Make Nw Tokens Tradable Or Purchaseable

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  • ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I liked Bella's suggestion. Make these items farmable in some day outside NW. Make it harder and take longer but make it exist.[/COLOR]

    i still think its not a good idea. nirvana mats in NW was a huge mistake. why make that mistake again? keep the mats in their own instance.
  • HerbShopper - Dreamweaver
    HerbShopper - Dreamweaver Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    No one does Nirvana, so if they refuse to take out the raps and cannies from the forges.


    Then allow us to farm Tokens there at least the instance would not be there not being used.


    Or Remove the Raps and cannies from the forges, then add the tokens to either another instance to be farmed change NW time of one NW a week or place them in the boutique.


    There are many options for this PWI could do this its not a big change its simple and would take them one brain storming session to come to a resolution.


    I know this industry there is always a possible solution.


    I would love to see someone from PWI step up to this challenge.


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  • Karmiel - Dreamweaver
    Karmiel - Dreamweaver Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Agreed b:victory
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    So you have access to demographic information from PWE? A lot of you are taking what others like me are saying the wrong way.

    If the roles where switched(alot games in the past i played were) I would not be complaining. I would just deal with it.

    Way to ignore the rest of my post xD
    I'm not planning to upgrade my gear with the NW version but I support what the rest have been trying to push forward which you seemed to ignore completely seeing as you just comment on that part.


    i still think its not a good idea. nirvana mats in NW was a huge mistake. why make that mistake again? keep the mats in their own instance.

    NW would still be the fastest and easiest way to get them. If farming said material was harder and took longer outside NW, it wouldn't necessarily hurt NW because people always/usually choose the fastest & easiest way to acquire something.

    I could bring up some ideas I thought but meh, not like it matters.

    The thing with Nirvana and NW is that the forge rates & fees are ridiculous. If they had balanced that, people might have not really abandoned Nirvana then. I don't remember exactly, but I think PWCN have different rates on the forges don't they?
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    but I think PWCN have different rates on the forges don't they?

    I think that the difference is the coin fee but I believe that inflation is way worse in the chinese server; enough to justify the ridiculous prices in the faction base forges.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I think that the difference is the coin fee but I believe that inflation is way worse in the chinese server; enough to justify the ridiculous prices in the faction base forges.

    Yeah that's true too.
    It's off topic though but I guess we'll never see a "fix' on that part either. I'm talking about various items in base that have a ridiculous price >.>
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I don't get why some people are so freakishly hellbent on keeping the current times only.

    Let's face it, any company not meeting the needs of their customers outside their main target range is doing an awful job when costs are about zero. They would have to make one small change/addon and so many people would approve.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    i still think its not a good idea. nirvana mats in NW was a huge mistake. why make that mistake again? keep the mats in their own instance.

    I didn't suggested to put the tokens in other instances, I suggested that they add a way to upgrade the stuff with only SoW, so people will be able to upgrade their stuff buy buying SoW if they cannot make the event for any reasons.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I didn't suggested to put the tokens in other instances, I suggested that they add a way to upgrade the stuff with only SoW, so people will be able to upgrade their stuff buy buying SoW if they cannot make the event for any reasons.

    This would be a good alternative, aside out of the time zone people that work at nights or have night school may
    Way to ignore the rest of my post xD

    I was not ignoring it, but I will reply below
    These are;
    1. It runs twice a week so why does it have to be the exact same time both times?
    2. Supply Tokens are needed in order to upgrade gear pieces which makes NW a "farming instance" of some sort.
    3. Previously, with the exception of a few gear pieces (CoA rings?), all gear could be farmed regardless of timezone. Nirvana was free 24/7 for people to farm their Uncanny/Rapture. Warsong is free 24/7 for people to farm badges and molds. Twilight Temple is free 24/7 for people to get their materials. See what I'm talking about?
    4. Some people genuinely can't participate to NW (work, classes, etc.)


    1. Its called prime time. The same reasoning for prime time television shows. You want to have events like this when the majority of the population is on.

    2 & 3. There is nothing in the Niv forges that is required to make your own gear that you cant get in other instances. It is only required for making upgraded rings, tomes,hats,capes and Warsoul Recast or for a cheaper alternative to the other instances( Niv, TT, Lunar, Base instance) for making R8R gear, R9S2 and Warsoul weapons. WS weapons are more vanity or "just something to farm" items after G16 niv and R9S3 was released otherwise people would be running around with those weapons instead.(I am slowly farming a ws weapon just to troll)

    Gear can still be farmed in those instances, the only obstacle is people forming their own squads to to it. The only change in Niv is farming to make gear instead of farming for profit. With the lack of hardly anyone (Atleast on RT) wc for Niv squads, it was mostly for profit.

    4. I agree with you there, but that does not warrant changing a time or adding another slot for a possible minority amount of players. As I said before, I have played several different games myself in the past where certain events and such was not availible to me because of work, time zone or even on the other side of the world. But I just dealt with it as I knew what I was getting into when I began playing.


