TW 3rd season end map.

Gear doesn't seem to be the only problem, something simply doesn't add up - several factions had high numbers, some of them very well geared overall, yet they all failed to be dominant TW factions.

Mayhem supposedly has 80+ people for TWs atm yet still doesn't do well. So while I agree that one faction has held monopoly for a while now, I also agree with people who say that Mayhem doesn't know how to do TWs properly, suffering the same issues that i.e. Afterlife did - which is also why Mayhem vs Afterlife were good TWs since they were between two factions of equally skilled leadership.

Crimson is another faction that I've never seen do well unless they severly outnumber their opponent - i.e. Crimson beat Kylin consistently when it was 80v30 TW and lost consistently when it was 80vs60+ and it's not like Kylin outgeared them at that time, so it must mean Kylin had superior TW strategy.

I'd love to see 5-8 balanced factions fighting for the control over the map but that isn't likely to happen - so the other 2-3 factions with potential might as well look in the mirror and ask their leaders why they're failing to have a higher win rate even when their numbers and gear value increases.

P.S. I'm not merely implying leaders don't know proper strategies, ensuring that strategies are executed is a part of leadership as well - i.e. if you got cata barbs rather rpking and chasing ppl around while pulling cata, you aren't really going to accomplish much until those hot dog sellers learn what their role is in TW.

What is this topic about now?

charles wrote: »

Obviously about who knows how to play, who knows how to tw,how you should play game,how you should play your char,who c$ and who doesnt,who works and who get his c$ from his family,who will make the "coolest" post(maybe i should put an irrelevent youtube video here)
In conclusion biggest e-pennis winsb:cute

This.

+ Infamous=Dark and bannings should probably be considered for those violating this TW rule if it continues into next season:

Leaders may not have alternate factions or be members of competing factions

Players in any kind of leadership capacity (Leader, Director, Marshall, or Executor) of a faction that participates in Territory Wars cannot have alternate factions that participate in Territory Wars on the same server. If you are in a leadership position of a faction, you cannot be a member of another faction that participates in Territory Wars on the same server.

Factions that cannot abide by these rules or that of fair play should not bid as anything that constitutes fake bidding will have severe repercussions. Any user caught withholding information about possible Territory War violations will be punished along with the perpetrators. All bids will be thoroughly screened and researched by the GMs. Any behavior determined to be suspicious will require additional research were temporary bans maybe issued. Upon confirmation of the crime the faction leaders as well as the members involved will be banned at the discretion of the GM.

So based on Sweetibot's confirmation that Infamous=Dark I expect one or the other won't be bidding next season, or a **** ton of alts will be leaving said factions.

I also expect CrimsonJR will no longer be bidding as this thread here

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1005562

shows ShortKnife is leader of

Guild Name: CrimsonJr
Leader: Longknife
Director: Eoria
Forums: http://crimsonjr.omgforum.net/
Recruitment: Anyone
Info: For anyone who doesn't give a f.uck or has an alt, put it in here. We r king.

Based on the rule listed above ShortKnife and Eoria should already be enjoying bannings but that's the past now isn't it? No reports no foul I guess. b:laugh And there already has been some reorganization of leaderships hasn't there? Also Bella is not the only person with an all seeing eye either. b:bye

But boy, if you really explore this rule, and consider the flooding of reports that could follow next season from ambitious factions or disgruntled ones depending on the psychology involved, there may need to be some careful bidding ahead!

What a fun season is on the horizon wouldn't you say!

Sint - Harshlands wrote: »

This would get me banned for being in Oblivion if they ever TW. It would have gotten me banned for being in CrimsonJr when they attacked Kylin, ffs. If this rule were enforced the way it was written, half the server would be banned for bids nobody could reasonably call fake. Most of WASP would be banned for bidding when Mayhem TWs, Crimson would get banned for TWing while Insanity does, Deicide contains, iirc, several Infamous alts. There are some inactive Infamous alts in Kylin, a lot of Kylin players have or used to have an alt in CrimsonJr and so on and so forth. It would be different if someone were to be, say, Kylin leader and Infamous director since you could then have the same guy bidding for two factions, but that's not likely to happen, and even if it did, that guy most likely wouldn't bid on his own lands, because no showing/throwing a war is not a popular idea. You can't really QQ about fake bidding if both wars are attended and fought.



