Cool Story-2 without naming and shaming .

Ulquiorraa__ - Raging Tide · August 2013

Hello ,

I'm r9rr sin +12 daggers josd gear .. I was told Assassin is best pvp class 1 vs 1 if played well .

Then those ppl in our server were calling this guy "best sin " .... "someone wont name".

I made r9rr psy cause i felt its best pvp class and would be fun to play it ...

after about few days only playing this psy this was the result in 1 vs 1 :

http://goo.gl/whgbRQ

Buff_me - Harshlands · August 2013

His name DOESN'T rhyme with cactus.

Anyway, Ulq, you won't be getting any positive feedback on forums for that. Atleast not at general subsection.

Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary · August 2013

And to the lower depths it shall reside!

PsychicTuna - Harshlands · August 2013

Demon Psy... b:spit

Buff_me - Harshlands · August 2013

PsychicTuna - Harshlands wrote: »

Demon Psy... b:spit

Don't they have a higher spike damage?

Always thought so.

PsychicTuna - Harshlands · August 2013

Buff_me - Harshlands wrote: »

Don't they have a higher spike damage?

Always thought so.

20% crit rate for 15 seconds from Tide Spirit and 30% chance for 50% crit rate for 4 seconds from Landslide for demon are the only 2 skills that are decent...

Vs.

1 extra purify from Bubble of Life which can be combined with Expel to give a second psychic will, 2 seconds longer immunity for psychic will, 1 second +/- for charm cooldowns for Vigors, Glacial shards immobilize lasting 2 seconds longer when it procs, Soul of Silence lasting 2 seconds more, Soul of Stunning gaining 1 second more stun for every 4k Soulforce instead of 5k, Soul of Retaliation healing 15% HP when cast, DoT's hitting harder, 20% chance to get 30 chi for Spirit Blast, Soulburn lasting 2 seconds longer, Disturb Soul lasting 3 seconds longer, and 50% chance of not using a spark for earth vector which would mean you can Psychic Will if needed, Disturb Soul or Soulburn.

Buff_me - Harshlands · August 2013

PsychicTuna - Harshlands wrote: »

20% crit rate for 15 seconds from Tide Spirit and 30% chance for 50% crit rate for 4 seconds from Landslide for demon are the only 2 skills that are decent...

Vs.

1 extra purify from Bubble of Life which can be combined with Expel to give a second psychic will, 2 seconds longer immunity for psychic will, 1 second +/- for charm cooldowns for Vigors, Glacial shards immobilize lasting 2 seconds longer when it procs, Soul of Silence lasting 2 seconds more, Soul of Stunning gaining 1 second more stun for every 4k Soulforce instead of 5k, Soul of Retaliation healing 15% HP when cast, DoT's hitting harder, 20% chance to get 30 chi for Spirit Blast, Soulburn lasting 2 seconds longer, Disturb Soul lasting 3 seconds longer, and 50% chance of not using a spark for earth vector which would mean you can Psychic Will if needed, Disturb Soul or Soulburn.

Since Riging Tide #1 Psy is demon and he has never had problems with survival, I guess demon is a good option too.

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver · August 2013

PsychicTuna - Harshlands wrote: »

20% crit rate for 15 seconds from Tide Spirit and 30% chance for 50% crit rate for 4 seconds from Landslide for demon are the only 2 skills that are decent... earth debuff is cool

Vs.

1 extra purify from Bubble of Life which can be combined with Expel to give a second psychic will leaving your genie depleted and generally *** if you get interrupted/lag,

2 seconds longer immunity for psychic will, 1 second +/- for charm cooldowns for Vigors, Glacial shards immobilize lasting 2 seconds longer when it procs, Soul of Silence lasting 2 seconds more, Soulburn lasting 2 seconds longer, cool minor stuff but not great, demon has nice perks too

Soul of Stunning gaining 1 second more stun for every 4k Soulforce instead of 5k, edmon gets a bonus too so it's not that badSoul of Retaliation healing 15% HP when cast omg 1.5-3k hp, DoT's hitting harder ...lol...,

20% chance to get 30 chi for Spirit Blast, that's nice Disturb Soul lasting 3 seconds longer, and 50% chance of not using a spark for earth vector which would mean you can Psychic Will if needed wouldn't rely on a 50% to psy will, Disturb Soul eerm 30chi? or Soulburn.

btw I'm sage. but I keep thinking that demon provides what psy's lack, spike damage. a few minor boosts aren't game changing.

