Sanctuary's TW State, Do what Heavens Tear did

in other words, LG is begging vindi to stop trash talking them after we stomp their faces in TW cuz their members dont even want to show up to TW anymore

Chikers - Sanctuary wrote: »

The attack Kakumau made on our alt faction was a threat to double attack us with Vindicate, whether it was coordinated or not doesn't matter it was the simple fact that they for some reason wanted to relocate... Which if they really wanted to they should have asked rather than attack at a primary time to try to keep us off of Vindicate.

didnt know people needed permission to attack YOUR alt faction LOL

uh oh, i finally understand why we are bad boys of the server now. we didnt ask for permission to attack lg. my dearest apologies ^_____________^ may we continue attacking?

Rfskkirby - Sanctuary wrote: »

in other words, LG is begging vindi to stop trash talking them after we stomp their faces in TW cuz their members dont even want to show up to TW anymore

I was just asking, but point proven I hope this helps prove the true faces for all the people that don't experience this in first person. Thanks for replying kirby.

The attack Kakumau made on our alt faction was a threat to double attack us(our main faction) with Vindicate, whether it was coordinated or not doesn't matter it was the simple fact that they for some reason wanted to relocate... Which if they really wanted to they should have asked rather than attack at a primary time to try to keep us off of Vindicate.

Hope that clears it up for you, kirby.

didnt know people needed permission to attack YOUR alt faction LOL

Hmmm alt factions tend to have the same people as the main, therefore taking people to defend the alt faction adheres the main faction, no?

Anyway yeah I don't think that replying anymore to this will be productive I have too much school work to worry about so have fun building up your ego kirby and attacking someone who has always been neutral to the "vindicate is full of jerks" mentality. I even have some of the utmost respect for some people in Vindicate. However a faction that let's their members run around and cause issues or who can't find anything more entertaining than making people feel like **** is no faction I would ever want to be a part of.

Hope this sheds some light on most of the Legendary opinion that people tend to bash.

Chikers - Sanctuary wrote: »

. However a faction that let's their members run around and cause issues or who can't find anything more entertaining than making people feel like **** is no faction I would ever want to be a part of.

So, from your post I understand you did know what i was talking about.

I do agree with you on quite a few points.

Tell me then, how threatening and harassing someone over attacking your faction without 'asking' (did laugh at that one) is not trying to make another person feeling like worthless ****?

Note, this was not the first time LG did the same thing, is it trash talking aknowledged only if its in the world/common chat and private bullying/insults being completely fine.. now that is a tricky one.

Lets not go into how people from LG believe world bosses on sanc belongs to them, and will try to ks/pk you if they see you doing one.

Talking about Holy Cow syndrome.

But.. I am sorry, next time i wanna put a negative criticism against your faction, I will ask for a permission.

Since I failed to mention the main point I was trying to prove was simply this

1. I was merely explaining that since Kakumau did attack us with an intent to double attack that raised them on the threat bar to higher than if a random faction attacked us. Which is why we went after them so they did not have the opportunity to attack us again preventing from these future attacks. So the statement that you are saying is we shouldn't go our of our way to prevent double attacks against us? Well you're faction has done the same countless times. Even to the extent of fake bidding, but unfortunately that cannot be proved as it could have been anyone in the faction.

2. I do not dislike Kakumau for attacking us nor anyone apparently who tries to take our wbs, but I simply trying to prove the fact that if they intend to attack us with a serious approach then are we to not allowed to fight them back and then for a future proofing opportunity try to keep that from happening again?

So yes I did say "ask" not in the state that they have to ask permission to attack our lands... but If you intend to try and take something from us with a serious approach, again we will meet it at the same. If they asked for a friendly TW we would have considered it nothing more and just had as much fun as possible. If there is an intent to take land(money to keep the faction afloat) from us then we will do what we can to keep our faction alive. As would any faction if they had the ability.

As for the private messaging/ insulting it goes the same way.... wc is just the most obnoxious thing I could think of so I stated that. Everything else is included within that category, nitpicking what I don't say doesn't prove it isn't what I stated before.

Vindicate does defend double attacks but if they had the chance they would try to avoid them too if they weren't prepared. Right now they have such a huge number of (over powered) people it wouldn't even be a threat to double attack. So congrats to you guys I really am not being sarcastic but don't make it seem like the overall strategy of being in a defensive position isn't in mind for you guys as well. You just word it in a way that makes Legendary seem the bad guy because we happen to think through these things ahead of time. As I said, future proofing.

Chikers - Sanctuary wrote: »

Since I failed to mention the main point I was trying to prove was simply this

1. I was merely explaining that since Kakumau did attack us with an intent to double attack that raised them on the threat bar to higher than if a random faction attacked us. Which is why we went after them so they did not have the opportunity to attack us again preventing from these future attacks. So the statement that you are saying is we shouldn't go our of our way to prevent double attacks against us? Well you're faction has done the same countless times. Even to the extent of fake bidding, but unfortunately that cannot be proved as it could have been anyone in the faction.