Do i detect a faint trace of butthurt here?

Get with the times dude. WASP leader WAS just banned due to Dark reporting them and the rule WAS enforced. Your out of your element. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYJ7zZ9BRw

ArmaniEx - Harshlands wrote: »

Why is nobody in dark banned? I guess my financial aid is paying gm salary so we be immune to ban hammer. GL getting ppl banned for having alts in multiple TW guilds, I guess PWI will have to ban 90% of the server to pull that off.

Nobody in dark is banned because nobody was as lame as dark to submit a ticket over it. Course next season I expect things may be different.

All you guys talk about going to school yet none of you seem to have any comprehension skills whatsoever.

Let's see I ran into Zolor and his fail squad last NW.

I remember my squad won the battle, he tried to kill me and failed, then I ended up killing him, then he finally ran from a 3rd fight.

You can have him.

Dot your i's and cross your t's. =P

LW

I dont get why ppl care about this really its just a game




Have a nice rainbow flower ppl b:flowerb:flowerb:flower

SweetieBot, please give os_bm a new field of b:flowerb:flowerb:flower.

I'm a wild card. There's just no telling what I might do. b:sin

Anarchy rules.

Wampirewoman - Harshlands wrote: »

b:cry Wth u wanna say Infamous is not a family? Dendra u broke my heart ....thought we are brothers and Jekel just told me few weeks ago that he's my daddy .
**** this . " rage quit "

Not what I said :P

I said you need to create competitive faction first and that through competing together you will create a happy family.

If you create a family and hope to compete - you'll just live in misery and lose forever. The only way family factions work is if already experienced players+friends create one, but even then they wouldn't accept anybody into their family circle until they've proven themselves, so again you go back to basics, competition first, family later.

phaeton427 wrote: »

This.

+ Infamous=Dark and bannings should probably be considered for those violating this TW rule if it continues into next season:

Leaders may not have alternate factions or be members of competing factions

Players in any kind of leadership capacity (Leader, Director, Marshall, or Executor) of a faction that participates in Territory Wars cannot have alternate factions that participate in Territory Wars on the same server. If you are in a leadership position of a faction, you cannot be a member of another faction that participates in Territory Wars on the same server.

Factions that cannot abide by these rules or that of fair play should not bid as anything that constitutes fake bidding will have severe repercussions. Any user caught withholding information about possible Territory War violations will be punished along with the perpetrators. All bids will be thoroughly screened and researched by the GMs. Any behavior determined to be suspicious will require additional research were temporary bans maybe issued. Upon confirmation of the crime the faction leaders as well as the members involved will be banned at the discretion of the GM.

So based on Sweetibot's confirmation that Infamous=Dark I expect one or the other won't be bidding next season, or a **** ton of alts will be leaving said factions.

I also expect CrimsonJR will no longer be bidding as this thread here

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1005562

shows ShortKnife is leader of

Guild Name: CrimsonJr
Leader: Longknife
Director: Eoria
Forums: http://crimsonjr.omgforum.net/
Recruitment: Anyone
Info: For anyone who doesn't give a f.uck or has an alt, put it in here. We r king.

Based on the rule listed above ShortKnife and Eoria should already be enjoying bannings but that's the past now isn't it? No reports no foul I guess. b:laugh And there already has been some reorganization of leaderships hasn't there? Also Bella is not the only person with an all seeing eye either. b:bye

But boy, if you really explore this rule, and consider the flooding of reports that could follow next season from ambitious factions or disgruntled ones depending on the psychology involved, there may need to be some careful bidding ahead!

What a fun season is on the horizon wouldn't you say!

"Hi I'm LivingWater. I claim I don't care about TW and only care about the amazing power of friendship Mayhem has going for it, then I simultaneously go fishing through the rules for an excuse to get the defense leader of the faction my faction most often fights banned. Instead of getting him banned for hacking our TWs or something, I'm getting him banned for something that has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to me or my faction, and I fail to see any problem with this whatsoever, or how it might imply that I've developed a hateful grudge towards someone in a video game or that I really am that butthurt about my guild sucking and I'm completely in denial about it."