Zsw - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Crits make major differences end game. Quality > Quantity.

Yes, Sage psychics are good at CC support, and have better survival, but those are small differences. Good luck killing anything end game with no crits at all.

HESOKA - Raging Tide · August 2013

Ulquiorraa__ - Raging Tide wrote: »

Hello ,

I'm r9rr sin +12 daggers josd gear .. I was told Assassin is best pvp class 1 vs 1 if played well .

Then those ppl in our server were calling this guy "best sin " .... "someone wont name".

I made r9rr psy cause i felt its best pvp class and would be fun to play it ...

after about few days only playing this psy this was the result in 1 vs 1 :

http://goo.gl/whgbRQ

OMG Uliquira in black Vodoooo!!! No wayyy!! Gosh i am impressed!!! your are improving very well! Keep it Up Bro - LMAO - Fail a-ss-

Sister_Warui - Raging Tide · August 2013

lol at people thinking sage psys do not crit enough. Just...just no.

Zsw - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Compared to Demon, Sage psys do not crit enough. The boost from Demon is enough to double or triple your base crit rate.

Desdi - Sanctuary · August 2013

Let's just agree that gear + skill > cultivation? because most of the time it's the player behind the toon (*cough* and gear), not the cultivation they chose :P

Sister_Warui - Raging Tide · August 2013

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Compared to Demon, Sage psys do not crit enough. The boost from Demon is enough to double or triple your base crit rate.

This is true. They DO have a way better spike crit chance. Demon psys out DD me in the general scope of things. End of story.

But I am not arguing that. I am arguing against the part where you said we do not crit ENOUGH. On average I crit 1 in 5 shots. And with the long stun times psys can produce + my extended sage Tide spirit I can literally run through every high power/immob skill i have. It will be enough. Right timing/chain and all that. Plus more survivability and heals/2 purify.

You said it yourself. Quality > Quantity.

Zsw - Dreamweaver · August 2013

20% crit? Full r9rr psychics only have 12% if built defensively to not get 1 shot in 1v1.

However, my calculation are for pre-NW gears, and I don't care enough about PWI atm to redo my calculation to include NW gears. So if you are using NW gears, then it is pointless for me to continue discussing. Also, my calculation assumes full r9rr+12 and full josd.

If you do not use NW gears, then 12% is not 1 in 5, more like 1 in 8. Even if we assume you are using your fastest skill which gives you 1 hit every 2 seconds, in 14 seconds you can get in 7 hits. One of it will crit on average.

However, it does not make sense to discuss how many crits you will get in 14 seconds, since you really only have 10 seconds to out DD their charm. That is unless, you get a charm bypass. But you don't have the demon crit boost. Having the demon crit boost grants them a higher chance of actually landing a bypass. Also, some classes cannot be bypassed by a psychic.

In 10 seconds, you can get 5 hits. Even lower chance that one of them will crit. Now, not considering the fact that it takes a lot of effort to get someone stunned in SoS in the first place, not many classes can die in 5 regular hits, especially if they have a genie. That gives a even greater need to get multiple crits in those 5 hits.

Now, you could use tide spirit, which will give you alot more hits. However, then it gets complicated. We will then have to discuss every single possible scenario, which is infinitely many. So I am just using a basic calculation to simplify it. People will save up their genie for your tide spirit combo, so you probably won't get to combo every single stun you get.

While Demon can possibly kill someone (via bypass) or force a genie without tide spirit, sage is much less likely.

Can Sage kill? Yes eventually. But the difference is, Demon get less opportunity, but they seize every one of them. Sage gets more opportunity, but many of them are wasted.

Is Sage better in mass pk? Probably. You won't get to spam tide spirit or landslide alot in mass pk.

Both are viable playstyles. But a Sage cannot possibly compare to a demon playstyle, because Sage just doesn't crit nearly enough to use every opportunity they get.

And it is my opinion that a good opportunity seized is better than many opportunities, but wasted. Which brings about the Quality > Quantity.

tsyfall · August 2013

I'm going to agree with Zsw on most of his points there. Ultimately I think Demon is the better style for going up to the front and blasting everything away.

Demon isn't as great as Sage in group PvP, let's face it. Sage has so many more squad-oriented skills. Sage is demonstrably good for support. It even has AoE purify guaranteed - something another class cannot claim. However, like the pure-support cleric that was once so popular, it relies on its squad to kill its opponents.