    The end game instances have not even come close to catching up with the current gear, just upgrading a few items is more "epeen" than needed in this game at this time from NW
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  • ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I think that the difference is the coin fee but I believe that inflation is way worse in the chinese server; enough to justify the ridiculous prices in the faction base forges.

    forges in PWCN are different. yes cannies and raps cost more supply tokens. and lot of items need more farm to craft in those forges. but, they have server vs server wars, = more ppl = more tokens than us.
    but anyway, we should not try to compare our version with chinese one on the farming part. like a chinese friend told me "in chinese games, if you don't cash hard, you're out. if you don't use bots to farm 24/7, you 're out"
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    forges in PWCN are different. yes cannies and raps cost more supply tokens. and lot of items need more farm to craft in those forges. but, they have server vs server wars, = more ppl = more tokens than us.
    but anyway, we should not try to compare our version with chinese one on the farming part. like a chinese friend told me "in chinese games, if you don't cash hard, you're out. if you don't use bots to farm 24/7, you 're out"

    ah thanks for the info. tbh, creating a bot to farm tt would be a far greater and more interesting challenge than actually farming TT... wtb bot crafting mmob:dirty
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  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    To be realistic not everyone can be pleased.
    You can't change a time once its set because it will enrage other people

    And to make the tokens trade-able will cause a domino effect
    Change it to trade-able --> less SoW cost
    Less Sow cost --> Angry NWers
    Angry Nwers --> Less people who participate in NW because they see no point
    Less people --> Dead event
    Dead event --> Less coin
    Less coin --> More poor people
    More poor people --> More whiners
    More whiners --> Rage Quitting
    Rage Quitting--> Lose players
    Lose players --> More Cash Shop sales
    More Cash Shop sales --> Richer get Richer, poorer get poorer
    Richer get Richer, poorer get poorer --> More rage quitting
    More rage quitting --> More cash shoppers than free players
    More cash shoppers than free players --> Less items being sold
    Less items being sold --> Cash shoppers only shop for themselves
    Cash shoppers only shop for themselves --> PW becomes more desperate

    PW becomes more desperate --> More sales and more giveaways
    More sales and more giveaways --> PW loses more money
    PW loses more money --> Dead game

    (Alternate Ending)
    PW becomes more desperate --> Prices rise in shop
    Prices rise in shop --> PW loses more money because no one's buying
    PW loses more money because no one's buying --> Dead game
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Dead event --> Less coin

    not really, just more coin for those that do the event (and potentially less charm costs). which could result in more people doing the event. not sure how tradable tokens will affect the SoW cost either.
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  • ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver
    ApocaIypto - Dreamweaver Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    ah thanks for the info. tbh, creating a bot to farm tt would be a far greater and more interesting challenge than actually farming TT... wtb bot crafting mmob:dirty

    if most DQ has no coins value, is because players on chinese version were using bots to farm. and even tho it was not the case, the change applied here as well
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited August 2013

    1. Its called prime time. The same reasoning for prime time television shows. You want to have events like this when the majority of the population is on.
    They've had events (including TWs) at 2pm or so in the past so I went with this in mind. Not every event and thing they do happens at their prime times.

    2 & 3. There is nothing in the Niv forges that is required to make your own gear that you cant get in other instances. It is only required for making upgraded rings, tomes,hats,capes and Warsoul Recast or for a cheaper alternative to the other instances( Niv, TT, Lunar, Base instance) for making R8R gear, R9S2 and Warsoul weapons. WS weapons are more vanity or "just something to farm" items after G16 niv and R9S3 was released otherwise people would be running around with those weapons instead.(I am slowly farming a ws weapon just to troll)

    Gear can still be farmed in those instances, the only obstacle is people forming their own squads to to it. The only change in Niv is farming to make gear instead of farming for profit. With the lack of hardly anyone (Atleast on RT) wc for Niv squads, it was mostly for profit.

    I was talking about the NW exclusive gear or upgrades if you will that specifically require supply tokens, among other things such as SoWs. This leads me to point 4.

    4. I agree with you there, but that does not warrant changing a time or adding another slot for a possible minority amount of players. As I said before, I have played several different games myself in the past where certain events and such was not availible to me because of work, time zone or even on the other side of the world. But I just dealt with it as I knew what I was getting into when I began playing.
    ..the thing is, nobody knew about the NW until it was announced/released years later.
    I joined this game when it was released knowing I won't be able to do TW or the other events but I could farm the gear I wanted at any time.
    It's not that I specifically want the NW upgrades but I'm supporting the other people on this particular thing. Unlike some nice ring CoA gives or whatever, the NW upgrades are pretty important if you seriously want to compete at endgame.


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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    They've had events (including TWs) at 2pm or so in the past so I went with this in mind. Not every event and thing they do happens at their prime times.

    I don't think they did put TW at 2pm to be friendly with the rest of the world, but cause they wasn't able to put it at 8pm, if we check the events schedule:

    Monday: Tiger event
    Tuesday: Jungle event
    Wednesday: COA
    Thursday: Tournament
    Friday: NW
    Saturday: N/A
    Sunday: NW

    Even if they wanted they could not put the TW at 8pm on a other day than Saturday and before NW was release majority of TW was Friday and Saturday 8pm, rarely at 2pm. (Well at least on HL, since people bids to get 8pm wars)
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