American friends who stay up to 2am or get up at 5am to attend NW and TW every weekend. There ought to be a recognition that they belong in the American Servers as a vital part of the community.

(and think about this, if all the internationals left the American servers, what would become of gaming a couple hours after reset? might as well have maintenance every evening, since PWI won't be making much money during those times.)

International PLAYERS > time zone servers. Don't force them out.

Miss_menace - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm not surprised you don't understand. Typical Bella statement.

Perfect World INTERNATIONAL. And yet someone from Australia can't access what is arguably the most important weekly event of the game. There is no time-zone for them. In fact, the European servers were merged because there wasn't enough players to warrant for two servers.

The fact is, the best PWI gaming is arguably still in the American time zone servers because of nature of the player base in those servers.

If PWI wants to truly be international, they need to stop thinking "segregation" and be international in all the servers they have now.

I speak from someone on the West Coast who always feel for my dedicated non-North American friends who stay up to 2am or get up at 5am to attend NW and TW every weekend. There ought to be a recognition that they belong in the American Servers as a vital part of the community.

(and think about this, if all the internationals left the American servers, what would become of gaming a couple hours after reset? might as well have maintenance every evening, since PWI won't be making much money during those times.)

International PLAYERS > time zone servers. Don't force them out.

English comprehension FAIL

Perfect World International does not mean International version of Perfect World. Perfect World International is a Name not a Description. PWI was released specifically for the North American Population. All you have to do is look at their World Based English Site. PWRD.COM.

If people choose to play a game that is not even based on their own continent much less time zone, that is there problem and there is no valid reason for a company to adjust anything for someone that is not even part of their market.

Stop crying about playing games not even meant for your time zone BECAUSE WALMART IS RUNNING OUT OF DIAPERS

HEHE reading thru 6 pages of this and there are a much easier solution for people that want to buy the token, for whatever the reason is, put it in the BOUNTIQUE as a token pack like mirage. That way people love to farm for their gears can go farm and those that want to buy their way up, max out your credit card, both side happy b:laugh

Salari - Raging Tide wrote: »

If people choose to play a game that is not even based on their own continent much less time zone, that is there problem and there is no valid reason for a company to adjust anything for someone that is not even part of their market.

Let's see how PWI would be if suddenly all the non US players would quit the game. It would be pretty dead around here.

Oh, PWE doesn't and shouldn't care about non US players but they sure love the money they get from them don't they?

Whilst I agree that events such as the Tiger Event, CoA, TW and whatever else shouldn't need adjustment for other continent timezone a lot of US people fail to understand that NW is not the same as those events.

Yes, I don't deny that there are a lot of people who whine about those events (CoA, TW etc.) but there are some valid reasons that other non US players bring to the table concerning NW.


These are;
1. It runs twice a week so why does it have to be the exact same time both times?
2. Supply Tokens are needed in order to upgrade gear pieces which makes NW a "farming instance" of some sort.
3. Previously, with the exception of a few gear pieces (CoA rings?), all gear could be farmed regardless of timezone. Nirvana was free 24/7 for people to farm their Uncanny/Rapture. Warsong is free 24/7 for people to farm badges and molds. Twilight Temple is free 24/7 for people to get their materials. See what I'm talking about?
4. Some people genuinely can't participate to NW (work, classes, etc.)

I liked Bella's suggestion. Make these items farmable in some day outside NW. Make it harder and take longer but make it exist.