On the other hand, Demon psychics don't have to tank their opponents in mass pk, or wait for assist. They just kill them and move on. Hmmm.

Demon is definitely more offensive. A crit on a magical class is sometimes going to do more damage than a long set up for damage but without a crit. Endgame full JosD, there's a reason sins and archers have so much crit: They cannot do without it. This applies to other classes as well. How do barbs get a kill? Crits/zerks. How does a wizard bypass? Crit. How does a psychic get a kill? Crit. This is true when you have endgame JosD, where everyone's defense is so high that you cannot kill under "normal conditions" - you need luck, or special circumstances that either you set up or your opponent maneuvered him/herself into.

Speaking from experience, I've found that defensively, demon has better options. This is not inherent in the skills themselves but rather in the playstyle. Endgame full +12 Josd, I can pretty much easily tank a sage psychic in white voodoo by spamming mdef charms and locking. This does not apply to demon psychics. I may actually be forced to use defensive skills if they get crits, which, as a demon, is fairly easy to do. Because demon's offense is so powerful, it actually serves as its defense as well.'

Furthermore, with experienced endgame opponents, Demon is obviously the better option. Sage requires significant setup which is predictable and oftentimes easy to foil, interrupt, or otherwise render useless. However, since crits do not require setup (other than using 1 skill), they are much harder to predict and counter. An experienced player is going to have a lot harder time dealing with random damage than dealing with a setup that is predictable.

In my opinion the last argument has the most weight. Endgame, it's relatively easy to kill inexperienced players, no matter which cultivation.

A katana is good for helping you fight. A vegetable knife is good for making good food to keep your division's morale up. A katana will slice a melon in half just as easily as a vegetable knife. But what happens when you go up against a samurai? When you meet an experienced player, ultimately, demon-crit based build is superior for defeating them.

PsychicTuna - Harshlands · August 2013

tsyfall wrote: »

I'm going to agree with Zsw on most of his points there. Ultimately I think Demon is the better style for going up to the front and blasting everything away.

Demon isn't as great as Sage in group PvP, let's face it. Sage has so many more squad-oriented skills. Sage is demonstrably good for support. It even has AoE purify guaranteed - something another class cannot claim. However, like the pure-support cleric that was once so popular, it relies on its squad to kill its opponents.

On the other hand, Demon psychics don't have to tank their opponents in mass pk, or wait for assist. They just kill them and move on. Hmmm.

Demon is definitely more offensive. A crit on a magical class is sometimes going to do more damage than a long set up for damage but without a crit. Endgame full JosD, there's a reason sins and archers have so much crit: They cannot do without it. This applies to other classes as well. How do barbs get a kill? Crits/zerks. How does a wizard bypass? Crit. How does a psychic get a kill? Crit. This is true when you have endgame JosD, where everyone's defense is so high that you cannot kill under "normal conditions" - you need luck, or special circumstances that either you set up or your opponent maneuvered him/herself into.

Speaking from experience, I've found that defensively, demon has better options. This is not inherent in the skills themselves but rather in the playstyle. Endgame full +12 Josd, I can pretty much easily tank a sage psychic in white voodoo by spamming mdef charms and locking. This does not apply to demon psychics. I may actually be forced to use defensive skills if they get crits, which, as a demon, is fairly easy to do. Because demon's offense is so powerful, it actually serves as its defense as well.'

Furthermore, with experienced endgame opponents, Demon is obviously the better option. Sage requires significant setup which is predictable and oftentimes easy to foil, interrupt, or otherwise render useless. However, since crits do not require setup (other than using 1 skill), they are much harder to predict and counter. An experienced player is going to have a lot harder time dealing with random damage than dealing with a setup that is predictable.

In my opinion the last argument has the most weight. Endgame, it's relatively easy to kill inexperienced players, no matter which cultivation.

A katana is good for helping you fight. A vegetable knife is good for making good food to keep your division's morale up. A katana will slice a melon in half just as easily as a vegetable knife. But what happens when you go up against a samurai? When you meet an experienced player, ultimately, demon-crit based build is superior for defeating them.

If you have to spam m.def charms against a WV sage psy your both doing it wrong...

Edit: Unless your in aps gear then i can understand but any other class should not have a problem tanking a WV psy...

tsyfall · August 2013

PsychicTuna - Harshlands wrote: »

If you have to spam m.def charms against a WV sage psy your both doing it wrong...