Y'know lately I look at this game and I'm just kinda disgusted by it. Like the majority of what keeps our game going is just people somehow trying to prove themselves to be god damned amazing, having egos that they clearly don't deserve. And no, no one will admit to it, and they'll claim that it's the OTHER guys that have egos, but pretty much all sides have giant egos pushing their desire to even play this game.
This might not be so bad, if it weren't for cases like this. Cases where it's blatantly obvious that our community is living in denial; where ALL the evidence they need to realize they or their guild sucks at this game is blatantly staring them in the face, but instead, they're not objective enough to focus on that one point and gladly jump to another topic.

"Hey Mayhem, you spent all season getting your ***** handed to you by a guild that literally just started this season despite your 3 years of experience and superior numbers."

"Oh yeah well your defense leader has an alt guild that might break rules!11"

Those two things have ****-all to do with one another. Literally nothing. Whether I have an alt guild or not, whether CJr participates in TW or not and whether it's against the rules or not has absolutely nothing to do with Dark beating Mayhem. Dark would beat Mayhem on a boat, Dark would beat Mayhem with a goat. Dark would beat Mayhem on a train, Dark would beat Mayhem in the rain.

And you literally lose all credibility when you claim you don't care about TW, and then lo and behold you've got some campaign to get me banned for CJr.

Has CJr led to your losses? No.
Has CJr led to anyone's losses? No.
Have I ever abused CJr to bid on a guild that my main guild was currently fighting? No.

Reporting me for CJr is about as petty as when Nurfed used to get reported for his oversized ****; yes, because Zulu's enemies were TOTALLY concerned that those **** were a sign he was a 1337 hacker that would ruin the community, and not because getting Nurfed banned might help them snake a win OR that they were so petty they'd developed a hate of someone they only know from a game.



I swear, some days the exact reason I play this game is because of people like you, LivingWater. Because there are people within the community who I believe desperately need a wakeup call. Call it a pet-peeve I guess, but I don't like liars, whether they lie to others or lie to themselves. Nor do I like egos (as with every person).

And y'know, I get that the majority of the community probably thinks I'm the one with the ego, since I'm so outspoken about how I think people **** up (though mind you, I only do so within the context of the game; I don't go judging any of you or claiming to know all about your personal lives or whatever).

But lately? Lately I have to say, when I make an argument such as "Mayhem sucks because A, B, and C" and the response is "Oh yeah well Longknife drowns puppies as a hobby!!" To me? Is that not the sign of someone completely in denial, too afraid to admit their flaws or points where they were wrong, lest it bruise their ego?

I'm just so sick of the ad hominem attacks. I'm not claiming to know it all, nor to be perfect (far from it); FFS could someone PLEASE name one argument where I've even complimented myself or even involved myself instead of just directly attacking the person/guild I was attacking and listing reasons why I was attacking them? I'm sure the sole example that will come up will be Adalsigo saying I claimed to be "the greatest Psy ever" when all I did was link him to the fact that I have the second highest kill count amongst all Psys, and thus his insult of "semi-amateur" is nothing short of delusional, because if I'm semi-amateur, then apparently every Psy cept for one guy is. I didn't bring it up, Adal did. My compliment was "I have experience," not "I'm the best **** ever." If that's not reasonable? Then wtf **** me, you people are impossible.




At this point, I dunno what to say to you. I'm always talking about how ridiculous it is for Mayhem to try the same thing over and over without ever trying something new, and I'm reaching a point where I think I'd be ridiculous to be hopeful that you guys are worth wasting my breath on, because obviously you're not listening to a damned word I'm saying; you only know I'm not showering you with compliments and that makes me the evil bad guy.


The only way I know to respond to you is to offer a bet. I'd be willing to bet real money that, come next season, if I were to bid with CJr while being in Dark, I would not be banned for fake-bidding. I say this not only because I have full confidence in my stance on the fake-bidding rules, but also because I recently ticketed myself when you and Crimson wouldn't stop spouting empty threats and speculating if you could get SinsSoul/Longknife/Jekel/Eoria/Basically everyone banned for fake-bidding because we own alts. GUESS WUT HAPPENED!!1!!1! OMG I'M STILL HERE AREN'T I??!!

Think I'm lying? Ok, let's bet real money on if CJr gets canned or not. Want to? I'd love to, I need the money.

Dammit Longknife always writing long posts. Reading that gave me a headache. Stop pissing off burnout