2. I do not dislike Kakumau for attacking us nor anyone apparently who tries to take our wbs, but I simply trying to prove the fact that if they intend to attack us with a serious approach then are we to not allowed to fight them back and then for a future proofing opportunity try to keep that from happening again?

So yes I did say "ask" not in the state that they have to ask permission to attack our lands... but If you intend to try and take something from us with a serious approach, again we will meet it at the same. If they asked for a friendly TW we would have considered it nothing more and just had as much fun as possible. If there is an intent to take land(money to keep the faction afloat) from us then we will do what we can to keep our faction alive. As would any faction if they had the ability.

As for the private messaging/ insulting it goes the same way.... wc is just the most obnoxious thing I could think of so I stated that. Everything else is included within that category, nitpicking what I don't say doesn't prove it isn't what I stated before.

Vindicate does defend double attacks but if they had the chance they would try to avoid them too if they weren't prepared. Right now they have such a huge number of (over powered) people it wouldn't even be a threat to double attack. So congrats to you guys I really am not being sarcastic but don't make it seem like the overall strategy of being in a defensive position isn't in mind for you guys as well. You just word it in a way that makes Legendary seem the bad guy because we happen to think through these things ahead of time. As I said, future proofing.

1. Never thought that Kakumau just wanted to gain more land by simply attacking an alt faction who's been sitting there on the map for months out of greed? LG just "assumed" it was a strategic attempt to double gank their main faction in the future? That sounds like a poor excuse to protect their alt faction lands income. Afterall, BabyLG always had decent attendance and was able to defend/attack mid-sized factions from the likes of Kakumau back then. LG just can't handle the idea of another real opponent so they turned their main faction attention their way to get rid of them fast and send a message to anyone who attempts an attack on their "Baby". And omg fake bids... don't even go down that way with "who did it first" game or I'm gonna need a whole page.

2. Then again you assumed Kakumau had intentions towards your main faction. Having an alt faction on the map unchallenged for so long doesn't really sit well with everyone and eventually ppl will try to take them. When this happened LG went all ballistic on Kakumau and probably any other faction who would have dared to touch them, unless it was Regicide b:chuckle. I agree keeping a faction a float does cost money but that's something to be expected as a dominant TW faction . Trying to subsidize it merely on land money forever is like trying to block the sun with a finger.

You yourself just admitted what I think is the real reason for attacking Kakumau "If there is an intent to take land(money to keep the faction afloat) from us then we will do what we can to keep our faction alive." I also don't mind a little trashtalk, sometimes ppl take it too far and we ask them to keep it down but like kirby said, we're not here to babysit anyone. When LG was winning tws I saw plenty of trashtalk towards vindi both in common and wc and I either replied back to it with humor or just ignored it, can't be taking it seriously.

Also Vindicate has been dealing with double and even triple defenses since forever, we had to learn to work with it. Many times we had to no show the main tw so we could defend the others because of the lack of man power. But we have never skipped our main's faction offense TW to go overpower our alt's factions challenger, lol...

I respect you chickers you are a great BM and a nice person from what I hear from my LG friends. I hope this post doesn't make you feel offended in anyway. I'm just sharing what I think from my pov based on what you said / I've seen.

OoArCsTeRoO - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think you mis-understood my post. Cause yours don't make any sense if Quoting to my post. What I said was that most TWs over the past 15 odd months which I attended were mostly one sided, whether it be one sided in favour of Vindi or Leg it doesn't matter. One sided TW's arent fun. There were only a few which were close and exciting till the end.

And comeon what are you trying to prove? Vindi got 20-30 People where as the other top factions (Leg and Regi) have been constantly losing members, when vindi lost members they were getting hammered now leg and regi lost so many members they are getting hammered what is there to argue?

ah ok yeah i see what you mean now

And I assume you are r999+10/12 would you prefer a challenging TW or a 10min win/loss? That is why i think there should be a change either from PWI side or from Sanctuary's player base side to make it interesting, not like anything will happen but just saying b:chuckle

haha i wish.

LG just crying all day, Im the only thing keeping their faction from completely dying cuz they dont want to give me the satisfaction of breaking their faction

what other faction has land on their alts?

Rfskkirby - Sanctuary wrote: »

what other faction has land on their alts?

no1, so? does that make LG greedy?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31896749.jpg

I thought Enelysion still has some alt land but am too lazy to check.
TW is super serious and important.

Eyeofthtiger - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol you make no sense. As usual, out of fact

you honestly don't understand what roid said...? I think you know what he said but you're just playing stupid cause you have nothing to say.

CaSimy - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sweetiebot, can you please analyze this thread for me?

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Nuke_Cleric - Sanctuary wrote: »

And omg fake bids... don't even go down that way with "who did it first" game or I'm gonna need a whole page.

First fake bid on Sanctuary: By a faction that was controlled by Purina and Uktabi who were at the time member on Shockwave. They overbid Shockwave's bid which ended up to close to Nefarious, and shifted it over to where Legendary had bit. This was due to bad blood between Legendary and Purina/Uktabi, who stole the idea for actually defeating the PvE TW after theirs failed to a ridiculous degree while ignoring the actually good idea until the final 5 minutes of a previous TW.

True story. Shockwave fake bid'ed first.