Edit: Unless your in aps gear then i can understand but any other class should not have a problem tanking a WV psy...

I play DPH geared sin.
And technically I'm not the one doing the spamming - my autopot is. I'm too lazy to pot myself and clicking on pots wastes time that I could use to click other things.

GG f:meh

Zsw - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Even if you can tank, why wouldn't you spam it? ;o

Longknife - Harshlands · August 2013

A Sage Psy has a prayer vs a BM, a demon does not.
A Sage Psy can beat a demon barb, a demon Psy would typically lose.
A Sage Psy has a slight advantage vs. archer, a demon Psy would get absolutely eaten alive.
A Sage Psy has absolutely zero problem with a seeker, a demon would quickly find themselves out of options.
A Sage Psy would be able to combat a veno's multiple debuff/stun/bleed attempts, a demon would find themselves in trouble.
A Sage Psy can at least put up enough resistance vs. a mystic to buy enough time for help to arrive, a demon is gonna be screwed.
A Sage Psy can keep a wizard channeling slow as a snail for days, a demon will be on a time limit.
A Sage Psy would kick a Demon Psy's *** in 1v1.

And none of this even begins to touch on which one is better for group fights (most important part of the game), which no one is debating.

We're talking 5 second silence and 6 second charm tick vs. 3 second silence and 7 second charm tick.
We're talking 20 second physical resistance vs. 8.
We're talking all-around superior chi management vs. a version that literally builds chi slower AND bases much of it's gameplay around a skill that costs two sparks used by a class that typically NEEDS sparks just to stay alive.

There's an economic policy that basically says "don't put all your eggs in one basket" because if you do, you're royally screwed if something happens to that basket. This is demon Psy. Landslide is too short, both on duration and on range, to be reliable, and Tide Spirit is like the most obvious, predictable **** ever for anyone that fights you. All they need to know is that you're demon, and thus if they survive your Tide, they're golden. Aside from that you've got 2% more crit. Two.

This is downright baffling that people are sitting here not only defending the worst culti decision in the game, but also trying to claim it's superior to it's counterpart.

If you wanna suicide-all-in attack a single target before being dropped yourself, by all means, go demon. If you don't wanna suck, for the love of god, go sage.

PsychicTuna - Harshlands · August 2013

A WV psychic's damage is a joke pretty much now if they are +2 attack lvl sharded then it wouldn't. I just did a damage test against a R9 Bm with and without Mag marrow and i was hitting them for less than 1.5k with mag marrow and 2.5k with it off in WV in BV? 2.5k+ with Mag and 4.5k+ with it off. Though their only +3 refines atm and missing a mag neck.

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

We're talking 5 second silence and 6 second charm tick vs. 3 second silence and 7 second charm tick.

Or 14 seconds vs. 13 seconds charm tick if you use diminished vigor on someone.

Zsw - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

A Sage Psy has a prayer vs a BM, a demon does not.
A Sage Psy can beat a demon barb, a demon Psy would typically lose.
A Sage Psy has a slight advantage vs. archer, a demon Psy would get absolutely eaten alive.
A Sage Psy has absolutely zero problem with a seeker, a demon would quickly find themselves out of options.
A Sage Psy would be able to combat a veno's multiple debuff/stun/bleed attempts, a demon would find themselves in trouble.
A Sage Psy can at least put up enough resistance vs. a mystic to buy enough time for help to arrive, a demon is gonna be screwed.
A Sage Psy can keep a wizard channeling slow as a snail for days, a demon will be on a time limit.
A Sage Psy would kick a Demon Psy's *** in 1v1.

You have nothing to prove for any of these statements. I can go around and say the exact same thing, but switch the words Demon and Sage and it would look equally convincing.

tsyfall · August 2013

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

A Demon Psy has a prayer vs a BM, a sage does not.
A Demon Psy can beat a demon barb, a sage Psy would typically lose.
A Demon Psy has a slight advantage vs. archer, a sage Psy would get absolutely eaten alive.
A Demon Psy has absolutely zero problem with a seeker, a sage would quickly find themselves out of options.
A Demon Psy would be able to combat a veno's multiple debuff/stun/bleed attempts, a sage would find themselves in trouble.
A Demon Psy can at least put up enough resistance vs. a mystic to buy enough time for help to arrive, a sage is gonna be screwed.
A Demon Psy can keep a wizard channeling slow as a snail for days, a sage will be on a time limit.
A Demon Psy would kick a Sage Psy's *** in 1v1.

If you wanna sit-around-and-tank-till-you-die, by all means, go sage. If you don't wanna suck, for the love of god, go demon.

I absolutely agree with every single one of your points. You have provided proof, logical arguments, and personal experience. You have proved your point. Thank you for testifying.

b:cute

Bhavyy - Raging Tide · August 2013

So let me get this straight, you suck so bad at sin, one of the best 1v1 classes in the game even with your full Josd +12 end game and all that bs that you get but hurt when another lesser geared sin is considered better than you.
So you make a class that you yourself consider better than a sin and do the same, +12 it and Josd end game etc, and take a SS of you killing this lesser geared sin.

What is your point? What is your claim? You can cash shop or farm tt 24/7 like a boss?

Kastus is still the best sin on the server and you're still rubbish, and guess what, now even more people will make fun of you at how useless you are at psy.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver · August 2013

Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »

A Sage Psy has a prayer vs a BM, a demon does not.
A Sage Psy can beat a demon barb, a demon Psy would typically lose.
A Sage Psy has a slight advantage vs. archer, a demon Psy would get absolutely eaten alive.
A Sage Psy has absolutely zero problem with a seeker, a demon would quickly find themselves out of options.
A Sage Psy would be able to combat a veno's multiple debuff/stun/bleed attempts, a demon would find themselves in trouble.
A Sage Psy can at least put up enough resistance vs. a mystic to buy enough time for help to arrive, a demon is gonna be screwed.
A Sage Psy can keep a wizard channeling slow as a snail for days, a demon will be on a time limit.
A Sage Psy would kick a Demon Psy's *** in 1v1.

And none of this even begins to touch on which one is better for group fights (most important part of the game), which no one is debating.

We're talking 5 second silence and 6 second charm tick vs. 3 second silence and 7 second charm tick.
We're talking 20 second physical resistance vs. 8.
We're talking all-around superior chi management vs. a version that literally builds chi slower AND bases much of it's gameplay around a skill that costs two sparks used by a class that typically NEEDS sparks just to stay alive.

There's an economic policy that basically says "don't put all your eggs in one basket" because if you do, you're royally screwed if something happens to that basket. This is demon Psy. Landslide is too short, both on duration and on range, to be reliable, and Tide Spirit is like the most obvious, predictable **** ever for anyone that fights you. All they need to know is that you're demon, and thus if they survive your Tide, they're golden. Aside from that you've got 2% more crit. Two.

This is downright baffling that people are sitting here not only defending the worst culti decision in the game, but also trying to claim it's superior to it's counterpart.

If you wanna suicide-all-in attack a single target before being dropped yourself, by all means, go demon. If you don't wanna suck, for the love of god, go sage.

I know a Sage Psy that does that. He triple sparks>ADs>Psychic Will>Dew Stars all in the span of 5 seconds and goes for the kill. I would promptly kill him once it all wore off. Lulz were always had.

tsyfall · August 2013

Bhavyy - Raging Tide wrote: »

So let me get this straight, you suck so bad at sin, one of the best 1v1 classes in the game even with your full Josd +12 end game and all that bs that you get but hurt when another lesser geared sin is considered better than you.
So you make a class that you yourself consider better than a sin and do the same, +12 it and Josd end game etc, and take a SS of you killing this lesser geared sin.

What is your point? What is your claim? You can cash shop or farm tt 24/7 like a boss?

Kastus is still the best sin on the server and you're still rubbish, and guess what, now even more people will make fun of you at how useless you are at psy.

Oh, Bhavy, Bhavy, Bhavy. What a brave, righteous, and utterly foolish archer you are regarding Kastus. I highly recommend that you stop debating on which PK monkey is the better player - at the end of the day they're still monkeys.

So let me get this straight. Raging Tide's sins suck so bad at sin, one of the best 1v1 classes in the game, that RT's so called "best sin" uses Heart of Steel vs a psychic [3:05]. Then there's all that bs about no good players with the gear to compete, so everyone treats the baboons like gods and call them pro.

What is your point? What is your claim? You can talk Kastus up 24/7 like a boss all day but at the end of the day, the real best sins of RT don't even have endgame gear.

Kastus and Ulq are still pretty meh on the server. Maybe rubbish. Guess what, now even more people will laugh at how useless all this is.

Longknife - Harshlands · August 2013

Zsw - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You have nothing to prove for any of these statements. I can go around and say the exact same thing, but switch the words Demon and Sage and it would look equally convincing.

Except that I actually have experience in each of those fights. Do you?

Go fight a BM, see how much of a chance you get to Tide spirit.
Go fight a demon barb that knows how to use the demon chi taunt, see how much chi you have for using any chi skill period.
Go fight an archer, see how his anti-stun will quickly outlast your demon psys physical immunity ability.
Go fight a seeker, figure out wat do when you lose your physical immunity and he ADs your tide spirit + SoSt.
Veno sends nix at you and ticks your SoSt, what do. You try and tide spirit and get bewitched or stunned or IGED, wat do. Your chi gets eaten alive and you have no chance of rebuilding it, wat do.
Mystic debuffs you for their combo after knocking off SoST with their pet, what do?
Wiz I know from experience I get enough chi to keep me debuffed while still building my own, demon wouldn't be enough because you lack chi skills (spirit blast, chi skill, earth vector).
And sage vs demon, again, one singular Sosi proc is basically a charm tick, but only one of these two is purifying DoTs and building chi steadily. EITHER one can drop the other with tide spirit; the crit is moot.

You're LITERALLY basing your entire strategy around the ability to SoSt + Tide Spirit. Anything that drains chi, baits/resists stun or has some form of opportunity to resist that tide spirit window is going to drop you like a rock.

I'm sorry, but please name one psychic who rerolled demon after being sage. Now please consider how many you know that rerolled sage.

All I see is a bunch of armchair psychics who either don't play the class period or their experience is limited to this "JOSD full +12!!" Scenario that's only common to private servers, and even THEN the very same people are still admitting sage's superiority in group fights, which guess what: 90% of the game is group fights. The endgame setup for psy is exactly the same whether sage or demon: SoSt and tide spirit to get the kill. The difference is that while sage just barely pulls it off (but definitely does) with 2-3 seconds to spare, demon gets it with 5 seconds to spare! And this is what you want to sacrifice a ridiculous chunk of your defense for? REALLY?

You're advising people to roll demon because IF by some chance they manage to r9rr +12 full JOSD and fight an opponent with those exact same gears, offense is less stressful (but defense is MORE stressful). Meanwhile you fail to mention that for the other 99% of gear setups, demon is screwed. Terribly impractical and disingenuous advice is terrible.

PsychicTuna - Harshlands · August 2013

tsyfall wrote: »

Oh, Bhavy, Bhavy, Bhavy. What a brave, righteous, and utterly foolish archer you are regarding Kastus. I highly recommend that you stop debating on which PK monkey is the better player - at the end of the day they're still monkeys.

So let me get this straight. Raging Tide's sins suck so bad at sin, one of the best 1v1 classes in the game, that RT's so called "best sin" uses Heart of Steel vs a psychic [3:05]. Then there's all that bs about no good players with the gear to compete, so everyone treats the baboons like gods and call them pro.

What is your point? What is your claim? You can talk Kastus up 24/7 like a boss all day but at the end of the day, the real best sins of RT don't even have endgame gear.

Kastus and Ulq are still pretty meh on the server. Maybe rubbish. Guess what, now even more people will laugh at how useless all this is.

HoS could of been a mis-click seeing as it's right next to the attack button... But as to the psy? #1 worst psy ever...

SoST procs and then uses Psy Will, and is also in WV the entire fight.

tsyfall · August 2013

PsychicTuna - Harshlands wrote: »

HoS could of been a mis-click seeing as it's right next to the attack button... But as to the psy? #1 worst psy ever...

Pretty sure it wasn't a misclick considering a. he was already attacking the psychic with bow+range, and b. you can clearly see the icon of the Heart of Steel blinking on skillbar (i.e hes spam clicking it.)

I've watched his videos. Tell me the last time you saw a sin try to stun a psy through Purify Proc buff. Tell me the last time you said that sin was good.

In another video, the guy ticks this BM's charm in 2 hits... still takes like 5 minutes to kill him <_< lmao

PsychicTuna - Harshlands · August 2013

If you pay attention you see he's clicking the attack button then gets sealed and then clicks on HoS so a mis-click.

And did he do the stun when puri proc on in this vid or some other?

Kastus - Raging Tide · August 2013

Photo HERE

This is why he re-rolled a psy~!

i believe when u ask for 1v1 self buffs u go self buffs this is what happens when i catch him with self buffs b:laugh

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